RedHook Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) ATLAS SHRUGGED (Lyrics) 1999 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Why should I try and judge The things they say, they just won’t budge I’m letting go And shelter from the blind, storm You managed to be kind But still not to show me how to keep it together When my heart’s crying out in vain No matter who’s to blame There are still ways to go So if you ask me to believe your heart will follow you It’s got a mind of its own When it’s as wrong and the road gets rough And you’re the one Whose shoulders just Ain’t wide enough Whose shoulders shrug when they’ve had enough I’ll be the last to say « don’t follow your heart » There’s more to what it takes to be a man Than what you’ve known What you’re shown And what we know you understand It’s another thing, if I were you I would say all that I do to be half as strong Or still belong You really should take the time To look back at all of your past misadventures When it’s as wrong and the road gets rough And you’re the one Whose shoulders just Ain’t wide enough Whose shoulders shrug when they’ve had enough I’ll be the last to say « don’t follow your heart » But there’s more to what it takes to be a man Than what you know What you’re shown That’s what we know you’ll understand Don’t ever say « don’t follow your heart » If I’m wrong, that’s what it takes to make amend (could be "that's what it takes to make a man") From what you’ve known And all that you’ve been shown Jesus now I hope you understand I’ll be the last to say « don’t follow your heart » But there’s more to what it takes to be a man Than what you know What you’ve shown And what we know you understand I never said « don’t follow your heart » If I’m wrong, that’s what it takes to make amend More than you know And all that you’ve been shown Jesus now I hope you understand Edited September 5, 2019 by RedHook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Rose Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Michael Jackson released NINE fucking singles from Dangerous with zero b-sides ranging across an absolutely crazy amount of styles. Jam Black or White Give In To Me Gone Too Soon Heal The World In The Closet Will You Be There Remember The Time Who Is It If we're talking '99-'01 with proper video treatments, full label support, award shows and tv appearances, interviews, magazine covers etc etc etc they could have released loads of stuff from Chinese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarpatch Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Nicklord said: Well he tried to have catchy choruses on a lot of songs, he just failed to create a single one. He wanted to do everything in one album and failed There are multiple songs that have just simple refrains. What are you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Rose Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, RussTCB said: Apparently I should explain that it's Russ - TCB.... As in, my name +Elvis' motto of "TCB" LOL. Haha, had to Google that reference. My boss is called Russ and privately we affectionately call him Rusty Buckets lol. Do you have any idea what state TB/Axl/Guns camp are in over all this? I'm guessing it's either a non-issue or total meltdown, nothing inbetween. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfanJen Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) I’ve only listened to Atlas once, dying to listen to it again here during lunch. It’s a good song, just a horrible mix. I definitely think Hard School would’ve done better as a single, but by no means is Atlas a bad song. I like the direction and the ideas they were going with. Edited September 5, 2019 by GNRfanJen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted September 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jordan Rose said: Haha, had to Google that reference. My boss is called Russ and privately we affectionately call him Rusty Buckets lol. Do you have any idea what state TB/Axl/Guns camp are in over all this? I'm guessing it's either a non-issue or total meltdown, nothing inbetween. I have no idea what TB or GN'R are thinking but I sure as shit just received an email from the GNR store trying to sell me.......I SHIT YOU NOT.........a GN'R branded LAUNDRY BAG. W T F 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Easiest explanation for Chinese's bad promotion at the time is the budget was blown many times over, so music videos weren't an option. Shackler's showing up on Rock Band 2 likely helped the most with moving units, but the Best Buy deal did the band no favors whatsoever. The label at least pushed out single discs for ChiDem, SoD & Better, but there's several other tracks that could have taken off given the right promotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 minute ago, RussTCB said: I have no idea what TB or GN'R are thinking but I sure as shit just received an email from the GNR store trying to sell me.......I SHIT YOU NOT.........a GN'R branded LAUNDRY BAG. W T F If this band released music as often as they release stupid garbage that nobody wants we’d have the whole vault by now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gackt Posted September 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, RussTCB said: I have no idea what TB or GN'R are thinking but I sure as shit just received an email from the GNR store trying to sell me.......I SHIT YOU NOT.........a GN'R branded LAUNDRY BAG. W T F goddammit 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 26 minutes ago, Gackt said: The album as a whole would be much more forgettable if it didn't include Bucket & Bumble's contributions. Yeah I don’t like bumble as a person all that much (from what I’ve seen in interviews) but he and bucket saved Chinese Democracy’s ass. These demos are cool, and some aspects are actually superior to the final versions, but as far as overall songs are considered, I’m still glad we got the album we got in 2008. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimpy Hewitt Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 59 minutes ago, RussTCB said: I mean this in a funny way, but I love how everyone is still listing the other leaks you'd like to have happen.... Y'all waited 20 years to hear the two recent leaks.....enjoy them for a minute before looking for more! Sheesh! Lol This just inspired me to go make another Terminator thread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 It's funny, I have almost opposite pros and cons for Atlas and Hard School. With Hard School I tend to skip the first minute; with Atlas the first minute is my favourite part. With Hard School I love the chorus but not super big on the verses; with Atlas I love the verses but the chorus does nothing for me. With Hard School I love the outro; Atlas is anticlimactic for me. Regardless, I'd love to hear what Slash and Duff can bring to one or both tracks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad_k Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) Damn, you North American's are so lucky to be getting merch like that! Holy Shit, we get that too, and for a measly £50 Edited September 5, 2019 by brad_k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Gackt said: goddammit Please tell me this a joke or a photoshop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarpatch Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, RussTCB said: I have no idea what TB or GN'R are thinking but I sure as shit just received an email from the GNR store trying to sell me.......I SHIT YOU NOT.........a GN'R branded LAUNDRY BAG. W T F Saw that...They also may be clearing out some inventory by including a hat and a shirt. That might be a good sign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Just now, AxlRoseCDII said: Please tell me this a joke or a photoshop. https://gnrmerch.com/products/back-to-school-mystery-bundle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 About the song, I know I'm late in the thread, but here's my opinion anyways: I love the odd time signatures and key changes. It's totally different from the GNR style, but I really don't care about that. The keyboard intro reminds me a bit of a Mellotron, kinda like Beatles-ish. Funny how some of you thought it was weird. Strawberry Fields Forever came to my mind. The drums are fenomenal. Sounds like Josh Freese to me. The guitar work is ok throughout the song, but Brian May solos (IMO, it's all Brian May, no Robin or Paul at all) are awesome. Kinda funny to see some people here saying he emulated Slash, when it there's a lot of things Slash actually got "inspired" by May. I like Axl's melodies, but I agree that it's nothing special. Like the lyrics too. I just don't think Axl wanted to make this song to be a hit or a single. Neither with Prostitute, Catcher or The Blues - all those songs lack a really catchy chorus. I don't think Axl was interested in write a radio hit at all, but Shaclker's, Sorry and Better all sounded like they were worked with that in mind. About the edit: it does sounds odd how it has a dry cut. But then again, there's tons of this stuff on the album. I'm not conviced that this leak in particular is fan-edited or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Gackt said: Easiest explanation for Chinese's bad promotion at the time is the budget was blown many times over, so music videos weren't an option. Shackler's showing up on Rock Band 2 likely helped the most with moving units, but the Best Buy deal did the band no favors whatsoever. The label at least pushed out single discs for ChiDem, SoD & Better, but there's several other tracks that could have taken off given the right promotion. IRS, Madagascar, Sorry, This I Love, Shackler’s, and If the World would’ve ALL been better singles than Street of Dreams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Rose Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, RussTCB said: I have no idea what TB or GN'R are thinking but I sure as shit just received an email from the GNR store trying to sell me.......I SHIT YOU NOT.........a GN'R branded LAUNDRY BAG. W T F Do not know whether to laugh or cry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Just now, Jordan Rose said: Do not know whether to laugh or cry. For the record, I laughed and showed a co-worker who then laughed as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonGuns Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Haven't had time to listen to this yet. Been too busy making sure I don't miss out on a limited edition GNFNR laundry bag. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeperilsofrockNRollDekednz Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Got to admit I’m underwhelmed after the 20 years of mystique surrounding this tune. It’s probably a grower. Hear Skynrd in the arrangement and May’s solo. Not sure if it’s Beavan or Baker production? It’s very much in the vein just less impactful. I doubt Bumble’s solo added to the latter recording. No classic but maybe a grower. Still better than Goin Down, but flatter than HardSchool. Suspect that General might be underwhelming too! That said I love Chinese Democracy the album Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarpatch Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) Maybe this is also a subtle shot at the forums for airing the “dirty laundry” via leaks Edited September 5, 2019 by guitarpatch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Rose Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Just now, guitarpatch said: Maybe this is also a subtle shot at the forums for airing the “dirty laundry” via leaks Hmmmm! Anyone in the know think that could be a real possibility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklord Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, guitarpatch said: There are multiple songs that have just simple refrains. What are you talking about? CD, Shakler's, Catcher, IRS and Prostitute all tried to have big choruses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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