2018 CD Leaks Discussion Thread **NO LINKS, NO ASKING / HINTING FOR LEAKS**

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said:

Didn’t Brain say tho that he and his friend came up with the title The General as soon as they wrote the music which Axl later added lyrics too? Maybe Axl changed it to Devious Bastard and then realized it was a stupid name and changed it back to The General.

Who knows but in that interview above it's pretty clear that at that time The General or whatever it may have been labelled as was supposed to be on CD not any follow up album.

seems possible its amongst those discs somewhere

[Pskihq92]

2 hours ago, Powerage5 said:

I believe when Brian confirmed it was him on Catcher he mentioned Atlas as a song he laid a solo down for. During the forum chats in 2008, Axl said he was unsure Brian would appear on the final version of the song. And now hearing the track, the end of the solo with the overlaid guitars is 100% him. The rest of the solo, I’m not so sure is Brian. 

The entire solo is definitely 100% Brian May. Fink couldn't play like that. Listen to some Queen. May playing like Slash?

[h2sublime]

40 minutes ago, Pskihq92 said:

The entire solo is definitely 100% Brian May. Fink couldn't play like that. Listen to some Queen. May playing like Slash?

Seriously I knew it was Brian May before I read it was Brian May. lol

[Pskihq92]

9 minutes ago, h2sublime said:

Seriously I knew it was Brian May before I read it was Brian May. lol

[Voodoochild]

5 hours ago, zombux said:

no, my question was how do we know for sure that May is playing at Perhaps (and also at Atlas)?

 

5 hours ago, Finck2006 said:

Atlas has his signature at the end of the solo.

It's 100% Brian May. The beginning and throughout the first half, he uses an octave pedal (which doubles his notes with a lower guitar tone). Then the lick with the stereo guitar also using an octave pedal (this time, with higher guitar tone) kicks in. And I believe the outro has also some Brian May licks complementing Axl's vocals.

 

4 hours ago, Powerage5 said:

I believe when Brian confirmed it was him on Catcher he mentioned Atlas as a song he laid a solo down for. During the forum chats in 2008, Axl said he was unsure Brian would appear on the final version of the song. 

Indeed he did. Would be cool if May confirms again that it's his work on it.

[Pskihq92]

20 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

 

It's 100% Brian May. The beginning and throughout the first half, he uses an octave pedal (which doubles his notes with a lower guitar tone). Then the lick with the stereo guitar also using an octave pedal (this time, with higher guitar tone) kicks in. And I believe the outro has also some Brian May licks complementing Axl's vocals.

 

Indeed he did. Would be cool if May confirms again that it's his work on it.

I definitely hear Brian's licks at the end too 

[jimisbatman]

30 minutes ago, Pskihq92 said:

I definitely hear Brian's licks at the end too 

#metoo 

[TheSeeker]

There's a version of Atlas with Audacity-removed vocals floating around

Who's going to the brave soul and sing it at a karaoke bar (and film the reaction)?

Come on you pussies

Edited September 12, 2019 by TheSeeker

[Live Like a Suicide]

I honestly hope GNR plays Atlas live in the upcoming tour. It's very likely a song that Slash and Duff have contributed to, and it's one Axl would easily be able to nail.

[Gaanzer]

On 31-8-2019 at 8:49 AM, Fried chicken said:

shit not as bad as the phil collins forum then

Oh Lord. 

On a side note. The only CD song I  really want to hear without it being re-recorded is The General. That cellphone clip was rough as hell, but Bucket's guitar work...omg!

 

Edited September 12, 2019 by Gaanzer

[default_]

Years have passed and I still dont know how people could make anything from that shitty cellphone recording lol its so fuckin unlistenable. 

[papashaun]

Just gonna put his out here...I've had the chance to listen to the Atlas Shrugged and Hard School leaks several times now....and I must be missing something. I'm just not feeling either track. I don't think either song was intended to be released on an album, but more or less didn't make the cut, and was kept in "storage."  I look at it like this, if another band or artist made both songs, that's not GnR or Axl, would either garner multiple listens, or be placed on regular rotation? Just from what I heard though, I see why each was kept off the final CD album cut.

