Popular Post Mendez Posted November 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) I also had him listen to and drum to State of Grace, IRS, TWAT, Shackler's, Scraped, Prostitute, and Madagascar. With all of the tracks, I sent him drum and bassless versions so any rhythmic-locking-in that the bass track may have done would not influence them, while keeping all other instruments and vocals intact so he could feel the song Was curious how an outside entity would drum to songs that we more or less know without any influence of how the drums are supposed to sound. Recently a bunch of old demos of these songs leaked online but with a different drummer. He played the same rhythmic parts but with slight variations. so that made me think: how a different drummer would play the songs from scratch Soundcloud wouldn't let me upload the original instruments with vocals, so excuse my cover edit: replaced the cover, with an improved cover Thoughts? Update: On 11/11/2019 at 8:48 PM, Mendez said: He did Shackler's Revenge. He listened and played to an instrumental of only Buckethead's rhythm guitars with no metronome or anything. (to get a better idea of what he should play rhythmically, since the final product is already a convoluted mishmash of stuff) Since it was an instrumental, and the verse palm muted riff is supposed to be off rhythm from the drums, his initial instinct was to play along it ON rhythm (which then resulted in a more abrupt change into the verse since it essentially cut off part of the measure, making the last bar 7/4). When I later showed him that the guitar part was actually offbeat, his mind had already set himself to only play in sync with the guitar, and was very adamant about playing it in sync with the guitar, saying "sounded really weird when it came in with the guitar, sounded out of sync I think its much more impactful when the drums and guitar are on time with eachother. Just sounds better in general" "i dont think i want to play that, wouldn’t feel right. sounds way too unnatural for me, so you can just shift it when you have the stems and it will sound good still" So I then chopped and lined up what he sent me to the structure of the original song (made it off beat), but I also made a version of what he thought would sound better Both versions have have Bumblefoot's parts reduced, so it has more room to breathe His thoughts of the instrumental guitars" "its a very strange song haha" His thoughts on the original drums "it sounds awesome, like a whole different song. I definitely think its better than what i played. i liked that disco beat" On 11/23/2019 at 9:25 PM, Mendez said: Scraped has been drummed on as well. He listened to an instrumental version of the song without most of BBF's guitars (with the exception of the vocals that are left in the "other instruments" track of the multitrack) His thought's on the album version: "haha I did the exact same snare thing at 0:31, but damn that tom beat is sweet. i really like the original. the main beats are very different than what i played. i like that tom beat a lot though" Talking about the first verse riff and the chorus: "yea I was really feeling that bass line and felt it should be almost funky there. I thought how I did those big chorus's with the slower feel was cool. I notice in the original the tempo feel doesnt change" Edited December 30, 2019 by Mendez 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 1neophyte Posted November 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Mendez said: Thoughts? Maybe find something constructive to do with your time? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gordon Comstock Posted November 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 minute ago, 1neophyte said: Maybe find something constructive to do with your time? We're posting on a GNR forum, I think we're well past that. @Mendez I like it. 13 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mendez Posted November 3, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 minute ago, 1neophyte said: Maybe find something constructive to do with your time? I'd reckon that anyone who visits any fan site of any kind should find something constructive to do with their time as well 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeeker Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 They sound good! Did the mystery drummer enjoy the songs? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Sounded great. He seems kinda lost in the bridge before the chorus, but overall, he did pretty good. The guitars were well played too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) 52 minutes ago, TheSeeker said: They sound good! Did the mystery drummer enjoy the songs? TWAT - he said this song was awesome, and that the guitar solo was epic Prostitute - said it was a really cool song!, and he got Mars Volta vibes from it, mainly from the vocals. After he heard both Josh and Brains drums on the original(s), he said he thought the double kick drum part was sweet, "I’m not huge on the faster beat with it though tbh, i kinda preferred a slower heavier beat; i was going for more of a prog style with the drums where these versions sound more rock" I didn't ask him what he thought of Better Edited November 3, 2019 by Mendez 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powderfinger Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Sounds pretty good. Is this part of the “project” to add to the leaked tracks? 2 hours ago, 1neophyte said: Maybe find something constructive to do with your time? From the poster of the least constructive statement in this thread this far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Powderfinger said: Sounds pretty good. Is this part of the “project” to add to the leaked tracks? From the poster of the least constructive statement in this thread this far. No was just curious how a different drummer would drum to the guitar parts. I have 2 other tracks Edited November 3, 2019 by Mendez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
