Dean Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 6 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said: The Rough Mixes 1 version has really grown on me recently, but it still really feels like a demo overall (obviously). Brian May is the highlight of the song. It's good but it's definitely not my favourite out of the 4 'new' songs. Supposedly the 'updated' version is longer and I hope they release it eventually. I still think the definitive version at this point is the Atlas disc with Brain on the kit. Those drums tore my face off. I'm guessing the mix will be a lot better, guitar's much more prominent, but I hope that when it does see the light of day, that it still possesses the same charm that the demos have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Not sure whose drums I prefer on Atlas, maybe Brain, but I like all that extra organ/synth/whatever it is on the Rough Mixes CD1 version. Typical of ChiDem songs where they start off with a lot of synth which then gets removed and/or replaced with live orchestra arrangements (worked out for the better with TWAT in my opinion and with mixed results with Prostitute). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAFC Nick Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Is the RM1 Atlas newer than the Brain/Josh separate ones? For me the RM1 Atlas is the worst of them. Has a weird echoey vibe along with more amateur (albeit louder) guitar work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 37 minutes ago, CAFC Nick said: Is the RM1 Atlas newer than the Brain/Josh separate ones? For me the RM1 Atlas is the worst of them. Has a weird echoey vibe along with more amateur (albeit louder) guitar work. RM01 would have been the first mix with Josh on the kit - all of them would have been subject to change and just exactly what it says on the tin, a 'rough mix'. The Rough Mix disc has a second, more polished mix. The Atlas disc has Brain on the kit and a mix that has made look at life in a completely different way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAFC Nick Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 6 hours ago, Dean said: RM01 would have been the first mix with Josh on the kit - all of them would have been subject to change and just exactly what it says on the tin, a 'rough mix'. The Rough Mix disc has a second, more polished mix. The Atlas disc has Brain on the kit and a mix that has made look at life in a completely different way Fair point, thanks for that. I like it less because I think the guitars suck compared to the other versions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourMother'sDruthers Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I just hope at some point we can hear Oklahoma and quicksong with lyrics. I can’t believe his good those instrumentals are. Those drums on Oklahoma... so fucking incredible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimisbatman Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) Quick questions regarding recent leaks: is it safe to assume that all the songs/Mixes, that josh played on, were beaven Mixes? And vise versa, all the beaven mixes, had josh on drums? And what dates did beaven start/end,. And RTB start/end. Thanks in advance for assistance with these questions? Edited January 11, 2020 by jimisbatman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlSlashthebest Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 For some of you who know "as it began". listen this song for exemple at 1.55 or 2.06 minutes...........and let me know what you think !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumandraisin Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 10 hours ago, jimisbatman said: Quick questions regarding recent leaks: is it safe to assume that all the songs/Mixes, that josh played on, were beaven Mixes? And vise versa, all the beaven mixes, had josh on drums? And what dates did beaven start/end,. And RTB start/end. Thanks in advance for assistance with these questions? No, there is a crossover with Beaven and RTB being involved in the project at the same time and some RTB mixes with JOSH drums eg Chinese 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAFC Nick Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 23 hours ago, Dean said: RM01 would have been the first mix with Josh on the kit - all of them would have been subject to change and just exactly what it says on the tin, a 'rough mix'. The Rough Mix disc has a second, more polished mix. The Atlas disc has Brain on the kit and a mix that has made look at life in a completely different way Just re-listened to them and the RM01 version of Atlas is definitely Brain’s take! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 20 minutes ago, CAFC Nick said: Just re-listened to them and the RM01 version of Atlas is definitely Brain’s take! Hmm, not too sure on that. I’d say it’s Josh! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeeker Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 28 minutes ago, CAFC Nick said: Just re-listened to them and the RM01 version of Atlas is definitely Brain’s take! The track is dated 3/27/2000 - Brain wasn't hired until October 2000 Educate yourself: 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAFC Nick Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 On 11/01/2020 at 2:05 PM, TheSeeker said: The track is dated 3/27/2000 - Brain wasn't hired until October 2000 Educate yourself: On 11/01/2020 at 1:55 PM, Dean said: Hmm, not too sure on that. I’d say it’s Josh! Gentlemen - please accept my apologies. I waited a couple days to get home and get my laptop so I could open up audacity and put them all together to prove my point and at the most basic level I actually had the labels on my iPhone wrong (I had the Brain version incorrectly labelled as Atlas Shrugged (1999) - all kinds of wrong... the Josh version as Atlas Shrugged (2001) - again, wrong - and Atlas Shrugged (RM01)). When you guys were saying "its Josh", I'm thinking you were mad because the opening toms are SO different between the two. Glad you made me go and check it and prove me wrong ha! To all the others I can definitely say it's Josh! Funny as well as this was always my one example where I thought the Brain drums were better than Josh, now I realise I had it wrong all along. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimisbatman Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Just gotta say, I'm loving these conversations about Josh, and who is playing on these songs, really helpful. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLotus1111 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Josh was such a wasted opportunity that Axl let it slip. His drumming on "Oklahoma" was top tier. I love his tracks more than Brain. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimisbatman Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 On 16/09/2019 at 10:12 AM, Azifwekare said: Rick posted a photo of a sheet of paper titled 'Subject Masters' with 25 songs on it, with a couple of new titles on it. I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it. Do we have any more information about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finck2006 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 From the instrumentals they have a lot of potential specially Tonto Me & My Elvis D Tune (this probably will have other name now) Curly Shuffle (this probably too) Zodiac Quicksong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLotus1111 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Finck2006 said: From the instrumentals they have a lot of potential specially Tonto Me & My Elvis D Tune (this probably will have other name now) Curly Shuffle (this probably too) Zodiac Quicksong Mustache was pretty cool too! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagszilla Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/15/2020 at 11:56 AM, DarkLotus1111 said: Josh was such a wasted opportunity that Axl let it slip. Axl’s career, writ large. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 After a few months if not listening to GNR at all, I went back and listened to the leaks with vocals. State Of Grace and Atlas Shrugged are my top two favorites. Both songs are in my top favorites from the CD era. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caedo Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 On 20/01/2020 at 6:45 PM, Finck2006 said: From the instrumentals they have a lot of potential specially Tonto Me & My Elvis D Tune (this probably will have other name now) Curly Shuffle (this probably too) Zodiac Quicksong Don't forget Oklahoma 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogman Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Really want to hear a finished version of Nothing. Love Axl's vocal melody and the way he's singing in his natural voice. The song sounds like the love child of Patience/D'yer Mak'er/Rod Stewart. Some improvements would be the addition of guitars and real drums. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeagol2124 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 "Nothing" feels to me like the grown up cousin of Just Another Sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 24 minutes ago, dogman said: Really want to hear a finished version of Nothing. Love Axl's vocal melody and the way he's singing in his natural voice. The song sounds like the love child of Patience/D'yer Mak'er/Rod Stewart. Some improvements would be the addition of guitars and real drums. I've been playing that a lot the past week or two. Love his voice on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azifwekare Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 On 20/01/2020 at 4:18 AM, jimisbatman said: Do we have any more information about this? No, because it was all fake. He put that list together to make it look like he still had something left. Rick can't be trusted. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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