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I will say its May. Perhaps was done the same date as Atlas and Catcher 27/03/2000.

I would like to think that Axl made play May in songs with vocals.

 

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Definitely has a “Catcher” vibe. Like a lot of Chinese era tunes it grows on me the more I listen to it. 

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11 hours ago, Gackt said:

I've actually had the same impression, the solo has an almost identical tone to Robin's solo in Catcher.

You mean Robin's solo after the main solo?

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Why would anyone in his right mind choose to include If The World and Scraped over Perhaps and Hard School on Chinese Democracy and let these songs rot for eleven years on a hard drive ? Mind boggling...

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41 minutes ago, The Glow Inc. said:

Why would anyone in his right mind choose to include If The World and Scraped over Perhaps and Hard School on Chinese Democracy and let these songs rot for eleven years on a hard drive ? Mind boggling...

They might have been intended for... ehm... "CD II". You know, the record that was to come definitely within a year or so after ChD. 

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I know it's probably never gonna happen (prove me wrong @Dexter, go on!), but I don't see how this could ever be performed live. The chorus is too multi-layered. I guess he could get Melissa or Duff to sing the "you're all alone" part, but that would sound shitty. I guess that's the only way it's do-able.

Never gonna happen though.

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I love the wifey stories in this thread haha. Itdontreallymatta lol.

Anyways, my fav leak of them all. The piano riff is amazing. Not a big fan of all the other tracks really, but this one has an actual Illusion feeling to it.

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Can anyone fill in the blanks or hear something different?


Perhaps I was wrong
When I didn't see you (hey hey)
Perhaps I was wrong  (hey)
Well I don't believe you
Well how will I know how it feels
What it is to be you
I've been so upset
Harbouring this hate for days (hey)
My sense of rejection (hey hey)
Is no excuse for my behaviour (ugh)
You pulled the gun (hey hey)
That shot I crucified my saviour
Now he is no more
And I am without you
Like I was before
The way I used to be  (ugh)
What a weight upon your shoulders 
That you don't need
My heart bleeds for me

(?????????????)
You're all alone now
(?????????????)
All alone
(?????????????)
You're all alone
Used to be a little crazy that was so much fun
You're all alone


Perhaps I was wrong (hey hey)
When I didn't see you (hey hey)
Perhaps I was wrong  (hey)
Well I don't believe you
Well how will I know how it feels
What it is to be you
I've been so upset
Harbouring this hate for days (ugh)
What a weight upon your shoulders 
That you don't need
My heart bleeds for me

(?????????????)
You're all alone now
(?????????????)
All alone
(?????????????)
You're all alone
Used to be a little crazy that was so much fun
You're all alone

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40 minutes ago, Ratbrain said:

Can anyone fill in the blanks or hear something different?


Perhaps I was wrong
When I didn't see you (hey hey)
Perhaps I was wrong  (hey)
Well I don't believe you
Well how will I know how it feels
What it is to be you
I've been so upset
Harbouring this hate for days (hey)
My sense of rejection (hey hey)
Is no excuse for my behaviour (ugh)
You pulled the gun (hey hey)
That shot I crucified my saviour
Now he is no more
And I am without you
Like I was before
The way I used to be  (ugh)
What a weight upon your shoulders 
That you don't need
My heart bleeds for me

(?????????????)
You're all alone now
(?????????????)
All alone
(?????????????)
You're all alone
Used to be a little crazy that was so much fun
You're all alone


Perhaps I was wrong (hey hey)
When I didn't see you (hey hey)
Perhaps I was wrong  (hey)
Well I don't believe you
Well how will I know how it feels
What it is to be you
I've been so upset
Harbouring this hate for days (ugh)
What a weight upon your shoulders 
That you don't need
My heart bleeds for me

Save me) Shine like more than a bomb you are (you’re all alone now)

(Save me) You could start a fight you know you were begging for (you’re all alone)

(Save me) So talk to the ones that you once ignored (you’re all alone )

Save me) You used to be a little crazy now there’s so much more (you’re all alone)

 

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5 hours ago, The Glow Inc. said:

Why would anyone in his right mind choose to include If The World and Scraped over Perhaps and Hard School on Chinese Democracy and let these songs rot for eleven years on a hard drive ? Mind boggling...

100% agree - Hard School is such a strange choice to leave out, it blends so well with the old style Guns and I love the BH guitar work. Since this hadn't leaked prior to the album this would of been a perfect first single, get it out to rock based radio and it would of got a lot of plays especially in 2008. Although the whole release of CD was so messed up!

Perhaps has that Illusions meets Industrial thing going on too.

