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How would Atlas and Hard School sound with Axl's voice now?

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1 hour ago, Gimpy Hewitt said:

To me, judging by the Europe leg and then the US run, he never had any voice cracks in Europe, then in the US towards the end his voice would start cracking on higher notes. It never did that prior. I could be wrong but I think the wear of singing those gnarly AC/DC songs ripped what he had left apart. Ever since a lot of times when he tries to rasp you’ll hear voice cracks.

I do believe that the AC/DC tour damaged his voice, especially the ability to reach higher notes. His voice never cracked so much in the past, he could reach high pitch screams in Better, This I Love, Out Ta Get Me, Paradise City, well, pretty much all the catalogue. But with songs like Back in Black, Thunderstruck, Shoot to Thrill, For Those About to Rock, i believe he went to far. You could hear his voice deteriorating as the tour went on.

By the end of the ACDC tour, things were never the same. He tried and tried, but it became impossible, every high note is on the verge of crack, so he had to resort on falsetto, or some mix/microphone shenenigan to cover his screams. 

People just have to accept that it's not a matter of effort, the guy is singing his ass off nowadays. Yes, he could sound better adjusting some songs, choosing a lower register. But some of the crazy high notes are just not there anymore. 

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28 minutes ago, Bozo said:

I do believe that the AC/DC tour damaged his voice, especially the ability to reach higher notes. His voice never cracked so much in the past, he could reach high pitch screams in Better, This I Love, Out Ta Get Me, Paradise City, well, pretty much all the catalogue. But with songs like Back in Black, Thunderstruck, Shoot to Thrill, For Those About to Rock, i believe he went to far. You could hear his voice deteriorating as the tour went on.

By the end of the ACDC tour, things were never the same. He tried and tried, but it became impossible, every high note is on the verge of crack, so he had to resort on falsetto, or some mix/microphone shenenigan to cover his screams. 

People just have to accept that it's not a matter of effort, the guy is singing his ass off nowadays. Yes, he could sound better adjusting some songs, choosing a lower register. But some of the crazy high notes are just not there anymore. 

Wrong. Listen to Shadow, Jungle and Nightrain 

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8 minutes ago, Gibsonfender2323 said:

Wrong. Listen to Shadow, Jungle and Nightrain 

Dude, i'm talking about high notes. In this songs there are SOME higher notes, but if u listen carefully there are some kind of "Echo/Effects" that are layered to Axl voice that are helping to hide the cracks there appear in these short moments. This NEVER happened before.

But there's no way to cover the damage in his voice in songs there are FULL of high notes, like This I Love, Out Ta Get Me, My Michelle, Prostitute. Guess what, these are songs that they dropped out of setlist.

Being able to "scream" a high note it's not the same to "sing" a high note. You need the ability to control your voice, and Axl seems to have lost that, at least in this higher registers. In the low zone, like in The Seeker, he's capable of singing in tune just fine.  

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12 minutes ago, Bozo said:

Dude, i'm talking about high notes. In this songs there are SOME higher notes, but if u listen carefully there are some kind of "Echo/Effects" that are layered to Axl voice that are helping to hide the cracks there appear in these short moments. This NEVER happened before.

But there's no way to cover the damage in his voice in songs there are FULL of high notes, like This I Love, Out Ta Get Me, My Michelle, Prostitute. Guess what, these are songs that they dropped out of setlist.

Being able to "scream" a high note it's not the same to "sing" a high note. You need the ability to control your voice, and Axl seems to have lost that, at least in this higher registers. In the low zone, like in The Seeker, he's capable of singing in tune just fine.  

They dropped them from the setlists because they wanted to. His voice has been cracking for the past 15 years He always has used echo effects,Thats the way the stadium is set up. He used the same vocal couch as Miles kennedy for AC/DC. If he actually did damage to his voice. He wouldn't be singing at all.  Damage to your vocal chords is what Jon Bon Jovi Did.  Robert Plant has to tune his songs all the way down. GNR still plays the songs like the record. If he did do damage to his chords he would NOT be singing right now. He has been sounding alot better on YCBM lately. that song has alot of high Notes 

From the China Exchange.