[Gackt]

5 hours ago, default_ said:

Years have passed and I still dont know how people could make anything from that shitty cellphone recording lol its so fuckin unlistenable. 

I've probably listened to it enough times to dissect the bits and pieces that make it sound like it could be a Coma-tier epic placed at the start of ChiDem2, which is why I've wanted it more than anything else that could leak from the Chinese years; I don't think the modern band has anything they could add to the song, I'd want to hear it as it was originally recorded.

Atlas could easily get the Slash treatment, but Hard School has a lot of NuGNR elements that would be missing if it was re-recorded.  That outro has no less than three layers of guitars.  

[Blue Phoenix]

6 hours ago, Gaanzer said:

Oh Lord. 

On a side note. The only CD song I  really want to hear without it being re-recorded is The General. That cellphone clip was rough as hell, but Bucket's guitar work...omg!

 

One can dream!

[Finck2006]

Hate when people say I understand why it was not included.  Compare the recent leak of Twat with the one we got in 2006  and fyi Demo is

record (a song or piece of music) to demonstrate the capabilities of a musical group or performer or as preparation for a full recording.

 

 

 

[djtripp20]

The General cell phone clip is the most intriguing thing left out there for me. It sounds so friggin mean man.

[appetite4illusions]

2 hours ago, papashaun said:

Just gonna put his out here...I've had the chance to listen to the Atlas Shrugged and Hard School leaks several times now....and I must be missing something. I'm just not feeling either track. I don't think either song was intended to be released on an album, but more or less didn't make the cut, and was kept in "storage."  I look at it like this, if another band or artist made both songs, that's not GnR or Axl, would either garner multiple listens, or be placed on regular rotation? Just from what I heard though, I see why each was kept off the final CD album cut.

Dude, I am so with you.

I love GNR and I loved NuGNR and I used to sit in my apartment waiting for things to leak. They tended to, every couple years...

But hearing these two songs is a disappointment. They don’t rise beyond mediocre for me and I guess that makes sense, seeing as they didn’t make the one album Axl released.

I guess it puts in perspective how much I hyped this up to myself over a period of a decade. But interesting to hear.

[Amir]

I didn't and still don't care for the demos of TWAT and Prostitute, but I love the final album versions. I won't pass final judgement on Atlas and Hard School just yet.

[TheSeeker]

13 minutes ago, djtripp20 said:

The General cell phone clip is the most intriguing thing left out there for me. It sounds so friggin mean man.

Yeah it's weird that Axl was still openly teasing a second album in 2010, but then a year later his voice was gone and he started the never-ending Greatest Hits tour

The Azoff lawsuit killed his drive in 2011, and by 2014 he was ready to cash in on a reunion since he was just going through the motions anyway

[BangoSkank]

I'm surprised how much I love "Hard School". I was always not too impressed by the clips that were out there, but this song is fucking killer, easily my favorite of the new leaks (which is crazy because I've been so curious about "Atlas Shrugged" forever).

Edited September 12, 2019 by BangoSkank
Grammatical mistake

[Gunsdrummer63]

I just heard the 2 "going down" leaks. Whos on guitar and drums? I know Stinson is on vocals

[zombux]

6 minutes ago, Gunsdrummer63 said:

I just heard the 2 "going down" leaks. Whos on guitar and drums? I know Stinson is on vocals

besides the left channel Bumblefoot guitar, the acoustic demo was mixed in April 2001 (it's on one of those discs including Tommy and Robin Finck demos), while the right channel of the other demo is impossible to date, but it's thought to be something between like late 2000 to who knows when.

which basically means that those have most probably Brain on drums (less likely Josh Freese), and Paul Huge and Robin Finck on guitars (but doesn't seem like Buckethead was involved). of course, this is just a guess, we have zero information about those.

[bdinan]

I don't think Melissa has the chops to play Silkworms, so they definitely need to bring in special guest MOTHER GOOSE to rock that one.

 

[Blackstar]

23 hours ago, Azifwekare said:

I always remember an article I read years back mentioning an untitled (as in the title wasn't mentioned) 3rd Brian May track, but I can't think of where I saw it, it's been driving me nuts. I think it may have been a Zutaut interview or something. @Blackstar, @SoulMonster, could you help me out?

