MrMojo Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 minute ago, adamsapple said: I wouldn't call people who don't own at least one copy of UYI II average fans. Maybe casuals, yes. But not average. I understand the majority not getting excited about CD material, but Locomotive is to GNR what say Achilles is to Zeppelin, any actual fan should know it. One of Zeps greatest tracks Same with wearing and tearing & Poor Tom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 34 minutes ago, History2010 said: Most people at the shows are casual fans. Listen to the reaction to WTTJ, SCOM, November Rain vs all the other songs. In fact, as dumb as it is. A lot of people next to me actually left and never came back after SCOM. Can't blame them though. They want to hear the hits. I have bands where I'm just a casual fan and I'm in that camp. This is true, but for me even when I'm a casual fan I stay to the end, unless the band are playing shite and sometimes I even break my rule and stay (RHCP). As far as I'm concerned those casuals can't leave quick enough, I want to be surrounded by people who know and are enjoying the music, and not people waiting for the hits on their phone or talking loudly to their friends (not even about what's happening in front of them). One of my favourite gnr gigs was 2012 in dublin because loads of the 'hits' fans didn't buy tickets because of the 2010 gig, but this made it excellent, great crowd! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IncitingChaos Posted October 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2019 Locomotive is a track you get to deep into your appreciation for GNR and it hits you that this may have been the most talented band ever put together. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 21 minutes ago, adamsapple said: I wouldn't call people who don't own at least one copy of UYI II average fans. Maybe casuals, yes. But not average. I understand the majority not getting excited about CD material, but Locomotive is to GNR what say Achilles is to Zeppelin, any actual fan should know it. You know a lot more people who've listened to all of UYI than I do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskingApathy Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 10 hours ago, North Korean Democracy said: Locomotive was excellent. How the hell did they recognize Rick? He publicly posted on Facebook that he was at the show and in VIP, so not hard to find him after that. 10 hours ago, AtariLegend said: Rick played a central part in multiple cds worth of un released tracks from the band leaking, including tracks that will probably be on the next album (if there is one). He then posted about it on the biggest Guns N' Roses forum on the net and on social under his real name to get attention. Suggesting he'd spread them, then they spread. He then buys a VIP pass to their concert with his name on a tag soon after expecting to meet the band. He might not behind the personsa(s) in question spreading them through Discord or Evo, but he put himself front and center for attention. Sorry guys, but get fuckin' real if your really think ole Rick was hard done by. He should be grateful he's not facing legal action, never mind expecting gratitude. We can all be grateful we heard these tracks, but don't expect the band to be. Yeah I agree. If he hadn't said anything and no one knew he had bought the CDs (and kept quiet about being at the show) none of that would've happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Locomotive and Breakdown are very underrated , two masterpieces misunderstood by society 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 4 hours ago, IncitingChaos said: I like his voice at 4:09 but it may have just happened because he was out of breath. Dude, I just heard that before reading your post and was thinking how fucking awesome it sounded haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 hour ago, RussTCB said: I don't understand how anyone could expect the average GNR fan to know Locomotive. My Brother would be casual, and would have heard all GNRs albums. He heard me listening to the track and was asking what song it was, so I totally agree with you. I'd consider him someone who has a pretty wide knowledge of the band, but obviously hasn't gone down the rabbit hole like I did This song is added in for the forum type fans. He liked the song, and thought it was cool they added it... but he also said Garden of eden, Dead Horse, Pretty tied up would have been better shouts to add. As much as I like Locomotive, it is a long, long song so I kinda agree with him as someone objectively looking at the 3hr show. Still as a hardcore fan (objectivity out the window) I'm doing cartwheels that they played such a deep cut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caedo Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Guns n Roses basically have 5 albums. Surely someone who has enough of an interest to cough up over $100 for concert tickets would at least have heard most of their songs before, there aren't that many to go through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlashisGOD Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Slash killed Locomotive. Goddamn he was dead on, especially his solos. Axl sounded good on it too. Makes me think that the possibility of them breaking out Hard School and Dead Horse are higher now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourteenbeers Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 21 minutes ago, RussTCB said: I don't understand how anyone could expect the average GNR fan to know Locomotive. If by average, you mean a casual fan, who only knows the biggest hits, then you're probably right. How ever, fans don't have to be die-hards to own UYI albums and in that case many of them must at least recognize the song when it starts playing (many may know the lyrics too) I mean, there must be some kind of "middle ground fans" between the SCOM crowd and the die-hards? If I was a casual fan and heard that fast riff from Slash's guitar for the first time, I'd definitely try to reschedule my pee break and see what the song is about. Anyway, I'm really glad they played it live after so long time. and BTW, have Fermanager's henchmen busted a cap on Rick's ass already? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-W.A.R- Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Caedo said: Guns n Roses basically have 5 albums. Surely someone who has enough of an interest to cough up over $100 for concert tickets would at least have heard most of their songs before, there aren't that many to go through. Yeah its not like they have some deep catalog like the Stones. Any "fan" should be familiar with the song. That said, many go for the experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdinan Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Axl was about as good vocally on that song as you can expect. He was always a bit of a clusterfuck on Locomotive. The lower register sounds fine, as usual when he starts going to the higher register it sounds weak, but about as good as you're getting from a guy pushing 60 at this point. Definitely a breath of fresh air to hear something different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 53 minutes ago, RussTCB said: You know a lot more people who've listened to all of UYI than I do. This morning I actually immediately sent the locomotive link to 5 friends/family members that I knew would know and appreciate that it was played.. If I scrolled through all my contacts I could have definitely sent it to a few more but they have become more of acquaintances over the years. One friend (from Michigan actually) would have loved it but he passed a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmt Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 After listening to Locomotive for the 20th time since last night, he sounds better doing this song live at 57 then he did in 1991. I never thought I would ever make that statement about the current version of Guns N Roses. Pretty amazing how adding one deep cut can completely change your enthusiasm for the band. Amazing performance, that has not got old after hearing it 20 times, getting ready for 21. Crank it up with some headphones, great experience. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 minute ago, ironmt said: After listening to Locomotive for the 20th time since last night, he sounds better doing this song live at 57 then he did in 1991. I never thought I would ever make that statement about the current version of Guns N Roses. Pretty amazing how adding one deep cut can completely change your enthusiasm for the band. Amazing performance, that has not got old after hearing it 20 times, getting ready for 21. Crank it up with some headphones, great experience. lol.... Listened to it on my phone and laptop a few times before work this morning.. Then had my phone on my dash while driving to work with it cranked through my car speakers!! Watched it while walking my dog tonight and a couple more times after that ha 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMG Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 My only issue with the studio mix is that Axl's vocals in the verses are a little too loud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Axl slayed Locomotive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmt Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Just now, Tom-Ass said: lol.... Listened to it on my phone and laptop a few times before work this morning.. Then had my phone on my dash while driving to work with it cranked through my car speakers!! Watched it while walking my dog tonight and a couple more times after that ha lol, it's just not getting old. This sounds very lame but I have not been this excited over the band since they reunited, over just adding one song to the setlist. I am just blown away with how good they sound on such a difficult song considering how bad Axl has sounded on songs like November Rain and You Could Be Mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lame ass security Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 18 minutes ago, Fourteenbeers said: If by average, you mean a casual fan, who only knows the biggest hits, then you're probably right. How ever, fans don't have to be die-hards to own UYI albums and in that case many of them must at least recognize the song when it starts playing (many may know the lyrics too) I mean, there must be some kind of "middle ground fans" between the SCOM crowd and the die-hards? If I was a casual fan and heard that fast riff from Slash's guitar for the first time, I'd definitely try to reschedule my pee break and see what the song is about. Anyway, I'm really glad they played it live after so long time. and BTW, have Fermanager's henchmen busted a cap on Rick's ass already? Locomotive and Nighttrain, they should do a cover of Crazy Train and have Train as an opening act.😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotsfired cro Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Seeeeriously how good Ax and Frank sounded - makes me think if they just played Locomotive version from '91 or '92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 47 minutes ago, Antonio said: Locomotive and Breakdown are very underrated , two masterpieces misunderstood by society Forgot about Breakdown! After Dead Horse gets played we’ll have to beg for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmt Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, IncitingChaos said: Forgot about Breakdown! After Dead Horse gets played we’ll have to beg for that Have to go with Breakdown before Dead Horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, IncitingChaos said: Forgot about Breakdown! After Dead Horse gets played we’ll have to beg for that Yes, Axl look dissatisfied at the end of Locomotive, so maybe they don't even play dead horse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, ironmt said: After listening to Locomotive for the 20th time since last night, he sounds better doing this song live at 57 then he did in 1991. I never thought I would ever make that statement about the current version of Guns N Roses. Pretty amazing how adding one deep cut can completely change your enthusiasm for the band. Amazing performance, that has not got old after hearing it 20 times, getting ready for 21. Crank it up with some headphones, great experience. I think that the secret that Axl sounds better now he did back then is Axl for his age can't run too much , and it improvement him perfomance. Back then Axl run out like madman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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