papashaun Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 https://loudwire.com/guns-n-roses-ban-fan-rick-dunsford-song-leaks/ It is so....Looks like poor Rick isn't going to any shows in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson87 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 This was discussed to death in the Wichita show thread 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Yeah, it's been discussed to death already but we might as have one place for discussion seeing as more and more press outlets seem to be picking the story up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basic_GnR_Fan Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) I was going to say, eh not a big loss as you already know what the setlist will be...but now they are actually playing some deep cuts...sorry Chairman! Conspiracy Theory: They will now play deep cuts live to spite the Chairman. Thoughts? Edited October 10, 2019 by Basic_GnR_Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigzagbigbag Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, Basic_GnR_Fan said: Conspiracy Theory: They will now play deep cuts live to spite the Chairman. Thoughts? Yeah, right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastortine Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, Basic_GnR_Fan said: I was going to say, eh not a big loss as you already know what the setlist will be...but now they are actually playing some deep cuts...sorry Chairman! Conspiracy Theory: They will now play deep cuts live to spite the Chairman. Thoughts? If so, then we need to figure out how to get more leakers banned, and we need to do it before I see them Sunday night! If we get 10 banned do they break out something like 'Get in the Ring'? Sorry, to Rick, couldn't help myself. Although I consider GNR my favorite band I'm not the over the top fan that guys like Rick are, and I can't imagine not being able to go see them ever again... brutal... just brutal... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Only this dumbfuck regime would expect songs that have been collecting dust for nearly 20 years *NOT* to leak and freak out like this. You reap what you sow. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Basic_GnR_Fan said: I was going to say, eh not a big loss as you already know what the setlist will be...but now they are actually playing some deep cuts...sorry Chairman! Conspiracy Theory: They will now play deep cuts live to spite the Chairman. Thoughts? The Chairman isn't Rick though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MaskingApathy Posted October 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2019 Based on that article it seems like they were looking for Rick from the first show onwards. I still think that if he had kept quiet about buying the CDs none of this would've happened. He put a target on his back by bragging about it online. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 I wonder how aware Axl is about all of this? I mean adding Hard School to the setlist with our without the song itself leaking, I can't imagine he would not be aware it is out there along with the Village Session disks, but I am curious how clued in he is about it all like with the Rick situation and the storage locker story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskingApathy Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Just now, WhazUp said: I wonder how aware Axl is about all of this? I mean adding Hard School to the setlist with our without the song itself leaking, I can't imagine he would not be aware it is out there along with the Village Session disks, but I am curious how clued in he is about it all like with the Rick situation and the storage locker story Probably doesn't know all the stuff about Rick. I think this is all TB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Best way to publicize leaks? Create an interesting news event by threatening to have someone arrested for attending gigs. 1 minute ago, WhazUp said: I wonder how aware Axl is about all of this? I mean adding Hard School to the setlist with our without the song itself leaking, I can't imagine he would not be aware it is out there along with the Village Session disks, but I am curious how clued in he is about it all like with the Rick situation and the storage locker story I'm still convinced Hard School is on there as an in-joke, just like Oh My God was. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, allwaystired said: Best way to publicize leaks? Create an interesting news event by threatening to have someone arrested for attending gigs. I'm still convinced Hard School is on there as an in-joke, just like Oh My God was. Although Oh My God was for sure soundchecked in 2011 - there is that one video of it. But I can't imagine they would rehearse then soundcheck and add the song to their tour setlist for trolling purposes - that would be too cruel With Hard School I find it plausible because it is by far one of the most old-GNR sounding CD era outtakes we have heard and Slash has confirmed GNR has been working on new stuff lately Who knows if the leaks convinced them to finally add it though, the timing is really overlapping between the two 8 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said: Probably doesn't know all the stuff about Rick. I think this is all TB. That is what I am thinking, Axl knows what leaked but probably is hands off regarding all of this including Rick's