There is this interview Brian May did in May 2000, where he said he had played on three songs:

https://brianmay.com/brian/radio/radioone10may00/radioone10may00.html

Brian May: [...] [Axl] said: "Brian, can you come and do stuff which I WILL LIKE, (laughing) and I won't feel too bad about ditching this other stuff?" So I did, I went over there, and I think I played on three tracks, um and messed around on various other things, but it worked out pretty well as far as I can tell. 

He also said that there was a full album with vocals at the time he did the sessions (late 1999):

 MAH: ... There are many many people, who've spoken to journalists, who've have played with Axl over a number of years now, who have laid claims recently that the only one track that Axl has ever laid down a vocal part for is "Oh My God", which is obviously featured on the Schwartzenager film, "End Of Days", but you're saying there are more vocal parts then?

Brian May: Oh yeah - there's a whole album of vocal parts - in fact there's two albums' worth that they've got there, at least. Um, they played me EVERYTHING. Axl actually sat down and MADE ME listen to everything (laughing) and there's some wonderful stuff there. Yeah.

MAH: How do you deal with somebody like Axl though, when he sits you down and says: "Listen to all of this." I mean, can you really critique him and sit there and say: "Do you know what, Axl, that's rubbish mate. You wanna bin that one!!"?

Brian May: Well (sigh) Axl sort of holds Queen and, and our whole thing in a great deal of respect so I always figure as long as I tell my truth, he's fine - and, and its always held out so far. He's always been very good, you know, to me. He will tell you if he doesn't agree what, with what you say. I mean, I went in and immediately, you know, Brian May opens his mouth and "Blab, blab, blab" - and I told exactly what I thought of, of the stuff as it was and some of it he went "Yeah", and some of it he went "I couldn't do that" - you know like some of the suggestions you know and that's it, and Axl's a very emotionally kind of 'connected' person, I mean, to the point where he, he's so intense about EVERY single note that's on there, and the solos that I played, um, he was totally into it VERY much in the way that Freddie used to be. You know, Freddie used to go through my solos and, and say "You know there's this particular note here and I think if you did this and this and this", you know and I thought I would just go in there... I'd forgotten, you know, what Axl was like, and I thought I would just go in there and he'd like it. He did like it, but he wanted to get into EVERY single take of every single note, and sort of string, you know ... I would go in there and he, from, from one day to another, Axl would have been in there like from 5 o'clock in the morning to 7 o'clock in the morning, comping little bits of my solos and saying "Can you get Brian to try this?" You know, he's UTTERLY meticulous.

There is also this excerpt from a  2007 Classic Rock article, where it was mentioned that Atlas was one of the songs Brian May played on:

In addition to these leaked tracks, Classic Rock has heard versions of Rhiad And The Bedouins, Prostitute, Atlas Shrugged (another track featuring the signature guitar of Brian May) and Silkworms. [Classic Rock, July 2007]

[Voodoochild]

2 hours ago, Finck2006 said:

Hate when people say I understand why it was not included.  Compare the recent leak of Twat with the one we got in 2006  and fyi Demo is

record (a song or piece of music) to demonstrate the capabilities of a musical group or performer or as preparation for a full recording.

Yep. The difference is that they already recorded the demos layers to be ready to use in the final product. In a normal band, this is really good to mantain the original intention and feeling of the performance. With GNR tho, it's kinda like they were throwing around ideas and hoping something stick and survive the editing and mixing process.

1 hour ago, zombux said:

besides the left channel Bumblefoot guitar, the acoustic demo was mixed in April 2001 (it's on one of those discs including Tommy and Robin Finck demos), while the right channel of the other demo is impossible to date, but it's thought to be something between like late 2000 to who knows when.

which basically means that those have most probably Brain on drums (less likely Josh Freese), and Paul Huge and Robin Finck on guitars (but doesn't seem like Buckethead was involved). of course, this is just a guess, we have zero information about those.

I believe the accoustic demo could be all Tommy, including guitars and drums (are they even real drums or just some programmed drum machine?).