Both of these tracks are the most old meets new guns songs so its an odd thought that they would be held over for the second album - surely you put these songs out first then move to the even further uncharted territory. But that would make sense but this is GnR that we are talking about :P

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21 minutes ago, gunnerpr said:

Save me) Shine like more than a bomb you are (you’re all alone now)

(Save me) You could start a fight you know you were begging for (you’re all alone)

(Save me) So talk to the ones that you once ignored (you’re all alone )

Save me) You used to be a little crazy now there’s so much more (you’re all alone)

Not really hearing line 2 but lines 3&4 definitely, line 1 not sure

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3 hours ago, Ratbrain said:

Can anyone fill in the blanks or hear something different?

(?????????????)
You're all alone now
(?????????????)
All alone
(?????????????)
You're all alone
Used to be a little crazy that was so much fun
You're all alone

"I got a lot more than i bargained for 
You're all alone now
You forgot about the others you were begging for 
You're all alone
So talk to the ones that you once ignored
You're all alone now
You used to be a little crazy now there's so much more 
You're all alone"

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2 hours ago, life_247 said:

Perhaps has that Illusions meets Industrial thing going on too.

I don't hear a tiny bit of industrial in this song.

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1 hour ago, Live Like a Suicide said:

"I got a lot more than i bargained for 
You're all alone now
You forgot about the others you were begging for 
You're all alone
So talk to the ones that you once ignored
You're all alone now
You used to be a little crazy now there's so much more 
You're all alone"

This sounds about right from what I can make out. The first line is the hardest to get. 

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11 hours ago, Towelie said:

I know it's probably never gonna happen (prove me wrong @Dexter, go on!), but I don't see how this could ever be performed live. The chorus is too multi-layered. I guess he could get Melissa or Duff to sing the "you're all alone" part, but that would sound shitty. I guess that's the only way it's do-able.

Never gonna happen though.

Exactly what you said: Melissa and Duff can handle the "you're all alone" or, I think it would be better live for the other part to be done by Melissa/Duff while Axl wails "you're all alone" over it. Yeah, it isn't multi-layered Axl vocals, but so what? Still cool.

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Could it be that the "chopped" solo Brian May was talking about in an interview is the one in Perhaps? 

It doesn't sound really melodically cohesive to me, and listening to the leak it may have been a little tinkered with.

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37 minutes ago, DeadHorseinaComa said:

Could it be that the "chopped" solo Brian May was talking about in an interview is the one in Perhaps? 

It doesn't sound really melodically cohesive to me, and listening to the leak it may have been a little tinkered with.

I wouldn’t be surprised if all 3 of Mays solos were chopped up by Axl and Caram. 

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That second "hey" he does where he holds it out is now one of my all-time favorite vocals from Axl the way he sings that sends chills all through my body

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18 hours ago, The Glow Inc. said:

Why would anyone in his right mind choose to include If The World and Scraped over Perhaps and Hard School on Chinese Democracy and let these songs rot for eleven years on a hard drive ? Mind boggling...

It truly is mind boggling. I just don’t get it at all. Especially with regards to Hard School. That could have been an actual hit for the album. 

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26 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said:

That second "hey" he does where he holds it out is now one of my all-time favorite vocals from Axl the way he sings that sends chills all through my body

It's a classic Axl trademark, he did that kind of thing all the time on the UYI tour ("hey, hey, hey-hey yea" on KOHD came to mind instantly, the ad-libs on Nov Rain, etc.)

This song is definitely a 'bridge' between UYI II and CD, IMO. There's enough classic elements in there that it sounds something Axl would've worked on regardless of whether the UYI line-up stayed together. It sounds like a proper GNR progression, instead of Axl trying to progress the GNR sound, if that makes sense.

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14 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said:

It's a classic Axl trademark, he did that kind of thing all the time on the UYI tour ("hey, hey, hey-hey yea" on KOHD came to mind instantly, the ad-libs on Nov Rain, etc.)

This song is definitely a 'bridge' between UYI II and CD, IMO. There's enough classic elements in there that it sounds something Axl would've worked on regardless of whether the UYI line-up stayed together. It sounds like a proper GNR progression, instead of Axl trying to progress the GNR sound, if that makes sense.

Agree 100% ... I always felt the same about SOD & Prostitute 

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5 hours ago, DeadHorseinaComa said:

Could it be that the "chopped" solo Brian May was talking about in an interview is the one in Perhaps? 

It doesn't sound really melodically cohesive to me, and listening to the leak it may have been a little tinkered with.

Its not Brian May, it's Robin Finck playing it. But I have no clue what you're talking about. Its melody is perfectly fine to me, maybe you just cant hear it properly because of the mix?

 

4 hours ago, DTV88 said:

I wouldn’t be surprised if all 3 of Mays solos were chopped up by Axl and Caram. 

I'm sure they were. And that's not a problem IMO. 

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