"I do a lot of vocal exercises and actually on this particular tour I brought my voice coach out with-  that I hadn't worked with in like twenty years. The Brian Johnson Back in Black stuff is really demanding, you know, sing it wrong and you might not be singing again. So…"

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25 minutes ago, Bozo said:

Dude, i'm talking about high notes. In this songs there are SOME higher notes, but if u listen carefully there are some kind of "Echo/Effects" that are layered to Axl voice that are helping to hide the cracks there appear in these short moments. This NEVER happened before.

But there's no way to cover the damage in his voice in songs there are FULL of high notes, like This I Love, Out Ta Get Me, My Michelle, Prostitute. Guess what, these are songs that they dropped out of setlist.

Being able to "scream" a high note it's not the same to "sing" a high note. You need the ability to control your voice, and Axl seems to have lost that, at least in this higher registers. In the low zone, like in The Seeker, he's capable of singing in tune just fine.  

Nah, I have heard him pull off Out ta get me, almost just as good as he did in 90s and this was in 2017 a year after the AC/DC run. 

I'm not saying singing like that, they way he did is good for your voice, but he isn't a fool. He realises that he needs top be able to sing to make money. He may be proud and maybe a bit crazy but he wasn't going to risk the rest of his career on one tour with AC/DC. His vocal troubles are down to preparation, and technique issues. The guy can still hit really high notes, outro of SCOM etc. In fact the majority of GNRs set is filled with Axl screaming and he manages. Also, screaming a high note with pitch and accuracy is still singing, just like singing with a clean vocal. And, every vocalist singing live uses delays, reverbs, compression etc. This isn't some Axl trick to mask bad singing.

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Atlas would be great, It'd sound like Catcher In The Rye.
But hardschool...

HADTIUBIAFUUU AND THROWIRIALL AWAY 
**GASPS FOR AIR** 
TO HARDSCHUUUUU 
**AIR**
ENYUTOUGHTYOUWERHIR 2 STAY 
**DESPERATELY GASPS FOR MORE AIR***

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The guy is nailing Shadow of Your Love every night. He was also nailing Back in Black.  For Hard School he will be more than fin.

Atlas is kinda like Catcher, so it should work

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The same as it is!

When are people going to understand that Axl chooses to sing like that (minimum rasp) in order to endure a 3 hour daily set?

Did you watch the AC/DC shows on YouTube? All 1h30 and Axl sings with a full on rasp!

So, aswering your question: on the record he will sound as good as old Axl, maybe mixing both styles as he did on ChiDem just not to sound too different live.

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They would most likely sound terrible.

Edit: If he sounds like shit so he can endure a three hour set, than I'd more than happy with an hour and half.

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Itll sound like shit. CITR doesnt even have rasp except for one line in the outro (and even that is minimal), only a nice clean voice. Axl still manages to sound like shit on it live. Same with Prostitute. Ontop of that,  he always cuts the words off short, or speed up the phrase. The phrasing is key, even if he uses distortion behind his voice

 

That being said, I would love to be proven wrong (by Axl). Ill still get excited seeing the songs being played though

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Hopefully Hardschool has been rearranged so that (among other things) there is some space between the verses and the chorus, which would make it sound better and easier for Axl to sing live.

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9 hours ago, zombux said:

and what would be the actual point of bringing back some 20 years old songs everybody forgot and even nobody of the band gives a shit? besides trying to monetize everything possible, while admitting own creative death.

The reason to bring back Hard School in particular is that its a song included as one of the alts on this leg meaning it has been considered

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I think he would do fine with Hard School probably just like all the other songs he would sounds good on some shows and not so great on others. Either way I would like to hear him try Hard School.

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10 hours ago, pbj_jam said:

shit.

Most honest answer yet. 

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What I wanna see is Slash's take on Hard School, I can imagine him doing volume swells on the intro.

But yeah Axl can nail Hard School if he sang it like Shadow.

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I think they have the potential to sound good, absolutely. I'm just concerned if they break out Dead Horse he'd sound like shit, cause that has a lot of high rasp notes.

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