DownUnderScott Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 7 hours ago, lukepowell1988 said: How do people get hold of these " Set Lists" ? I mean that looks like something any cunt with Microsoft Word could have put together. I'm with you dude, anyone could have printed that off and stuck it up where it's extremely obvious as a joke. And no-one has evidence of Hardschool actually being rehearsed right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernardo_Seccadio Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) This is the song that sounds the closest to a CLASSIC GNR track since UYI. This and Perhaps. Hard school is closer to YCBM and Apetite stuff, and Perhaps is closer to Estranged, etc. With a Slash tone in the guitar, and his style of playing it could transport us directly to 1991 perception. For me there are so MANY points indicating that this would be the right song to start again this new "phase" of the band that the fact that it was shown in the SETLIST doesn't say much. It's the obvious choice. Aurally I would even say that if there is one song that is remanent from the the 1996/1997 sessions, this would be it. All of the aspects indicates in that direction. If I could advise de band one thing, I would say: just leave SLASH to put his "musical mojo" into the piece, just as how he did it during Illusions and you'll get a BOMB that would attract A LOT of attention immediately to the record. Starting with HARD SCHOOL would "say" to the overall audiences that you still GOT IT and that would allow you to open the music styles in the record. This is the reason why I believe that out of ALL LEAKS, this is the STRONGEST material. Because it is a link to the past without sounding self-plagiarism. Edited September 23, 2019 by Bernardo_Seccadio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Creed said: this might be a new song. does anyone know what 'GF' on the set list stands for? GF stands for Godfather, im pretty sure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Hard School, Chinese Democracy and Better are debatably the best traditional rockers on Chinese. These 3 at a concert would make the most sense, as they don’t seem as into playing the Chinese ballads anymore, recently omitting This I Love and putting the rest on an alt list. As a Chinese fan I can say I’d be happy if these were the only 3 songs played live, as much as I love the other tracks as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Creed said: youre right. thanks. but for some reason, they choose sth else. yeah. not sure why. oh well. probably just a jam. not a new song. 5 minutes ago, AxlRoseCDII said: Hard School, Chinese Democracy and Better are debatably the best traditional rockers on Chinese. These 3 at a concert would make the most sense, as they don’t seem as into playing the Chinese ballads anymore, recently omitting This I Love and putting the rest on an alt list. As a Chinese fan I can say I’d be happy if these were the only 3 songs played live, as much as I love the other tracks as well. Hopefully theyre phasing Chinese songs out to make room for new songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, rocknroll41 said: yeah. not sure why. oh well. probably just a jam. not a new song. Hopefully theyre phasing Chinese songs out to make room for new songs. I hope they would still play Chinese songs if a new album were to come out. They’re great songs and part of the Guns library with UYI and AFD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, AxlRoseCDII said: I hope they would still play Chinese songs if a new album were to come out. They’re great songs and part of the Guns library with UYI and AFD. Well I mean of course I still want that album to be represented in some shape or form at all the shows but if theyre gonna drop a new record at some point then they gotta make room for it on the set somewhere! Im sure no matter what ChiDem and Better will still continue to be played live at every gig, even if they dropped ten albums more. I think those two songs are pretty much "solidified" now for the shows the same way WttJ, SCOM, PC, NR, and YCBM all are. Edited September 23, 2019 by rocknroll41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said: Well I mean of course I still want that album to be represented in some shape or form at all the shows but if theyre gonna drop a new record at some point then they gotta make room for it on the set somewhere! Im sure no matter what ChiDem and Better will still continue to be played live at every gig, even if they dropped ten albums more. I think those two songs are pretty much "solidified" now for the shows the same way WttJ, SCOM, PC, NR, and YCBM all are. I wouldn’t mind if they cut KOHD, Black Hole Sun, LALD, Coma (as cool as it is they’ve kind of burned me on it and it’s long) to make room. But hey don’t want to turn this into a setlist discussion or anything lol. We got enough of those on the forum Edited September 23, 2019 by AxlRoseCDII 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlashisGOD Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I just want to hear Slash play The Blues. Goddamn fine song it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 hours ago, RussTCB said: I'm not a conspiracy theoriest BUT Hard School makes me wonder if that's the only leak TB has told Axl about so far. In that case, people should definitely start taking Mack Daddy signs to concerts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, SlashisGOD said: I just want to hear Slash play The Blues. Goddamn fine song it is. Rumor has it they don’t play it cause it’s about Slash, according to someone on this forum (can’t remember who exactly it was who said it but supposedly @RussTCB heard that rumor from somewhere too). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronartest2004 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) I remember when "going down" was on the setlist, Wasn't that great when they played it? Edited September 23, 2019 by ronartest2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Bob Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, ronartest2004 said: I remember when "going down" was on the setlist, Wasn't that great when they played it? they actually never played it lol they could posibily not even play hard school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Rose Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Fourteenbeers said: But weren't there illegal Gn'R videos on Porn Hub too? That would annoy him even more. Nah he'd just get Hard School. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimpy Hewitt Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, DownUnderScott said: I'm with you dude, anyone could have printed that off and stuck it up where it's extremely obvious as a joke. And no-one has evidence of Hardschool actually being rehearsed right? Guy who was at the show posted a video and he panned to sound mixing area and you could clearly see that exact same setlist that’s being discussed posted up Edit: here’s a link to the vid https://www.instagram.com/p/B2s5TItHuDK/?igshid=1finxfqvyt512 Edited September 23, 2019 by Gimpy Hewitt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Rose Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Towelie said: For some reason I thought you were Antipodean! Ah! Probably because back in the day of the old yellow MJNI board I visited a couple Smooth Criminals in Sydney and Canberra. Quite impressed I typed that on my phone after nine hours of drinking and forcing unsuspecting and uncooperative fuckers to listen to Hard School and Atlas +6db* Quite chuffed I managed to type that too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Rose Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, The Holographic Universe said: Yeah, but how often does Axl soundcheck a song? Less often than Nassim Harramein soundchecks the Universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said: Rumor has it they don’t play it cause it’s about Slash, according to someone on this forum (can’t remember who exactly it was who said it but supposedly @RussTCB heard that rumor from somewhere too). They play Sorry and the line "shut up and sing" is something Axl said Slash had said to him, so... I'm not sure if this holds too much water. I'd say they just chose to play other songs or simply forgot about it. It had been out of rotation for a while by the time the whole NITL thing came about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Tom2112 said: They play Sorry and the line "shut up and sing" is something Axl said Slash had said to him, so... I'm not sure if this holds too much water. I'd say they just chose to play other songs or simply forgot about it. It had been out of rotation for a while by the time the whole NITL thing came about. Good points, yeah. Axl said it was one of his favorites in 2006 tho. You’d think they’d play it all the time for that reason alone. 17 minutes ago, Uncle Bob said: they actually never played it lol they could posibily not even play hard school I think the person you quoted was just joking there. Edited September 23, 2019 by rocknroll41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Rose Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, The Holographic Universe said: Yeah, but how often does Axl soundcheck a song? Plenty!! Twenty times when he's working for Angus! When he's working for himself he soundchecks 20 Rustler Burgers. Ping! Edited September 23, 2019 by Jordan Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronartest2004 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, Uncle Bob said: they actually never played it lol they could posibily not even play hard school Thats what im saying, axl could list every single unreleased CD song and do a set of all AFD,LIES, & UYI songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draguns Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I'm thinking that Hard School is one of those songs from the 94-96 sessions that Sorum had mentioned. He did say that there were 14 songs. 7 were completed. Another 7 that were being worked on. I wouldn't be surprised if this was one of the songs being worked on at the time. It just has too much of a classic GNR vibe to it compared to the rest of the songs for CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyWoodRose84 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 5 hours ago, Jordan Rose said: Maybe a 16 sec clip here or there maybe came from Fernando's Brazilian pals aha? Nein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderram Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, sl4yer said: Hard School is my favorite GNR song. If they will play it live and Axl won’t suck and if they will release it with proper mastering and Slash tone I will be in heaven. A song that's only available via crappy leaked versions and was performed by AXL during a time when his voice was not the same as it once was is your favorite GN'R song? WTF? Some people strive waaaay to hard to be different. New Era GN'R millennials baffle me.... Edited September 24, 2019 by thunderram 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duwz Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 hour ago, thunderram said: A song that's only available via crappy leaked versions and was performed by AXL during a time when his voice was not the same as it once was is your favorite GN'R song? WTF? Some people strive waaaay to hard to be different. New Era GN'R millennials baffle me.... and some people just have a hard time accepting someone else's valid opinion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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