sl4yer Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I am surprised so many people complaing about the Autotune. His vocals are highly edited on records since 1995. There were songs where he sounded even less natural than on the new singles. Ozzy has always been one of my favorite artists and I really like “Ordinary Man”. Elton feature and Slash solo are really nice. I love Under The Graveyard and it makes me very emotional. “Ashes to ashes, watch me disappear”, considering his very rough last year are hitting me. Straight To Hell on the other hand is shitty in my opinion. Solo is mediocre, vocals sounds worse than on the other two, and the choir intro is totally unnecessary to me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl4yer Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 21 hours ago, moreblack said: It's Ozzy, there's been 0 magic since No More Tears. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnR Chris Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I'm not a musical expert. But isn't pitch correction completely different from autotune? Did Axl use autotune on CD or was it pitch correction? If you listen to the isolated Rock Band songs, you can really hear autotune in Sebastian Bach's "Sorry" vocals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, GnR Chris said: I'm not a musical expert. But isn't pitch correction completely different from autotune? Did Axl use autotune on CD or was it pitch correction? If you listen to the isolated Rock Band songs, you can really hear autotune in Sebastian Bach's "Sorry" vocals. I think you're right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 38 minutes ago, GnR Chris said: Can you elaborate a little on Bono and the mics? For what it's worth, I love "Ordinary Man." Sure. I cant find an interview were he acknowledges that the lower quality mics are indistinguishable from the high quality ones given the low-fi method that most fans listen to their music on. I think it was from ether All That You Cant Leave Behind of Atomic Bomb album cycles. Early iPod and loudness wars days. I'll keep looking for that! But heres at least references to Bonos studio mic choices, going back to Actchung Baby. The mics they referece are variations of the 'industry standard' for live rock vocals. According to the producer quoted here it seems that it started with a punk rock ethos. Again, I will try to find Bonos own statements on this from years later in the aughts. http://www.recording64.com/2014/08/13/can-you-record-pro-sounding-vocals-with-a-sm58-microphone-readers-question/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dario27 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 On 10/1/2020 at 2:16 PM, moreblack said: Nice solo, not the greatest ever but it'll work I like it a lot... i don't understand how everybody seems to think if Slash collaborates with any artist it must have a Novermber Rain or Sweet Child O' Mine solo.... why? i'm glad he's still recording releasing and playing with high quality, unlike most of his contemporary musicians... Even Zakk's been releashing shit for a while... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naupis Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, dario27 said: I like it a lot... i don't understand how everybody seems to think if Slash collaborates with any artist it must have a Novermber Rain or Sweet Child O' Mine solo.... why? i'm glad he's still recording releasing and playing with high quality, unlike most of his contemporary musicians... Even Zakk's been releashing shit for a while... If you listen to the solo you can here it saying the chorus. It was never intended to be a masturbatory effort on Slash's part (I love when he is allowed to just wail away but this wasn't the place. Song will likely be edited down to 4 minutes for radio, so we weren't going to get NR II. I agree whole heartedly with your point about people feeling he mails it in if there isn't a 2 minute epic solo when he is working on someone else's song with likely parameters. This was all about being tasteful, emotive and fitting into the song. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
default_ Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, GnR Chris said: I don't know. Seems to me if he wanted to, he could have probably participated in this song. Can you imagine Axl also doing a verse on "Ordinary Man"? I couldn't handle it. It would be as great as that Motorhead track with Ozzy and Slash. Missed oportunity. Edited January 11, 2020 by default_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl4yer Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 minute ago, default_ said: It would be as much as great as that Motorhead track with Ozzy and Slash. Missed oportunity. To be honest I don’t think Axl would fit very well. Ozzy and Elton both are 70+ and had a crazy lifestyles, and this song has a goodbye feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay410 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 3 hours ago, GnR Chris said: I'm not a musical expert. But isn't pitch correction completely different from autotune? Did Axl use autotune on CD or was it pitch correction? If you listen to the isolated Rock Band songs, you can really hear autotune in Sebastian Bach's "Sorry" vocals. You're correct but in general parlance people think it's interchangeable. Autotune generally applies correction to an entire track. This can be used subtlely to sharpen up some odd notes, or it can be cranked all the way up and that's how you can the T-Pain and Lil Wayne effect. Pitch Correction is more applied on an individual note basis, where you can adjust