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"There's been some concern... that if we play five or six new songs, then there can't be that many more on the album. Au contraire, mon frère. We're just playing the songs we're not considering putting out as singles or anything. So, you'll get 18 songs, and about 10 extra tracks. And when that... when the record company feels that has run its course, then you'll get it all over again. By that time, I should be done with the third album. So we'll see if all goes well, boys and girls."

 

Axl, 26th August 2002

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1 minute ago, Arnuld said:

When your “base” (who are the only ppl listening) are freaking out about how badass your demos from 20 years ago are I would think it would make you somewhat happy? GNR please take my money. I’m happy to buy expensive concert tickets, new music (in every format available), cool art work, books, concert blu ray compilations (think HOB 01, Saskatoon, NITL troubadour) ect....Not 1000$ box sets of 30 year old songs, toy trucks, laundry bags. You are the most badass band of all time. Put out badass content and we will buy the fuck out of it!!!!! 

we aint 'the base'. and even 'we, the nerds' dislike things about the leaks.

just play 'perhaps' to your friends or in bar, etc and people will say 'can you skip the track / change the radio station, please?'. These leaks are no 'hit material' at all. and the masses won't like it. 

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I try and look at things in life from an objective/subjective approach.  Hard to take shots at TB.  They could be genuinely nice people and just have a position within the band to help in some form obviously.  I am aware of their actual positions, but it obviously goes deeper.  I look at it from perspective of, TB and others we think might probably don't have the control many/we think.  Ultimately the band, their attorney's, their publicists, their label, marketing, and conglomerates that own the labels, and who knows who else have control.  I think we didn't hear this stuff all of these years because as Axl once said "how do you take something that was once so big and re-create with an entirely new group of people." It's a big risk when you are the sole survivor regardless of who is at fault, you add in a label and several managers who envision things certain ways that they would like things to be and it becomes a clusterfuck.  We all agree we love the band pretty much in all forms.  I defended the band to friends all of the time since I was 13 years old that "CD" was coming, over and over, buying metal edge and reading the metal wire, spin, rolling stone magazine just to catch a glimpse of news.  We went from hearing all about the band was doing in the early 90's to absolutely nothing.  That is what sucks.  That is the slap in the face to me.    They don't have to do individual interviews if they don't want to.  I could understand them not wanting to do that much so words aren't twisted.  What would be best is have a random fan or person from here even ask them the hard questions about releasing new/old music.  Or they could do a youtube livestream of only axl/slash/duff having that discussion with nobody interview them.  Just them and the world.  They would be in control.  Bottom line they technically don't have to do anything and they will still make millions.  They could re-release all of these leaks in complete polished form and we would all buy them as we all did with Chinese.  They do owe it to their fans to give more explanations and more information regarding such things.  The mystique is old an annoying.  Fans make anyone in a media spotlight.  I've played music for years myself and had mediocre success throughout my own life and some of those people still follow my music to this day, albeit very few. This band doesn't have to worry about.  I understand the artistic integrity portion whole-heartedly too, but there comes a point where you have to let go or time passes you buy and we all end up forgotten or a was or has been.

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1 minute ago, Creed said:

we aint 'the base'. and even 'we, the nerds' dislike things about the leaks.

just play 'perhaps' to your friends or in bar, etc and people will say 'can you skip the track / change the radio station, please?'. These leaks are no 'hit material' at all. and the masses won't like it. 

Fuck the masses, the masses are morons

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6 minutes ago, TeeJay410 said:

If TB and Axl are reading I will pay money for a mixed and mastered official release of these five songs. They are good. We WANT TO GIVE YOU MONEY. Not for a toy truck or candles, for good music, which you have!

If they dropped a box set release for this and UYI I'd drop a couple of hundred on each easily

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45 minutes ago, Creed said:

the other rumor is Axl was finally informed about the leaks by TB and Universal.

He's flippin' yo'

Gimme dat TONTO.

The person you're getting this information is a joke.  

He's not an "insider."  

He's been wrong more times than right to the point where he's just playing a guessing game and seeing what sticks.  According to this "insider" GNR was suppose to be done a year or two ago and Axl was going to be touring and recording with AC/DC.  

When that didn't pan out he deleted his account at another forum, removed his posts, but now is somehow positioning himself as some sort of bonafide insider again.  

The guy is a sad and pathetic joke and not to be taken seriously.  

That said, I think anyone here with half a brain could put two and two together and guess that Axl ain't happy with what's transpired in the last four or five weeks.  As @RussTCB said, hopefully Axl sees how much joy it's bringing his fans but all things considered, it's not much of a wager to assume Axl ain't loving some of his life's work is spilling out onto the internet in a manner and form not of his choosing.  

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13 minutes ago, Creed said:

we aint 'the base'. and even 'we, the nerds' dislike things about the leaks.

just play 'perhaps' to your friends or in bar, etc and people will say 'can you skip the track / change the radio station, please?'. These leaks are no 'hit material' at all. and the masses won't like it. 

