Nick85 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said: I think I read somewhere that the version of Oklahoma/Berlin on these discs is just a piano instrumental, similar to As It Began. Would still be cool to hear tho! It's on the same CD as State of Grace & IRS, so I'd be surprised if it didn't. Would seem out of place, but what do I know lol Edited September 17, 2019 by sofine11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, sofine11 said: It's on the same CD as State of Grace & IRS, so I'd be surprised if it didn't. Would seem out of place, but what do I know lol That’s a good point actually. However, Axl did play Oklahoma for Rolling Stone Magazine in 2000, and they said it was just an instrumental. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Nygma Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Anybody got in touch with Zutaut and asked him about his locker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Edward Nygma said: Anybody got in touch with Zutaut and asked him about his locker? Is he even reachable? Is he on social media or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaddisonmoore Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) i Miss the old days of leaks Edited September 17, 2019 by kaddisonmoore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Nygma Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said: Is he even reachable? Is he on social media or something? Not sure. He might be starstruck from being played by Pete Davidson in The Dirt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 That song Perhaps is kinda catchy. Those CDs with the demos and these completed songs would make a really cool Chinese box set. I'd buy it, but not for $1000. Has anyone on here purchased the $1000 AFD release from last year? Is it the real autographs that make it worth that much? Are there real autographs with it? For a $1000 I would want Axl's actual concert worn bandana or something. ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 29 minutes ago, Edward Nygma said: Anybody got in touch with Zutaut and asked him about his locker? Very much doubt he would respond, most likely on advice from lawyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post YourMother'sDruthers Posted September 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2019 If anyone thinks people (myself included) wouldn’t pay 1000 bucks for all the unreleased cd material, think again. Just remember how many people bought a 30 year old album (AFD) with a couple of well circulated unreleased tracks, a key chain, and some pretend backstage passes. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, YourMother'sDruthers said: If anyone thinks people (myself included) wouldn’t pay 1000 bucks for all the unreleased cd material, think again. Just remember how many people bought a 30 year old album (AFD) with a couple of well circulated unreleased tracks, a key chain, and some pretend backstage passes. Not many people payed 1000 bucks for that crap. Soon enough they had to reduce that ridiculous price to half of it or even less than half, and not even then they sold too many boxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyWoodRose84 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 2 hours ago, life_247 said: You’d need to ask a lawyer or two - even then they might not all agree. Interscope/Geffen (or whoever owns it all now - I forget!) probably own the discs, Zutaut probably only had possession of them in legalistic terms (IE think like a work phone - you have it and use it but you don’t own it). But I’m really not 100% sure, also I’m from the UK (so are you looking at your profile pic) so US law could be quite different. It’s complicated by the physical disc and the license - they aren’t the same thing Who’s to say at this point any of the material was copy written. I mentioned when this whole thing was about to hit the fan that all of the material was obtained legally. Tom or whoever was in charge of his locker was notified that he had x amount of days before it was to be auctioned off. Someone fucked up. The buyer of the locker legally owns whatever he purchased. Whatever he did with the contents afterwards (selling, discarding) was also his legal right to do so. Nobody is going to jail over this. Lawyers will be the only ones getting rich over this with their bullshit letters that they will send back and forth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyWoodRose84 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 1 hour ago, CDogg said: That song Perhaps is kinda catchy. Those CDs with the demos and these completed songs would make a really cool Chinese box set. I'd buy it, but not for $1000. Has anyone on here purchased the $1000 AFD release from last year? Is it the real autographs that make it worth that much? Are there real autographs with it? For a $1000 I would want Axl's actual concert worn bandana or something. ha My friend who is one of the guys Axl gets his jackets from has the signed AFD from last year, original autographs, gifted to him by the band. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Nash Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, HollyWoodRose84 said: Who’s to say at this point any of the material was copy written. I mentioned when this whole thing was about to hit the fan that all of the material was obtained legally. Tom or whoever was in charge of his locker was notified that he had x amount of days before it was to be auctioned off. Someone fucked up. The buyer of the locker legally owns whatever he purchased. Whatever he did with the contents afterwards (selling, discarding) was also his legal right to do so. Nobody is going to jail over this. Lawyers will be the only ones getting rich over this with their bullshit letters that they will send back and forth. In the end you will lose a ton of money. I told you, you can't trust that guy. But we got new songs from this shit. I can't believe it was the only way ppl can access to new tunes. It's absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyWoodRose84 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, Russel Nash said: In the end you will lose a ton of money. I told you, you can't trust that guy. But we got new songs from this shit. I can't believe it was the only way ppl can access to new tunes. It's absurd. Hard to lose money when you have nothing invested 😉. But yes, I agree, it’s absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronartest2004 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 8 hours ago, killuridols said: I don't believe in "leaks" anymore. That was 15 years ago. Nowadays artist release a new song every two weeks and that's how it works. IMO, this is just a stunt from TB, to promote the upcoming shows. The timing is suspicious. I could also believe all those "random ass people" are connected to management or the record company and they function as non-traditional publicity when it's needed. I’ve always thought the same thing. Whereas I do believe some stuff has legitimately leaked, I do think that someone within the gnr camp sees to it that some of this material gets out. I always wondered if some of the leaks came from within the camp to pressure Axl to release material because the money was starting to dry up. New album= more touring = more money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJRemastered98 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, ronartest2004 said: New album= more touring = more money. it also = fans sattisfied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BN38416 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) Does anyone have the pictures of the CD demo tracklists?... (Taken by the seller of the material) I think there was some photos I saw at Reddit or someplace... Showed the year submitted for each track ... Just wondering if there's more....I'd like to see them please... Edited September 17, 2019 by BN38416 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Matinator Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Sad days, I was hoping for a few more leaks so we could build CDII out of them, but hey an EP's worth of new stuff is more than i expected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico-ferro Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 2 hours ago, BN38416 said: Does anyone have the pictures of the CD demo tracklists?... (Taken by the seller of the material) I think there was some photos I saw at Reddit or someplace... Showed the year submitted for each track ... Just wondering if there's more....I'd like to see them please... i think this is the one https://imgur.com/a/BbbE9MG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BN38416 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, nico-ferro said: i think this is the one https://imgur.com/a/BbbE9MG Thank you. Wow... That's a lot of unreleased material floating around.... Lucky dude that bought the storage unit that contained these unheard tracks..... Or this whole scenerio is just a plant by management trying to hype the upcoming tour... Edited September 18, 2019 by BN38416 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeeker Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 6 hours ago, rocknroll41 said: That’s a good point actually. However, Axl did play Oklahoma for Rolling Stone Magazine in 2000, and they said it was just an instrumental. Great catch - so "Oklahoma" might have just been a piano/instrumental piece Axl wrote, but there might have never been lyrics for it Who knows if "Berlin" even has lyrics There's another holy grail down the drain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, TheSeeker said: Great catch - so "Oklahoma" might have just been a piano/instrumental piece Axl wrote, but there might have never been lyrics for it Who knows if "Berlin" even has lyrics There's another holy grail down the drain I dunno, Axl was still talking about Oklahoma/Berlin as a song in 2008 like it was a work in progress.. A lot of these leaks feel like a work in progress, or as Buckethead described it, a loaf of bread in the oven not quite ready. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeeker Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Gackt said: I dunno, Axl was still talking about Oklahoma/Berlin as a song in 2008 like it was a work in progress.. A lot of these leaks feel like a work in progress, or as Buckethead described it, a loaf of bread in the oven not quite ready. Just give all the DAT tapes and masters to Trent Reznor and let him make an album out of it Trent Reznor Presents: Chinese Democracy That's what Axl originally wanted, anyway - let him remix it into something great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holographic Universe Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Gackt said: I dunno, Axl was still talking about Oklahoma/Berlin as a song in 2008 like it was a work in progress.. A lot of these leaks feel like a work in progress, or as Buckethead described it, a loaf of bread in the oven not quite ready. Bucket head said that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gackt Posted September 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 18, 2019 Just now, The Holographic Universe said: Bucket head said that? 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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