each syllable to put it in key or close. So the easy way to thing is that Autotune affects the entire vocal track, and pitch correction is used to fine tune pieces of the vocal track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dario27 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, Naupis said: If you listen to the solo you can here it saying the chorus. It was never intended to be a masturbatory effort on Slash's part (I love when he is allowed to just wail away but this wasn't the place. Song will likely be edited down to 4 minutes for radio, so we weren't going to get NR II. I agree whole heartedly with your point about people feeling he mails it in if there isn't a 2 minute epic solo when he is working on someone else's song with likely parameters. This was all about being tasteful, emotive and fitting into the song. I like that word, masturbatory hahaha, Cheers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnR Chris Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, TeeJay410 said: You're correct but in general parlance people think it's interchangeable. Autotune generally applies correction to an entire track. This can be used subtlely to sharpen up some odd notes, or it can be cranked all the way up and that's how you can the T-Pain and Lil Wayne effect. Pitch Correction is more applied on an individual note basis, where you can adjust each syllable to put it in key or close. So the easy way to thing is that Autotune affects the entire vocal track, and pitch correction is used to fine tune pieces of the vocal track. I'm out of reactions today, but I appreciate you taking the time to explain. Thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYWIFEMYLIFE Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 I want Axl to sing everything and Slash to play everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djones1225 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Well since we dont have the rest of the tracklisting for Ozzy's new album, who knows maybe Axl might be a guest a song but I'd say that theres a 1% chance of that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vloors Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 On 10/01/2020 at 5:11 PM, Ninjapie24 said: Ozzy with Elton John, nothing more needs to be said Much better solo and guitar work here from slash. Tone sounds better too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Trevor Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 autotune is a product/brand of pitch correction/modulation made by antares that has become a blanket term for vocal pitch correction. Melodyne is the absolute best pitch correction software now imo, easier to use and cheaper for what you can do with it. The autotune sound ala T-Pain or Cher or whatever can be made in Melodyne and its actually really nice to subtly layer underneath vocals that ARENT pitch corrected to give a better sense of melody, but when you double up a pitch corrected vocal it ends up sounding like recent Ozzy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl4yer Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 3 hours ago, djones1225 said: Well since we dont have the rest of the tracklisting for Ozzy's new album, who knows maybe Axl might be a guest a song but I'd say that theres a 1% chance of that happening. Features are already known. Slash, Tom Morello, Elton John and Post Malone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djones1225 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, sl4yer said: Features are already known. Slash, Tom Morello, Elton John and Post Malone Damn, didn't know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMAC20 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Slash killed it on both Songs 2 different songs - 1 is a rocker and the other is mid Tempo Slash killed it on the wah wah bluesy solo And then the reason he is Slash - He fucking nailed it with Ordinary Man - The solo is Epic It sounds like a old Gnr Type solo and I love it 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanecrescente Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Well... safe to say Ordinary Man is a fucking masterpiece 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post marlingrl03 Posted January 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2020 I put this in the unofficial social media thread but thought I should put it here too. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djones1225 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 hours ago, TMAC20 said: It sounds like a old Gnr Type solo and I love it Gives me hope for some badass solos on a new GNR record (if we get one) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djones1225 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 The song reminds of I Ain't no Nice Guy, which isn't a bad thing, but makes me miss Lemmy. The song is a fucking masterpiece though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manfisman Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I'm really liking all singles from Ozzy so far. My least favourite is the second one, but they're all good. This one the lyrics really hit you and the overall feeling really goes with it. Yes, it sound processed, but Ozzy´s voice is ALWAYS processed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swedish Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Really interesting musician take on the song! No, this is not a video that sucks like those vocal coach videos. It's actually good, informative and interesting! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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