The masses don't like laundry bags or toy trucks either, or a L&L box. It's not about that. It's about getting your art out to your fans, which is ultimately what they all want. Axl said he hasn't worked on all this to keep it buried.

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So IDK if somebody messed with State Of Grace & Perhaps before the leaked or if it's intentional but the right channel on both songs is much quieter than the left, I noticed while i was trying to normalize volume levels on the leaks. I fixed both & they sound much better now.

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1 hour ago, RussTCB said:

If anything, I hope they're reading this and seeing all the positive reaction to these leaks. I also hope they're seeing how many people would love to pay GNR for this music. 

If anything I hope Axl reads this and sees all the positive reactions to these leaks. I hope he's seeing how many people would love to pay GnR for this music. I also hope it might convince him to use different platforms less dependent on labels and record companies to make this music available to his fans.

 

If anything I hope Team Brazil gets their sorry asses fired for being the worst parasitic leeches management team in music today. 

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1 hour ago, RussTCB said:

LOL, we can count on several hands the amount of rumors our "insiders" have provided in the past month that haven't panned out. 

Who really knows what's going on with TB, UMG and / or Axl. 

If anything, I hope they're reading this and seeing all the positive reaction to these leaks. I also hope they're seeing how many people would love to pay GNR for this music. 

BIG if (they are listening) but wouldn’t it make sense to most people that new music would be welcomed? All of the leak threads have been non stop posts. Doesn’t that show major interest for new music?

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Stoymatic said:

BIG if (they are listening) but wouldn’t it make sense to most people that new music would be welcomed? All of the leak threads have been non stop posts. Doesn’t that show major interest for new music?

 

 

I don’t think GNR has ever questioned whether there’s interest for new music or not.

The lack of releases have more to do with internal factors than concerns over fan interest. 

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UYI boxset (with Spaghetti outtakes).

Live Era 2000-2006

Live Era 2007-2014

CD boxset

Then new album, entirely from new material, after the previous chapters are closed.

note: Was tempted to only list one Live Era 2000-2014, but didn't want Bucket's input restricted!

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Just now, kever20 said:

Not CD, but related to the era: KOHD Acoustic 2001 just leaked. ✌

Well that's fn cool! 

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All I know is with all I have heard they are amazing stat of grace has me playing it on repeat! 

All they would have to do is take a few of these tracks slightly mix them a little better drop a simple EP maybe called the Village session and us fans would buy the shit out of it! 

Hell I know many would purchase multiple copies especially if it was 12 vinyl only!

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one thing I have always wondered (because I am fascinated by the business side of music as much as music itself) is I wonder if part of the problem with the releases has been song writing credits/rights.  I have always been curious what the "nuguns" contracts looked like.  Meaning, I wonder if they had to sign a waiver saying the songs written over time would be owned by band name and label/axl or if they would still get some sort of royalty and writing credit for their part.  So say for example The General gets released and was primarily written by tommy, josh, axl, bucket, robyn, pittman and it goes to 1 and makes a substantial amount of dollars.  Yet slash records over Robyn's lead, duff records a new baseline, Frank replaces drums etc, however the song more-less remains the same.  I wonder if those old members have any legal recourse or option of royalty being a writer of the song.

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1 hour ago, Creed said:

we aint 'the base'. and even 'we, the nerds' dislike things about the leaks.

just play 'perhaps' to your friends or in bar, etc and people will say 'can you skip the track / change the radio station, please?'. These leaks are no 'hit material' at all. and the masses won't like it. 

If I play Seether or modern Alice In Chains (both bands I personally like and which are successful) to friends or random people, most will ask me to turn it off too.

:P

Or Marilyn Manson:

Do you want me to stop already?

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Someone should leak something big ( not sure what is left with actual vocals) on the night if the first show while Guns are on stage on the 25th.

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Even the Silkworms demo sounds decent now. I really need to stop drinking. 

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Kind of "funny" when you think about it. First four new songs we get to hear from our band in 11 years are 20-year old unreleased demos... 

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3 minutes ago, jamillos said:

Kind of "funny" when you think about it. First four new songs we get to hear from our band in 11 years are 20-year old unreleased demos... 

It's not exactly unusual.... It's just that most bands this applies to are dead. 

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2 minutes ago, jamillos said:

Kind of "funny" when you think about it. First four new songs we get to hear from our band in 11 years are 20-year old unreleased demos... 

During NuGuns era we got to hear old guns songs (live mainly) that had been written and recorded by the prior line up.

During NewGuns era we mainly got to hear NuGuns songs (leaks, and then the album)that had been written and recorded by the prior line up.

Now we're in NewOldGuns we're getting to hear songs (leaks) from prior prior lineups that were rerecordings of prior prior prior prior lineups, that were cover songs!

Thankfully we seem to have skipped Ashba.

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