default_ Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Thats cool, I think I missed a more "bombastic" approach tho. This one were really straight forward. I got myself think what would Matt do with Better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 TWAT sounds really really cool. His idea for Robin's solo was cool, I just wish he had a more epic drum fill in there. It's interesting how the main beat sounds a lot like the original sometimes. Guess the other instruments make the lead for him to get the idea. Prostitute was very strange with the slower drum and the soft snare attack threw me off hahaha. It's cool to hear though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) His take on better makes it sound a lot more nu metal than the original. Edited November 3, 2019 by Tom2112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axlr0s37 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Are you going to upload tge other 2 tracks? Better was quite cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estrangedfx Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Any way to hear his TWAT and Prostitute? I quite enjoyed hearing that instrumental of Better. Guitar sounds good, too. Nice tone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Estrangedfx said: Any way to hear his TWAT and Prostitute? I quite enjoyed hearing that instrumental of Better. Guitar sounds good, too. Nice tone. Let me know what you think! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estrangedfx Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 22 hours ago, Mendez said: Let me know what you think! Wow. Hearing Prostitute like that, it just never occurred to me without the drum loops/beats, how different it could or would have sounded! It's interesting. At first it felt like the song lost some energy without the tempo of the the original drums, but it brings out more of the guitar with how he played it, very well.... Makes it more of a slow burner, a good thing and sounds pretty great when it goes heavy. See if he will do The Blues or something. Maybe Shacklers Revenge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estrangedfx Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) Also, did you ever let him hear the originals after he layed down his own drums? It'd be cool to hear his opinion on the difference in approach, especially Prostitute. Edited November 6, 2019 by Estrangedfx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted November 6, 2019 Author Share Posted November 6, 2019 On 11/2/2019 at 8:28 PM, Mendez said: TWAT - he said this song was awesome, and that the guitar solo was epic Prostitute - said it was a really cool song!, and he got Mars Volta vibes from it, mainly from the vocals. After he heard both Josh and Brains drums on the original(s), he said he thought the double kick drum part was sweet, "I’m not huge on the faster beat with it though tbh, i kinda preferred a slower heavier beat; i was going for more of a prog style with the drums where these versions sound more rock" I didn't ask him what he thought of Better 1 hour ago, Estrangedfx said: Also, did you ever let him hear the originals after he layed down his own drums? It'd be cool to hear his opinion on the difference in approach, especially Prostitute. See above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estrangedfx Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 20 minutes ago, Mendez said: See above Oh, ok. Cool observations. His rendition of Prostitute give it more of like, an Alice In Chains-Vibe with the heavy drums. Which sound different, but pretty great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul_craft Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I really dig his rendition of Prostitute, a way "darker" atmosphere with the slow and heavy drums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketdude_666 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Would like to hear, hit me please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior201 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 I would also like to hear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) He did Shackler's Revenge. He listened and played to an instrumental of only Buckethead's rhythm guitars with no metronome or anything. (to get a better idea of what he should play rhythmically, since the final product is already a convoluted mishmash of stuff) Since it was an instrumental, and the verse palm muted riff is supposed to be off rhythm from the drums, his initial instinct was to play along it ON rhythm (which then resulted in a more abrupt change into the verse since it essentially cut off part of the measure, making the last bar 7/4). When I later showed him that the guitar part was actually offbeat, his mind had already set himself to only play in sync with the guitar, and was very adamant about playing it in sync with the guitar, saying "sounded really weird when it came in with the guitar, sounded out of sync I think its much more impactful when the drums and guitar are on time with eachother. Just sounds better in general" "i dont think i want to play that, wouldn’t feel right. sounds way too unnatural for me, so you can just shift it when you have the stems and it will sound good still" So I then chopped and lined up what he sent me to the structure of the original song (made it off beat), but I also made a version of what he thought would sound better Both versions have have Bumblefoot's parts reduced, so it has more room to breathe His thoughts of the instrumental guitars" "its a very strange song haha" His thoughts on the original drums "it sounds awesome, like a whole different song. I definitely think its better than what i played. i liked that disco beat" Edited November 12, 2019 by Mendez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 On 11/9/2019 at 2:27 PM, Bucketdude_666 said: Would like to hear, hit me please! On 11/9/2019 at 2:59 PM, junior201 said: I would also like to hear Let me know what you think! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cantona Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Would love to hear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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