username05 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) I know he had some rage tweet a while back. Can someone tell me what actually had happened with him. Did he quit, was he kicked out,.... Also, were there any comments by any of the band members about his involvement in writing music and stuff. All I know is he cowrote silkworms... But other than that any info is vague. Edited October 5, 2019 by username05 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blackstar Posted October 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) Well, a couple of days after the official announcement of the reunion and Coachella, which mentioned only Axl, Slash and Duff http://www.a-4-d.com/t3273-2016-01-05-press-release-guns-n-roses-make-history-with-2016-return Pitman made a happy post in his social media: https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/additional_members_confirmed_for_gnr_reunion.html And then he said he was told by management to take it back: https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/gnr_members_ordered_by_management_to_deny_reunion.html Then, about six weeks later, he posted calling the reunion tour a cash grab and then deleted it https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/gnr_member_chris_pitman_blasts_reunion_tour_a_money_grab_fuck_you.html That was it. Not much is known about what happened behind the scenes. There was only an unverified rumour that he clashed with Duff (or both Slash and Duff). Later in 2016 he sued Axl for unpaid fees from 2011 (the lawsuit was settled a while later). ----------- It seems that Pitman didn't realise, like everyone else did, that things had changed after Slash and Duff were back, so he couldn't come to terms with the fact that he wasn't equal to them and that they actually were his bosses, too. Because other than that, judging from his first posts, he didn't seem to have any problems with the "nostalgia tour". Edited October 5, 2019 by Blackstar 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username05 Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 And from what I realise he later appologized. The whole thing doesn't make sense. But rarely they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blackstar Posted October 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Creed said: Slash and Duff have a NITL contract. Offically, Axl and TB are GnR. Do you have a source for that? Or is it just another rumour coming from "insiders"? This, though, is from an official document (recent lawsuit against Oscar Blues brewery), not a rumour: Edited October 5, 2019 by Blackstar 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Creed said: If this is the real deal, Duff and Slash are really back in GnR. I apologize. Here is the full document: https://www.docdroid.net/zZAOia1/20190509-gnr-vs-oscar-blues.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Blackstar said: Well, a couple of days after the official announcement of the reunion and Coachella, which mentioned only Axl, Slash and Duff http://www.a-4-d.com/t3273-2016-01-05-press-release-guns-n-roses-make-history-with-2016-return Pitman made a happy post in his social media: https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/additional_members_confirmed_for_gnr_reunion.html And then he said he was told by management to take it back: https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/gnr_members_ordered_by_management_to_deny_reunion.html Then, about six weeks later, he posted calling the reunion tour a cash grab and then deleted it https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/gnr_member_chris_pitman_blasts_reunion_tour_a_money_grab_fuck_you.html That was it. Not much is known about what happened behind the scenes. There was only an unverified rumour that he clashed with Duff (or both Slash and Duff). Later in 2016 he sued Axl for unpaid fees from 2011 (the lawsuit was settled a while later). ----------- It seems that Pitman didn't realise, like everyone else did, that things had changed after Slash and Duff were back, so he couldn't come to terms with the fact that he wasn't equal to them and that they actually were his bosses, too. Because other than that, judging from his first posts, he didn't seem to have any problems with the "nostalgia tour". Its cool to see that in order, thanks. Iirc there was one further post along the lines of 'Kids, drinking and FB dont go together' or something? I also like the unsubstantiated claim that Duff threw him up against a wall when Pitman showed up for rehearsal. Which, on the off chance that its a true story, would suggest that Axl didnt fire him (since he showed up for practice) and that maybe Duff did. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MaskingApathy Posted October 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, soon said: I also like the unsubstantiated claim that Duff threw him up against a wall when Pitman showed up for rehearsal. Which, on the off chance that its a true story, would suggest that Axl didnt fire him (since he showed up for practice) and that maybe Duff did. I would've loved to have seen that happen. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 How odd that he was told to take down his Coachella tweet by management, what was that all about? Didn’t seem like he’d fallen out with anyone at that point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username05 Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, soon said: Its cool to see that in order, thanks. Iirc there was one further post along the lines of 'Kids, drinking and FB dont go together' or something? I also like the unsubstantiated claim that Duff threw him up against a wall when Pitman showed up for rehearsal. Which, on the off chance that its a true story, would suggest that Axl didnt fire him (since he showed up for practice) and that maybe Duff did. Why would duff do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Just now, username05 said: Why would duff do that? The alleged incident took place after the socials posts, with one post mocking the request to not speak about Coachella by taking about it even more, and of course the "nostalgia tour... money grab, FU" post. The story, as Ive heard it, goes that Duff said something like 'thats my band youre taking about' or 'dont fuck with my band' I would agree that its an overreaction. A funny one though, imho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: How odd that he was told to take down his Coachella tweet by management, what was that all about? Didn’t seem like he’d fallen out with anyone at that point. Yeah, it's odd. Maybe they didn't want anything to come out yet about who else would be in the band besides Axl, Slash and Duff, because there were still negotiations and discussions about Izzy and the lineup in general. Or maybe there were some problems already at rehearsals at the time of his first tweet, and with that he wanted to say he was in the band. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, Blackstar said: Yeah, it's odd. Maybe they didn't want anything to come out yet about who else would be in the band besides Axl, Slash and Duff, because there were still negotiations and discussions about Izzy and the lineup in general. Or maybe there were some problems already at rehearsals at the time of his first tweet, and with that he wanted to say he was in the band. You can only assume that there was still some turmoil about the lineup beyond Axl, Duff and Slash at that point - even with Coachella booked. The stress Didn’t Richard say he was also kept in the dark until the last minute? (so to speak) Management obviously weren’t communicating with existing band members, could’ve just given them a heads up on not posting on social media yet. What a mess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blackstar Posted October 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2019 53 minutes ago, soon said: Iirc there was one further post along the lines of 'Kids, drinking and FB dont go together' or something? Right! About a week later: And now, the guy noted via Twitter: "I sincerely apologize to GN'R, especially the band and crew, for stupid comments about upcoming tour. Remember kids, don't drink n' text!" Looking at the comments, the fans aren't taking this one too well, calling Pitman a clown and telling him to get the funk out. https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/gnr_member_chris_pitman_apologizes_for_bashing_reunion_tour_i_was_drunk.html ------- I hadn't noticed this in the ultimate-guitar.com post about Pitman's tweets: Guns N' Roses Nostalgia Money Grab Fuck You 2016 Tour Dates: 04/08 - Las Vegas, NV - T-Mobile Arena 04/09 - Las Vegas, NV - T-Mobile Arena 04/16 - Indio, CA - Coachella Festival at Empire Polo Club 04/19 - Mexico City, MEX - Foro Sol04/20 - Mexico City, MEX - Foro Sol04/23 - Indio, CA - Coachella Festival at Empire Polo Club 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedYourIllusion Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 I wonder how pitman feels about Brain, since Brain and Melissa's connection, she essentially usurped Pitman out of the band, guaranteeing they wouldn't need his services.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azifwekare Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Blackstar said: Guns N' Roses Nostalgia Money Grab Fuck You 2016 Tour Dates: Wait... are you saying this wasn't the name of the tour? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonKinight Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 8 hours ago, Blackstar said: Well, a couple of days after the official announcement of the reunion and Coachella, which mentioned only Axl, Slash and Duff http://www.a-4-d.com/t3273-2016-01-05-press-release-guns-n-roses-make-history-with-2016-return Pitman made a happy post in his social media: https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/additional_members_confirmed_for_gnr_reunion.html And then he said he was told by management to take it back: https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/gnr_members_ordered_by_management_to_deny_reunion.html Then, about six weeks later, he posted calling the reunion tour a cash grab and then deleted it https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/gnr_member_chris_pitman_blasts_reunion_tour_a_money_grab_fuck_you.html That was it. Not much is known about what happened behind the scenes. There was only an unverified rumour that he clashed with Duff (or both Slash and Duff). Later in 2016 he sued Axl for unpaid fees from 2011 (the lawsuit was settled a while later). ----------- It seems that Pitman didn't realise, like everyone else did, that things had changed after Slash and Duff were back, so he couldn't come to terms with the fact that he wasn't equal to them and that they actually were his bosses, too. Because other than that, judging from his first posts, he didn't seem to have any problems with the "nostalgia tour". Feel sad for him. What a stab in the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denin Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Just to throw this into the mix; Quote it was confirmed yesterday that the band's festival lineup will feature three-fifths of their classic configuration: frontman Axl Rose, guitarist Slash and bassist Duff McKagan. Who else is involved is unconfirmed, although it's heavily rumored that the trio will team up with core players from GNR's modern-day incarnation—including guitarist Richard Fortus, drummer Frank Ferrer, and long-time keyboardists Dizzy Reed and Chris Pitman—and even potentially add Velvet Revolver guitarist Dave Kushner into the mix. Should also be noted that Dizzy's wife and Frank's friend posted Guns/Coachella related hints into social media around the same time as Pitman. Dizzy was quiet, Frank confirmed in a reply. So, technically, if tweeting got Pitman to trouble, it would've been unfair (and weird) to him next to Dizzy and Frank. He was the only one using his own account, sure. My best guess is something along the lines of what Blackstar said above; a want to reaffirm his job. He may have thought that