Rovim Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, King_Johnny said: Naa, surely it's about Matt Sorum. The song was written about Kirk Douglas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I like how Axl's vocals get increasingly rough and guttural throughout the duration of the song. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its Tino Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Clean, simple to-the-point rocker. About damn time! After all these years, we finally hear Jackie Chan/Checkmate! Unreal! What year was it when we first heard the name of this track? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 26 minutes ago, weaponsnflowers said: The song could be Axl self-reflecting and singing about himself throwing it all away or it could be about any of the band members that came and went. Wow, that might actually be a great guess. I fall into the camp that doesn't think every song is about Slash, so I don't think this one is. If nothing else, your take seems very interesting to me. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeeker Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Maybe it’s about Izzy and Axl didn’t put it out because they reconciled after he wrote it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldek Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Love it! On a side note, almost cost me an argument with my gf as she was using my laptop and I rushed to it to immediately download the thing off YT. She reasonably thought I was desperately trying to delete some homemade video of me that someone had just uploaded. After I explained the whole thing she was still legitimately confused but we managed to enjoy the song together, thankfully. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaanzer Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, lukepowell1988 said: The Intro feels a little un needed the song sounds unfinished to me Tighten up the song by cropping the intro and the pace killing bridge, let Slash or Bucket go berzerk at the end of the song, drop the synths + update the vocals and I believe frequent radio play is within reach. 👍 1 minute ago, baldek said: Love it! On a side note, almost cost me an argument with my gf as she was using my laptop and I rushed to it to immediately download the thing off YT. She reasonably thought I was desperately trying to delete some homemade video of me that someone had just uploaded. After I explained the whole thing she was still legitimately confused but we managed to enjoy the song together, thankfully. LOL, things only GNR fans have to explain to their significant others. 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASLayerAODsk Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 uh, did i just find 2 mins of 'the general' via another site? ...:O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandOla Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, ASLayerAODsk said: uh, did i just find 2 mins of 'the general' via another site? ...:O No you didn't. It's Evaders mix with some added mumbojumbo to it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASLayerAODsk Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) k, just making sure ..and now back to our regular scheduled program Edited August 25, 2019 by ASLayerAODsk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lies They Tell Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 None of the songs on CD are about Slash, but in this case... Well Slash is the best guess. All the lyrics fit. We know that Axl (from his point of view) did everything he could to make things work with Slash in other words he tried to lend him his hand. But from Axl's point of view Slash threw it all away and broke what they had. Adler is another good guess, but Slash seems way more likely simply because Slash's departure from the band was a much bigger thing. It seems almost weird that Axl would have written a song about Adler in the CD era. Slash seems more obvious. It's obviously not about Stephanie Seymor cause of the "I would've thought you could be more of a man" -part. Could this be about the media like Sorry is? Nope! I don't see how it could be. Could Axl be self-reflecting and singing about himself, how he threw it all away? I very much doubt that! Since when has Axl blamed himself for breaking up the band or breaking up the relationship with Stephanie Seymor? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASLayerAODsk Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Lies They Tell said: None of the songs on CD are about Slash, but in this case... Well Slash is the best guess. All the lyrics fit. We know that Axl (from his point of view) did everything he could to make things work with Slash in other words he tried to lend him his hand. But from Axl's point of view Slash threw it all away and broke what they had. Adler is another good guess, but Slash seems way more likely simply because Slash's departure from the band was a much bigger thing. It seems almost weird that Axl would have written a song about Adler in the CD era. Slash seems more obvious. It's obviously not about Stephanie Seymor cause of the "I would've thought you could be more of a man" -part. Could this be about the media like Sorry is? Nope! I don't see how it could be. Could Axl be self-reflecting and singing about himself, how he threw it all away? I very much doubt that! Since when has Axl blamed himself for breaking up the band or breaking up the relationship with Stephanie Seymor? I know at least 2 of these are wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 The Adler guess is another good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaponsnflowers Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Just now, Lies They Tell said: Could Axl be self-reflecting and singing about himself, how he threw it all away? I very much doubt that! Since when has Axl blamed himself for breaking up the band or breaking up the relationship with Stephanie Seymor? That is true, he is usually the "victim" in the songs. That line about "being a man" is the only thing that stops this from being about a woman. Unless of course it's something someone said to Axl, but in this context it's unlikely, since rarely does Axl write from the perspective of others when it comes to these relationship songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarpatch Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Lies They Tell said: None of the songs on CD are about Slash, but in this case... Well Slash is the best guess. All the lyrics fit. We know that Axl (from his point of view) did everything he could to make things work with Slash in other words he tried to lend him his hand. But from Axl's point of view Slash threw it all away and broke what they had. Adler is another good guess, but Slash seems way more likely simply because Slash's departure from the band was a much bigger thing. It seems almost weird that Axl would have written a song about Adler in the CD era. Slash seems more obvious. It's obviously not about Stephanie Seymor cause of the "I would've thought you could be more of a man" -part. Could this be about the media like Sorry is? Nope! I don't see how it could be. Could Axl be self-reflecting and singing about himself, how he threw it all away? I very much doubt that! Since when has Axl blamed himself for breaking up the band or breaking up the relationship with Stephanie Seymor? Could also be about Izzy. Could possibly be about all of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modano09 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Did Axl really care about Adler enough to be writing songs about him years later? Izzy, possibly. Slash, definitely. I'm going with the obvious guess - it's Slash. Axl had strong feelings about Slash leaving GNR, to say the least. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaponsnflowers Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Modano09 said: Did Axl really care about Adler enough to be writing songs about him years later? Izzy, possibly. Slash, definitely. I'm going with the obvious guess - it's Slash. Axl had strong feelings about Slash leaving GNR, to say the least. It could be about Buckethead if this song wasn't so old. Axl spared no effort with the chicken coops and all, gave this guy a hand and all, but the guy in the mask just threw it all away. So yeah, most likely Slash. That might be one reason why these songs stay locked up, specially now that they are back together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djones1225 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 If guns were to release it on a new album, they could just say it's about Izzy not joining them on the NITL tour. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edward Nygma Posted August 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2019 Maybe it's about one of Beta's pot roasts that didn't live up to potential on a typical Sunday evening. 1 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdinan Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Don't particularly care who or what the song is about. It would have been a top three cut on Chinese, and I actually have a mostly favorable opinion of the record. It embodies more of a GNR sound without a ton of overdubs, layers and effects. Kind of just cuts straight to the point like IRS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlSlashthebest Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I can't even imagine how it could be cool with Duff and Slash on it. Amazing song exept the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeeker Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Let me put it this way - if Slash had made amends with Axl prior to 2008, would we have ever heard “Sorry”? Doubtful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlfans Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 hey guys. let's break it down. paul plays the intro? robin does the middle? bucket does the outro? brain does the drums? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) Honestly I think the only Bucket is the lot little ascending break in between the outro chorus' Intro and Bridge leads and final outro are probably Robin imo Edited August 25, 2019 by ZoSoRose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djones1225 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 The arrangement needs a bit of work, the solo is decent but could be better. The part before the last chorus could be cut. Honestly just some knit picky shit from a pretty damn good song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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