banning. Edited October 10, 2019 by WhazUp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, WhazUp said: Although Oh My God was for sure soundchecked in 2011 - there is that one video of it. But I can't imagine they would rehearse then soundcheck and add the song to their tour setlist for trolling purposes - that would be too cruel With Hard School I find it plausible because it is by far one of the most old-GNR sounding CD era outtakes we have heard and Slash has confirmed GNR has been working on new stuff lately Who knows if the leaks convinced them to finally add it though, the timing is really overlapping between the two That is what I am thinking, Axl knows what leaked but probably is hands off regarding all of this including Rick's banning. Oh My God was sound checked?! I never knew that, let alone knew there was a video! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Just now, allwaystired said: Oh My God was sound checked?! I never knew that, let alone knew there was a video! Here you go! Rio 2011 soundcheck it looks like 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Azifwekare Posted October 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) When Rick went on every platform he could to tell everyone "Hi, my name's Rick Dunsford and I'm on my way to buy 19 CDs of unreleased music!", he really can't be suprised that he has fans on one side angry at him for hoarding and then TB on the other angry at him when the CDs he bought eventually leaked. I don't understand why he would put such a huge target on himself like that. It wasn't exactly a smart decision. Edited October 10, 2019 by Azifwekare 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, RussTCB said: Yeah, it's been discussed to death already but we might as have one place for discussion seeing as more and more press outlets seem to be picking the story up. As expected. We've been saying since we heard about what happened: this is newsworthy in itself, and now it will bring more attention to the leaks that the mainstream media overlooked. Way to handle a situation and generate a PR shitstorm, GNR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Just now, WhazUp said: Here you go! Rio 2011 soundcheck it looks like Oh sorry, I misread that- yeah I knew it was soundchecked back then. I was referring to it being an 'alt' for most of the NITL tour. No way was it ever going to get played! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Just now, allwaystired said: Oh sorry, I misread that- yeah I knew it was soundchecked back then. I was referring to it being an 'alt' for most of the NITL tour. No way was it ever going to get played! We said the same when we saw Slither in the alt setlist in 2017 - boom a year later there it was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Just now, Voodoochild said: As expected. We've been saying since we heard about what happened: this is newsworthy in itself, and now it will bring more attention to the leaks that the mainstream media overlooked. Way to handle a situation and generate a PR shitstorm, GNR. ...and what's also important is that 99 per cent of 'fans' don't care less about these leaks. Unreleased versions of CD era tracks and instrumentals really are the domain of forum-dwellers and obsessives. Even the 'new tracks' are greeted with indifference due to them featuring band members most 'fans' couldn't point out in a crowd. Doing things like this just gives publicity and fuel to something that would have burnt out quickly on it's own. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Voodoochild said: Way to handle a situation and generate a PR shitstorm, GNR. Yelp. This particular fuck up seems to be the work of TB, but it's still on GNR overall. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, StrangerInThisTown said: We said the same when we saw Slither in the alt setlist in 2017 - boom a year later there it was True.....but Slither always seemed far more believable than them playing Oh My God. It would take them playing it for me to believe it was ever even rehearsed and in contention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted October 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2019 In the end, all this news story is going to do is shed a ton of light on something that was a non-story. If I'm the average music fan hearing about this story, my takeaway would be "WAIT. THERE'S 19 CDs OF GNR STUFF OUT THERE??" Then I'd start searching. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azifwekare Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) Did Rick really expect TB to welcome him with open arms when he publicises buying material that would then subsequently leak? What exactly is the general public supposed to take away from this when they read these news stories? Don't get involved in the illegal market of buying and hoarding unreleased music or you'll get banned? Seems pretty reasonable tbh Edited October 10, 2019 by Azifwekare 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double talkin jive mfkr Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) i can't see why the band can be pissed its promotional what he did because none of the songs are worth anything to the band - not moneywise anyways it ignited a lot of interest from the CD bois which are few and far between Edited October 10, 2019 by double talkin jive mfkr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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