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14 minutes ago, Arnuld said:

I liked SOYL as well. I think the guitar and drums on it were redone. HS is definitely better than scraped and Riad. I’d rank it about the same as IRS and a shade better than Shacklers. 

I would say it's better than IRS but not in the same league as Shacklers.

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(Verse 1)
All cautions made
Every chance was given
No efforts spared
To save what we had
All in good faith
I would not hesitate
To extend myself
And lend you my hand

(Chorus)
But you had to be cool
And do it your way
Had to be a fool
And throw it all away
Too hard school
And thought you were here to stay
If it were true
It wouldn't matter anyway

(Verse 2)
As tempers fade
And lies forgiven
No????
To break what we had
In its place
A storm lived in
And I thought you could be more of a man

(Chorus)
But you had to be cool
And do it your way
Had to be a fool
And throw it all away
Too hard school
And thought you were here to stay
If it were true
It wouldn't matter anyway

Solo

(Chorus 2x)
But you had to be cool
And do it your way
Had to be a fool
And throw it all away
To our school
And thought you were here to stay
If it were true
It wouldn't matter anyway

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4 minutes ago, djones1225 said:

(Verse 1)
All cautions made
Every chance was given
No efforts spared
To save what we had
All in good faith
I would not hesitate
To extend myself
And lend you my hand

(Chorus)
But you had to be cool
And do it your way
Had to be a fool
And throw it all away
Too hard school
And thought you were here to stay
If it were true
It wouldn't matter anyway

(Verse 2)
As tempers fade
And lies forgiven
No????
To break what we had
In its place
A storm lived in
And I thought you could be more of a man

(Chorus)
But you had to be cool
And do it your way
Had to be a fool
And throw it all away
Too hard school
And thought you were here to stay
If it were true
It wouldn't matter anyway

Solo

(Chorus 2x)
But you had to be cool
And do it your way
Had to be a fool
And throw it all away
To our school
And thought you were here to stay
If it were true
It wouldn't matter anyway

I reckon he says "play it cool" 

but you had to play it cool

had to do it your way

had to be a fool

had to throw it all away

to hard school

and you thought you were here to stay

if that was true it wouldn't matter anyway

Edited by megaguns1982
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3 hours ago, kever20 said:

I was thinking that, or late 80s early 90s Priest. Almost like Nightcrawler in a way.

Yeah I thought it had a Speed Parade vibe to it, & Nightcrawler turned into speed parade

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Axl, if you're reading this I want you to know that the verse and the chorus are superb! The song has potential to be a single even, if it's reworked a bit. Now it kinda falls flat with the guitar solo. It might be a placeholder solo though, I get that. But it wouldn't hurt to make the song a bit longer, add some new lyrics and keep the energy of the song going. This song would really benefit from a rawer and meaner guitar sound also. 

Now that you've talked to Slash and probably understand better why he left the band, this song could tell both sides of the story. The song could be about the confusion and what led to the breakup and how it's all medias fault in the end or what ever. :lol:

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9 minutes ago, SilverMachine said:

Keep reading people saying that this a rough mix. There’s panning, compression on everything and reverb and what sounds like early 00’s brick wall mastering.  Sounds pretty fleshed out to me. 

I agree for the most part, with Axls obsessiveness it's a reasonable suggestion that even the demos from that era are almost studio quality.

i remember reading in one of the bios (can't remember which) that the studio back in the late 90s was full of gear for pro tools etc. and slash or duff just said wtf. When it was only to start pre production and demo stuff.

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17 minutes ago, SilverMachine said:

Keep reading people saying that this a rough mix. There’s panning, compression on everything and reverb and what sounds like early 00’s brick wall mastering.  Sounds pretty fleshed out to me. 

Is panning and compression the standard though? Any type of mix would have that. And especially at that level, everything is done to give the artists the best sense of how its coming together. I will say that for a rough mix they did a great job with the drums! Sounds like plenty of work was done, but to my ears there was still quite the ways to go.

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All cautions made
Every chance was given
No effort spared
To save what we had
All in good faith
I would not hesitate
To extend myself
And lend you my hand


But you had to play it cool, had to do it your way
Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
Too hard school and you thought you were here to stay
If that were true it wouldn't matter anyway

As tempers fade
And lies forgiven
No cause embraced
Could break what we had
In its place
A storm is lived in
I would've thought you could be more of a man


But you  had to play it cool, had to do it your way
Had to play it cool had to throw it all away
Too hard school and you thought you were here to stay
If that were true it wouldn't matter anyway

...i know people were messing around with lyrics earlier

Edited by gnfnr2k
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Way too many words in the chorus. Other than that it's a likeable song to me.

This might just be a baseless opinion, but I kind of feel as though there are a bunch of talented selected musicians at work given a task to create this kind of music. And while they are good at what they do, is it really what they personally want? Hadn't had that feeling previously, but it crept up on me while listening to this multiple times. 

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