appetite4illusions Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Why do you think that we never heard of this song? Is there a reason Catcher and Atlas got marquee billing in the years of rumor and innuendo? I think it's because this song, more than any other song, feels like a part of another album - possibly the earliest version of Chinese Democracy. Call it 2000 Intentions. This is what I always imagined Chinese would sound like after I bought the End Of Days soundtrack and obsessed about a new Guns N' Roses. It has that cold, clinical feel to it with lots of dramatic turns and orchestration. The fidelity is LOW, further suggesting this track was one that came from the dinosaur ages of the late nineties. It's surprisingly strong, because any number of the leaks we got had definite weaknesses in terms of song quality and presentation - I am quite surprised at how much works here for a song nobody ever bigged up. But yeah, the vibe of this song is very different from almost anything but TWAT. It sounds like a direction Axl pursued, then abandoned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alejandro GNR Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) I love the "hey heys", they're just so Axl... I'd like the last "used to be a little crazy now there's so much more" to be "used to be a little crazy now there's so much moooouuuuuuooooreeeeee" hahahaha I can't get enough of Axl, I'm sorry guys Edited September 17, 2019 by Alejandro GNR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnR Chris Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 The "hey heys" are everything. The piano "riff" and the "you're all alone part." I love Axl Rose. To quote Chuck Klosterman's review of Chinese Democracy, "The final truth is this: [Axl] makes the best songs. They sound the way I want songs to sound." 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THELINESMAN Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 My heart bleeds for leaks More leaks that is! What a brilliant song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 I find it funny how the majority of people here don’t talk highly of Robin’s playing, and there’s a solo on this song people can’t decide is Brian May (one of indisputable guitar legends) or Robin. Let that sink in for a second. I actually think it’s Finck. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to the Dave Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 29 minutes ago, AxlRoseCDII said: I find it funny how the majority of people here don’t talk highly of Robin’s playing, and there’s a solo on this song people can’t decide is Brian May (one of indisputable guitar legends) or Robin. Let that sink in for a second. I actually think it’s Finck. Well in Brian Mays defence people are stupid, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Great song, but I rank 'State Of Grace' & 'Atlas Shrugged' above it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alejandro GNR Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 I think the last four leaks of unknown songs let us know new music will be great. Some may like these songs more than others, but Axl still is GnR best song writter by far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, AxlRoseCDII said: I find it funny how the majority of people here don’t talk highly of Robin’s playing, and there’s a solo on this song people can’t decide is Brian May (one of indisputable guitar legends) or Robin. Let that sink in for a second. I actually think it’s Finck. I've actually had the same impression, the solo has an almost identical tone to Robin's solo in Catcher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finck2006 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 I will say its May. Perhaps was done the same date as Atlas and Catcher 27/03/2000. I would like to think that Axl made play May in songs with vocals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sousadias Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 I think Brian do the guitar licks on the center channel throughout the song, the solo maybe can be Finck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Download Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Definitely has a “Catcher” vibe. Like a lot of Chinese era tunes it grows on me the more I listen to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 This really is miles ahead of the other leaks IMO. I just wish it had better sound quality. Maybe in 13 years an HQ version will leak 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 11 hours ago, Gackt said: I've actually had the same impression, the solo has an almost identical tone to Robin's solo in Catcher. You mean Robin's solo after the main solo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Glow Inc. Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Why would anyone in his right mind choose to include If The World and Scraped over Perhaps and Hard School on Chinese Democracy and let these songs rot for eleven years on a hard drive ? Mind boggling... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 41 minutes ago, The Glow Inc. said: Why would anyone in his right mind choose to include If The World and Scraped over Perhaps and Hard School on Chinese Democracy and let these songs rot for eleven years on a hard drive ? Mind boggling... They might have been intended for... ehm... "CD II". You know, the record that was to come definitely within a year or so after ChD. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) I know it's probably never gonna happen (prove me wrong @Dexter, go on!), but I don't see how this could ever be performed live. The chorus is too multi-layered. I guess he could get Melissa or Duff to sing the "you're all alone" part, but that would sound shitty. I guess that's the only way it's do-able. Never gonna happen though. Edited September 19, 2019 by Towelie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillBailey Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 I love the wifey stories in this thread haha. Itdontreallymatta lol. Anyways, my fav leak of them all. The piano riff is amazing. Not a big fan of all the other tracks really, but this one has an actual Illusion feeling to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnerpr Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 40 minutes ago, Ratbrain said: Can anyone fill in the blanks or hear something different? Perhaps I was wrong When I didn't see you (hey hey) Perhaps I was wrong (hey) Well I don't believe you Well how will I know how it feels What it is to be you I've been so upset Harbouring this hate for days (hey) My sense of rejection (hey hey) Is no excuse for my behaviour (ugh) You pulled the gun (hey hey) That shot I crucified my saviour Now he is no more And I am without you Like I was before The way I used to be (ugh) What a weight upon your shoulders That you don't need My heart bleeds for me (?????????????) You're all alone now (?????????????) All alone (?????????????) You're all alone Used to be a little crazy that was so much fun You're all alone Perhaps I was wrong (hey hey) When I didn't see you (hey hey) Perhaps I was wrong (hey) Well I don't believe you Well how will I know how it feels What it is to be you I've been so upset Harbouring this hate for days (ugh) What a weight upon your shoulders That you don't need My heart bleeds for me Save me) Shine like more than a bomb you are (you’re all alone now)(Save me) You could start a fight you know you were begging for (you’re all alone) (Save me) So talk to the ones that you once ignored (you’re all alone ) Save me) You used to be a little crazy now there’s so much more (you’re all alone) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
life_247 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, The Glow Inc. said: Why would anyone in his right mind choose to include If The World and Scraped over Perhaps and Hard School on Chinese Democracy and let these songs rot for eleven years on a hard drive ? Mind boggling... 100% agree - Hard School is such a strange choice to leave out, it blends so well with the old style Guns and I love the BH guitar work. Since this hadn't leaked prior to the album this would of been a perfect first single, get it out to rock based radio and it would of got a lot of plays especially in 2008. Although the whole release of CD was so messed up! Perhaps has that Illusions meets Industrial thing going on too. Both of these tracks are the most old meets new guns songs so its an odd thought that they would be held over for the second album - surely you put these songs out first then move to the even further uncharted territory. But that would make sense but this is GnR that we are talking about Edited September 19, 2019 by life_247 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Ratbrain said: Can anyone fill in the blanks or hear something different? (?????????????) You're all alone now (?????????????) All alone (?????????????) You're all alone Used to be a little crazy that was so much fun You're all alone "I got a lot more than i bargained for You're all alone nowYou forgot about the others you were begging for You're all aloneSo talk to the ones that you once ignoredYou're all alone nowYou used to be a little crazy now there's so much more You're all alone" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 2 hours ago, life_247 said: Perhaps has that Illusions meets Industrial thing going on too. I don't hear a tiny bit of industrial in this song. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Live Like a Suicide said: "I got a lot more than i bargained for You're all alone nowYou forgot about the others you were begging for You're all aloneSo talk to the ones that you once ignoredYou're all alone nowYou used to be a little crazy now there's so much more You're all alone" This sounds about right from what I can make out. The first line is the hardest to get. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnR Chris Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Towelie said: I know it's probably never gonna happen (prove me wrong @Dexter, go on!), but I don't see how this could ever be performed live. The chorus is too multi-layered. I guess he could get Melissa or Duff to sing the "you're all alone" part, but that would sound shitty. I guess that's the only way it's do-able. Never gonna happen though. Exactly what you said: Melissa and Duff can handle the "you're all alone" or, I think it would be better live for the other part to be done by Melissa/Duff while Axl wails "you're all alone" over it. Yeah, it isn't multi-layered Axl vocals, but so what? Still cool. Edited September 19, 2019 by GnR Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slash23579 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 I hear “Sounds like more than you bargained for” for the first line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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