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7 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

Technically we'd never heard "Prostitute 1999, Version 3" before, so he wasn't really lying, lol. :axl:

I’m an insane fan and I would not do that deal. BTW we were at a few of the same guns shows @Gordon Comstock

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6 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said:

Technically we'd never heard "Prostitute 1999, Version 3" before, so he wasn't really lying, lol. :axl:

He had confirmed a list that was originally posted elsewhere, which was about 15 songs with vocals without counting versions of songs that were on CD.

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What about this album of unheard songs no-one had heard of that someone mentioned? Was that just bullshit?

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Just now, Blackstar said:

He had confirmed a list that was originally posted elsewhere, which was about 15 songs with vocals without counting versions of songs that were on CD.

Now 15....I may have done that deal. Then why the earlier posts claiming 7ish? 

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Just now, Blackstar said:

He had confirmed a list that was originally posted elsewhere, which was about 15 songs with vocals without counting versions of songs that were on CD.

I've read some different things... apparently there's only a handful of "complete" songs/demos, and then there's stuff like "Dummy" which is 6 mins long but it has the same few lyrics repeating over and over....

2 minutes ago, Arnuld said:

I’m an insane fan and I would not do that deal. BTW we were at a few of the same guns shows @Gordon Comstock

Seattle 2016 was great! That was the best performance of Coma I've heard them do. Out Ta Get Me and Catcher In The Rye were really good too. Which Vegas shows were you at?

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1 minute ago, Gordon Comstock said:

I've read some different things... apparently there's only a handful of "complete" songs/demos, and then there's stuff like "Dummy" which is 6 mins long but it has the same few lyrics repeating over and over....

So maybe some parts of ideas and whatnot? I’d buy that. Still. These songs are amazing and I’m enjoying them but these songs all need some work

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1 minute ago, Arnuld said:

Now 15....I may have done that deal. Then why the earlier posts claiming 7ish? 

I guess because the source of the information is different (=other hoarders or "insiders").

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6 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said:

I've read some different things... apparently there's only a handful of "complete" songs/demos, and then there's stuff like "Dummy" which is 6 mins long but it has the same few lyrics repeating over and over....

Seattle 2016 was great! That was the best performance of Coma I've heard them do. Out Ta Get Me and Catcher In The Rye were really good too. Which Vegas shows were you at?

I was actually at the Vegas 01 dec 29th show, Vegas NYE 2011, and one of those November 2012 shows not sure of the exact date. But Izzy was there! Oh and the second Vegas 2016 show. Hated that Axl was in the fucking chair but he sounded awesome!

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6 minutes ago, Arnuld said:

I was actually at the Vegas 01 dec 29th show, Vegas NYE 2011, and one of those November 2012 shows not sure of the exact date. But Izzy was there! Oh and the second Vegas 2016 show. Hated that Axl was in the fucking chair but he sounded awesome!

Was 12/29/01 a good show? I wish a video of that one existed.

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Listening to it now, for the second time.

Not really getting into it. Axl's vocals sound pro-tooled to death. Also not a big fan of sudden chord changes.

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The song is kind of repetitive. How many times does he say "what it takes to be a man" the guitar solo is the only thing breaking up the monotony. I give it 4 out of 10.

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I wouldn't say I don't like it, but there's about 10 seconds of it that I REALLY like. About 1:50 to 2:00. 

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I think fans are starving for music so much that they somehow "thinks" that this is a good song :P 

I know it's just a demo but... meh, pretty weird and boring imo. And 20 years to late. I've always thought of this song to be heavy and dark. 

But ofc, music is subjective. 

 

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I think people need to keep in mind that these are demos and not the finished product. Keep in mind that some of the AFD demos were a bit different than what ended up on AFD. Ditto with UYI. 

It's very clear to me that Hard School and Atlas needs work.  I think Slash and Duff can put their touches on these songs and finish it. 

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The UYI demos that circulate at least are almost all the actual album takes just without the album mixing. AFD did have some changes, though, certainly. The original outro for Rocket Queen is just awful. 

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4 minutes ago, Stro said:

The UYI demos that circulate at least are almost all the actual album takes just without the album mixing. AFD did have some changes, though, certainly. The original outro for Rocket Queen is just awful. 

There were some differences. The demo for November Rain was at first 28 minutes long. Don't Cry from 1986 was a bit different than what appeared on the album. 

RQ definitely improved from the demo to the final product on AFD. 

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It's possible that the reason this stuff has been buried all these years and Axl's so hesitant to release new music is because after all the time, the endlessly tinkered with songs on CD was as good as he had. 

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30 minutes ago, Arnuld said:

I was actually at the Vegas 01 dec 29th show, Vegas NYE 2011, and one of those November 2012 shows not sure of the exact date. But Izzy was there! Oh and the second Vegas 2016 show. Hated that Axl was in the fucking chair but he sounded awesome!

 

Nice! Izzy was at the last two shows in 2012 (November 23 and 24) and that was the last time he publicly performed with Axl. There were some really cool moments but I'd probably rate those as the 'worst' GNR shows I've seen... but that really says more about how good the other shows were. 14 Years and Dead Flowers were really cool even though Axl didn't sound great... the weird thing about that time period was that Axl's clean voice mostly sounded completely Mickey and awful, but every now and then he'd use a cool, vintage-sounding, heavily mid-western accent. It was weird, but I like that voice. And there were moments where he'd sing with a strong clean voice or the classic raspy voice, like WTTJ was way better in 2012 than it was in 2017 for example.

I met Bumblefoot at both residencies btw, super nice guy, I was kinda drunk the 2nd time and asked him if they could play TWAT and Prostitute (they'd played them both the night before, for the first times in ages) and sure enough, he gave me a funny look when they started playing TWAT the next night (I was in the front row, on his side of the stage).

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37 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said:

Was 12/29/01 a good show? I wish a video of that one existed.

It was a little off in the beginning but after that....amazing. Axl was in insane shape and it was the original CD band. I literally to this day have never been that excited. 

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13 hours ago, D.. said:

Please give me the names of rock bands that still put out great songs (except the very famous ones like NIN, Muse etc).

I find rock music absolutely garbage nowadays. 

The Darkness 

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1 minute ago, Arnuld said:

It was a little off in the beginning but after that....amazing. Axl was in insane shape and it was the original CD band. I literally to this day have never been that excited. 

Did Axl walk off during OMG or did his mic just stop working? Was his voice similar to other 2001/02 shows or did he sound more like 2006? (He looked physically a lot more like 2006 Axl than Rio 2001 Axl, so I've always wondered if his vocals were more raspy at those shows).

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13 hours ago, default_ said:

Really? I dont think so, this is from the locker Cds so, 99-00

Is this the general consensus? 

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1 hour ago, Old_school_gnr_fan said:

Listening to it now, for the second time.

Not really getting into it. Axl's vocals sound pro-tooled to death. Also not a big fan of sudden chord changes.

I bet it grows on you

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