working with Ax intensely in the studio a few years back had made him untouchable. Slash and Duff come in and think, 'Uh oh, another Paul Huge'. Pitman, for his part, looked to have had an attitude for services rendered since '98. S&D could've gone, 'We built this band, towel boy'. So, big money shows coming. Team Brazil's having a heart attack while fearing the worst with Ax. Lineup's in a flux, Axl wants his CD gang to stick around. Dizzy's a given, Richard's Gilby on steroids. Matt's not around, possibly to the chagrin of S&D, and certainly because Axl wants it so. He was also (apparently) still hankering a 3 gtr band, with Fortus maybe promoted to 2nd lead and Kushner playing rhythm. Amidst all this, Pitman tweets about the shows. S&D may have taken it as grandstanding and self-promotion, while they're trying to get the band together musically. Had Pitman felt insecure about things at the time of the tweet, the next rehearsals would've been worse. Duff could've plausibly confronted him. After a spat, their working relationship would've been totaled, and there would've been too much at stake for him to stick around. After that, Team Brazil would've called Brain, asking if he knew any keyboard players who'd like to tour. The money grab tweet happened likely after Pitman learned he'd been replaced. As with Ron, the band hit paydirt with Melissa on a short notice, given it's vital to have 3 guitarists or 2 keyboardists in Guns. TL;DR: "Axl's boy" -syndrome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseMan Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 12 hours ago, Blackstar said: Do you have a source for that? Or is it just another rumour coming from "insiders"? This, though, is from an official document (recent lawsuit against Oscar Blues brewery), not a rumour: Duff and Slash never left the partnership. Axl, Slash and Duff have been the sole GN'R partners since the 90's. This isn't a new thing. 11 hours ago, Creed said: If this is the real deal, Duff and Slash are really back in GnR. I apologize. They never left the GN'R partnership. Ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lame ass security Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) On 10/5/2019 at 8:17 AM, Blackstar said: Well, a couple of days after the official announcement of the reunion and Coachella, which mentioned only Axl, Slash and Duff http://www.a-4-d.com/t3273-2016-01-05-press-release-guns-n-roses-make-history-with-2016-return Pitman made a happy post in his social media: https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/additional_members_confirmed_for_gnr_reunion.html And then he said he was told by management to take it back: https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/gnr_members_ordered_by_management_to_deny_reunion.html Then, about six weeks later, he posted calling the reunion tour a cash grab and then deleted it https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/gnr_member_chris_pitman_blasts_reunion_tour_a_money_grab_fuck_you.html That was it. Not much is known about what happened behind the scenes. There was only an unverified rumour that he clashed with Duff (or both Slash and Duff). Later in 2016 he sued Axl for unpaid fees from 2011 (the lawsuit was settled a while later). ----------- It seems that Pitman didn't realise, like everyone else did, that things had changed after Slash and Duff were back, so he couldn't come to terms with the fact that he wasn't equal to them and that they actually were his bosses, too. Because other than that, judging from his first posts, he didn't seem to have any problems with the "nostalgia tour". It's really cool that Igazio Sixx Comito had Pitman's back. Just as important as Slash and Duff.😄 Edited October 6, 2019 by lame ass security 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 13 hours ago, Azifwekare said: Wait... are you saying this wasn't the name of the tour? It would be a smart name for the tour, actually, if they named it that themselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 4 hours ago, MooseMan said: Duff and Slash never left the partnership. Axl, Slash and Duff have been the sole GN'R partners since the 90's. This isn't a new thing. This is true. At the same time, though, Axl had a separate entity (NuGnR), so it could have been a different arrangement for the NITL tour, for example Slash and Duff partnering with Axl's entity. But it seems the old partnership has been reactivated as it was or has been amended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian girl Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Blackstar said: 10 hours ago, lame ass security said: It's really cool that Igazio Six Comito had Pitman's back. Just as important as Slash and Duff.😄 I know that guy Edited October 6, 2019 by Italian girl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 I personally love how he called it a money grab tour, nostalgia etc yet it was Pitman himself, interviewed in 2012, saying how Guns N' Roses didn't have to release new music. I'm also disappointed that the screens of his outburst at all of us here calling the forum "dildoes" haven't been posted. That's when I thought he took it too far 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Yes, for having his birthday wrong What an annoying guy. I'm so glad he's gone. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseMan Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 6 hours ago, Blackstar said: This is true. At the same time, though, Axl had a separate entity (NuGnR), so it could have been a different arrangement for the NITL tour, for example Slash and Duff partnering with Axl's entity. But it seems the old partnership has been reactivated as it was or has been amended. I don't know if GN'R are operating under the old partnership for the tour or not. They very well may be, but I don't think this lawsuit proves that they are. There were lawsuits during the Nu GN'R days where all 3 of them were plaintiffs as "GN'R". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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