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I think everyones forgetting that this a pretty rough mix that we weren't even supposed to hear in the first place... I think its pretty rad personally and glad to even be able to listen to it after all these years!

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My opinion on this song is just that, but for what it's worth😄

Verse and chorus are great, the rest is a bit forgettable. The intro does not do the rest of the song justice, and bridge/solo section is very strange. It's a weird mix of old school hard rocker, mixed with this current (at the time industrial). 

Cut the fat. keep the verse, chorus. Redo the vocal on the verse too. Let Slash get a hold of it and reshape it make a new intro etc, definitely a new solo too. The outro solo under Axls vocal is cool though!

 

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My take on the track is that in general it's pretty good. Although I do like the intro it does feel a bit out of place just starting the song like that, the first part of the solo is really place holder sounding but the rest I quite like. It does sound early to me when compared to everything else that has leaked. 

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2 minutes ago, Jw224 said:

My take on the track is that in general it's pretty good. Although I do like the intro it does feel a bit out of place just starting the song like that, the first part of the solo is really place holder sounding but the rest I quite like. It does sound early to me when compared to everything else that has leaked. 

I feel like the intro would have been a better fit on a song called "Tonto"

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I love the intro. I love how it builds into that familiar part from the original leak. It makes hearing that familiar part so damn exciting 

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Can't believe I finally heard this after 13 years.  Never thought I'd see the day.  Sure it's rough and not final, but I'll take it!

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The chorus is the best part of 'Hard School' and totally kicks ass, which is interesting because one of the bigger criticisms of ChiDem is that many of the songs have lots of cool parts but weak(ish) choruses. Which makes it even more confusing as to why it wasn't included on the album, being a rocker with a killer chorus. 

Agree with most that it definitely has that "work-in-progress" feel to it. I'm not crazy about the intro but they were onto something with the outro, I think with some work it could be an awesome outro, and who knows what they've done with it in the DECADES since it was recorded :)

Overall, really dig it. And ALWAYS enjoy hearing new songs from Axl. If only GNR were a band that actually released new music, I'll bet there's lots of cool stuff still locked in the vault.

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And I am also one of those who hates the fact that people inevitably say that EVERY. SINGLE. NEW. SONG. is about Slash. Prostitute is about GNR, and maybe Sorry and The Blues referred to Slash. But I will agree that these lyrics for Hard School do seem to be about him. 

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This song is “okay”. Other than Axl it is a shit but Axl sounds very cool in parts.  Not a huge fan of the parts where his voice sounds wimpy/emotional. The guitars were horrid 

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The song has potential, its clearly unfinished. I think it may be about Izzy.

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1 hour ago, Jw224 said:

My take on the track is that in general it's pretty good. Although I do like the intro it does feel a bit out of place just starting the song like that, the first part of the solo is really place holder sounding but the rest I quite like. It does sound early to me when compared to everything else that has leaked. 

I think I'd date this around the 'oh my god' timeline. Same drum sound, vocals. To me it sounds like Brain on drums too, the snare rolls etc. reminds of me of the rio gig.

 

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50 minutes ago, axlsalinger said:

And I am also one of those who hates the fact that people inevitably say that EVERY. SINGLE. NEW. SONG. is about Slash. Prostitute is about GNR, and maybe Sorry and The Blues referred to Slash. But I will agree that these lyrics for Hard School do seem to be about him. 

 Hard School is sooo about Slash, like I know quite a few CD songs have been said by fans it is about Slash where it may not be the case but I for sure think this song is:

 

"But you had to play it cool, had to do it your way
Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away"             

-   Those lines for sure are referring to what Axl called during the 06 Eddie Trunk thing as "Slash trying to take control of the band" and in Axl's eyes just be a difficult presence with maybe the Snakepit fiasco and Paul Huge, and eventually quitting GNR

"Too hard school" I interpret as Axl saying Slash was too busy living his "hard knock life" with the drug abuse and turbulent lifestyle in the 90's as opposed to doing what Axl thought was the best thing for GNR

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I saved all the leaks/snippets of Hardschool/checkmate and seemed to notice that the very first snippet that we had goes

"All efforts made,

Every chance was given

No efforts spared

To save what we had

[repeated 2x then it goes through without transition] [fade to end] "

 

The full song leak we had goes

"All efforts made,

Every chance was given

No efforts spared

To save what we had,

[did not repeat, went to a different lyrics]

All in good faith

I did not hesitate

To extend myself

and lend you my hand

[and it transitions to the verse which we first heard in the 2nd leak/snippet]"

 

Anyone got info on this? or was the first ever leak got looped

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5 minutes ago, jm9730011 said:

Anyone got info on this? or was the first ever leak got looped

To quote my reply in the thread you made with that question:  

The first leak from Razz got looped.  I always found it annoying lol but yeah with the original unaltered first leak you would hear the "all i-" before it cut off, which is the start of the "all in good faith" line

But on Youtube since that initial 16 second clip, fans ended up cutting of that start off the second stanza and looped the first to make it longer sounding

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1 minute ago, WhazUp said:

To quote my reply in the thread you made with that question:  

The first leak from Razz got looped.  I always found it annoying lol but yeah with the original unaltered first leak you would hear the "all i-" before it cut off, which is the start of the "all in good faith" line

But on Youtube since that initial 16 second clip, fans ended up cutting of that start off the second stanza and looped the first to make it longer sounding

thanks, time for me to delete that thread. I just to clarify this.

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im pretty sure this song is from the 99 tape, maybe even the source that razz got his clip from. 

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Axl really needs to change the way he sings “more of a man” here. He sounds like a retard the way he’s singing it.

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16 minutes ago, djones1225 said:

Well it's off YouTube, I wonder what Team Brazil did this weekend to miss that leak for so long.

Whatever it was, let’s hope they continue to do it so other leaks stay up as long as this did.

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