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20 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said:

Axl really needs to change the way he sings “more of a man” here. He sounds like a retard the way he’s singing it.

Upon listening to it a few more times, I realize I was mistaken. It’s not the way he’s singing it, but rather the way the vocals are mixed. The line gets “buried” under the chorus line that comes right after, if that makes sense. Playing around with the mixing levels might be enough for them to fix it.

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17 minutes ago, djones1225 said:

Well it's off YouTube, I wonder what Team Brazil did this weekend to miss that leak for so long.

They were busy working on promotional material for their new product. We’ve had a GN’R plane and GN’R trains. Be on the lookout for GN’R bikes coming soon! 

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1 hour ago, djones1225 said:

Well it's off YouTube, I wonder what Team Brazil did this weekend to miss that leak for so long.

Had a similar thought. Looks like leaking stuff on a weekend or near a holiday (a lot of people in the US take the last week of August off) is a good strategy!

 

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“No efforts made to save what we had.”

Come on guys, he’s obviously talking about 976-Horns. 

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On 24/08/2019 at 1:44 PM, MildlyArtistic said:

We live in a universe where Scraped, If The World, and Riad N' The Bedoins made it onto Chinese Democracy instead of this song.

 

What the fuck was Axl thinking?

You're kidding! Scraped And Riad are amazing songs, If the World is indeed a joke.

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28 minutes ago, jamillos said:

Maybe it was one of the big guns for CD II. 

I don't know that it was a "big gun" but it was surely intended for release.  People keep ignoring/not believing there was really a CD 2 planned.  I think a song like this goes a long way toward proving there was supposed to be a CD2.  This wasn't a song that simply "didn't make the cut" or some shit.  It's an awesome track.

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44 minutes ago, DeadSlash said:

I don't know that it was a "big gun" but it was surely intended for release.  People keep ignoring/not believing there was really a CD 2 planned.  I think a song like this goes a long way toward proving there was supposed to be a CD2.  This wasn't a song that simply "didn't make the cut" or some shit.  It's an awesome track.

I agree. And considering this is just a god knows how many years old demo, it easily could have been a big gun with perhaps some modifications. 
Also, while Sorry may have been inspired by Slash, it cannot be deemed strictly about him, since some lines would not make much sense then ("difference is nobody cares about you") – but this Hard School song, it could definitely be completely about him; in fact, I’m almost sure it is. It wouldn’t fit the Izzy situation too much, and the rest is out of the question. 

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16 minutes ago, Mangler said:

I think it's a fucking banger! Is the version we may have from a popular video hosting site the best quality version that leaked?

Merck said it was't even in the top 15 or something. I don't think it's a big gun.

Did he? Maybe top 15 for CD 1? Or his own top 15? Anyway, it would have been a killer on CD 2. 

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Always saw lots of potential in the clip and the recent extended one but the song as a whole is a little predictable given Axl’s ambitions at the time. Same with the (it sounds like it’s about Slash) lyrics for that era, and I don’t honestly think it’s more worthy than anything on CD. It could be interchangeable with Scraped or Riad but that’s to call it filler.

I still see potential but if the lyrics didn’t need a complete rewrite before, they do now. There’s no doubt that this is the kind of song Slash could work with and improve.

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I still think people over estimate things when it’s Axl/Guns. 

If it was a Slash solo song I think the reaction would be very different. 

We’d be criticizing it as uninspired/generic guitar playing, mediocre solo, unnecessarily long intro. 

 

 

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30 minutes ago, jacdaniel said:

I still think people over estimate things when it’s Axl/Guns. 

If it was a Slash solo song I think the reaction would be very different. 

We’d be criticizing it as uninspired/generic guitar playing, mediocre solo, unnecessarily long intro. 

 

 

That's what happens when you have one artist who puts out 15 songs every 3 years and another who has put out 15 songs in 25 years. The one who is productive gets taken for granted and the one who isn't gets the mystique factor.

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26 minutes ago, jacdaniel said:

We’d be criticizing it as uninspired/generic guitar playing, mediocre solo, unnecessarily long intro. 

But that's exactly what people are doing with this song. People are criticizing the mediocre solo and the intro etc... Few people love the solo, but it's the chorus and the verses that people love.

The reason why people aren't bashing the solo more is cause it's a demo. An unfinishes song. People see it as a placeholder solo. The song has an enormous amount of potential because the chorus and the verses are so good though.

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33 minutes ago, jacdaniel said:

I still think people over estimate things when it’s Axl/Guns. 

If it was a Slash solo song I think the reaction would be very different. 

We’d be criticizing it as uninspired/generic guitar playing, mediocre solo, unnecessarily long intro. 

 

 

I don't agree. I think most people have said it needed some work, many people have said they don't like the guitar. And then you have people who hate it, maybe because it doesn't have Slash, and other people who absolutely love it.

1 minute ago, Towelie said:

That's what happens when you have one artist who puts out 15 songs every 3 years and another who has put out 15 songs in 25 years. The one who is productive gets taken for granted and the one who isn't gets the mystique factor.

I don't think Slash's work is taken for granted, but of course it's a bit less of an event than when it's an Axl song :lol:

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I love how people seem to expect a song from a CD called "Rough Mixes #3" to sound fully mixed, mastered and EQ'd. Of course it isn't, this was never intended for release.

I still love the song, better than a lot of songs on Chinese imo. I do however realize that it's not finished yet, both songwriting and production wise.

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3 hours ago, TheGeneral said:

I haven't heard it, couldn't find it anywhere.

But if the song is as good as the snippet, leak or not, I hope it gets an official release one day. Hearing an "approved" version always feels better than just listening to leaks.

For me the chorus is better than the snippet that we've heard for so long. Love the song, I didn't imagine nothing like that, I imagined that the rest of the song was slower, but I was totally wrong.

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I think Hard school is a bit of a let down after hearing the 22 second clip a few weeks back. It’s still a decent song and I guess at the end of the day it’s not a finished song but for me it would be a good song for Slash to rework and add his tone and lead to the song then it would sound more like a GNR song. 

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7 hours ago, djones1225 said:

Well it's off YouTube, I wonder what Team Brazil did this weekend to miss that leak for so long.

Fernando's been busy with porn sites, hasn't he? Can't blame him for missing this.

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Since Merck said in 2006 that this song is NOT GnR links and uploads should be allowed ;)

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3 hours ago, Mangler said:

I think it's a fucking banger! Is the version we may have from a popular video hosting site the best quality version that leaked?

Merck said it was't even in the top 15 or something. I don't think it's a big gun.

It was IRS that he said wasn't in the top 10 at which point he was referring to all the songs, not just the Chinese tracklist we got. 

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