Dangelus Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 I joined in 2006 yet only have 565 posts, lol I’m a lurker... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double talkin jive mfkr Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 31 minutes ago, GNRfanMILO said: Team Brazil always wanted to get rid of the hardcore fanbase. The reunion was the perfect excuse because they don't really need us anymore. 5 years ago it was us vs them, we were the only ones supporting Axl's vision of nuGNR and filling the semi-empty arenas. This is how they thank us. Treating us as the enemy and hiring psycopaths for preventing us from sharing videos of our favourite band. The way Beta answered to Margott was the icing on the cake. But guess what, @Fernando, once the reunion gets old (and it will, unless you start taking your job seriously) it will be just you and us again. No other band on Earth treats their most hardcore fans they way you treat us. spot on...except the reunion hasn't gotten old?? they started in first division there in 3rd now heading to 4th 2014 zone sooner than later...the only thing would be the original 5 and i don't see how izzy or steven would want to deal with @fernando ever again so as it says in it ain't the first...'well we fucked' and as for new music - what a pipe dream - the reddit account was something to try and hold us over but it was very bich move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRANSAD Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 As much as it sucks that videos are taken offline, in the end, it is copyrighted material and i wanna respect that. What bothers me so much is the way this whole thing is being executed with several innocent people posting a clip from a gig they've been to which leads them to lose their channels. If TB, UMG or GNR would have just made a statement that they don't want their videos online it would all be much more acceptable. But instead of that they just keep denying being behind it all, saying they don't know who's doing it, but it's not a fan and it will continue and even worse admitting it's good free promotion but yet still keep blocking the vids. It's a big failure to wipe out anything gnr related from the webs as it will stop generating new fans of this band. In about 1.5 years from now, Europeans are fucked anyways because Europe has approved new copyright laws that will change the internet forever. As for a solution, it's actually pretty simple just change the host as there are many DMCA ignoring hosts available that will ignore any incoming takedown requests. Flaunt7, for instance, "Flaunt7 will keep your servers online no matter what. In addition Flaunt7 protects your servers from DMCA, your competitors, authorities, burglars and governments. We cherish free speech and will stand behind your site." 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 43 minutes ago, FRANSAD said: As much as it sucks that videos are taken offline, in the end, it is copyrighted material and i wanna respect that. But it isn't copyrighted material at all. There's absolutely nothing illegal about posting fan shot videos of live shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRANSAD Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Dazey said: But it isn't copyrighted material at all. There's absolutely nothing illegal about posting fan shot videos of live shows. Any live performance, when caught on a tangible medium, is the intellectual property of the performer NOT the person doing the recording. Don't get me wrong i'm not defending copyright laws or whatever and i love live footage as i shot a few complete gnr gigs myself but as long as the songs are somehow copyrighted your recording is, at best, a derivative work. Edited November 28, 2019 by FRANSAD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantomas Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) This is a crackdown because Axl's live performances are a shell of what they once were. Edited November 28, 2019 by fantomas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantomas Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, FRANSAD said: Any live performance, when caught on a tangible medium, is the intellectual property of the performer NOT the person doing the recording. Here's an interesting article on bootlegging. Gotta admit, there's some stuff I didn't know in there. https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/7724330/phone-recordings-concerts-illegal-federal-bootlegging-laws 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 27 minutes ago, fantomas said: Here's an interesting article on bootlegging. Gotta admit, there's some stuff I didn't know in there. https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/7724330/phone-recordings-concerts-illegal-federal-bootlegging-laws Me either. I’m actually really surprised with that. I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Fuck Guns N' Roses, Team Brazil and the crazy portions of the online fandom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double talkin jive mfkr Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 9 hours ago, fantomas said: This is a crackdown because Axl's live performances are a shell of what they once were. This x100 9 hours ago, FRANSAD said: Any live performance, when caught on a tangible medium, is the intellectual property of the performer NOT the person doing the recording. Don't get me wrong i'm not defending copyright laws or whatever and i love live footage as i shot a few complete gnr gigs myself but as long as the songs are somehow copyrighted your recording is, at best, a derivative work. i've enjoyed many of your videos prior to the take downs excellent work regardless of legal red tape 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willl Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 9 hours ago, fantomas said: Here's an interesting article on bootlegging. Gotta admit, there's some stuff I didn't know in there. https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/7724330/phone-recordings-concerts-illegal-federal-bootlegging-laws Thanks for the link, good read I read a book recently called "Bootleg: The Secret History of the Other Recording Industry" all about how the bootleg music industry got started. How they got the records, who made the artworks, who was pressing the discs, who was buying etc. Really interesting, you might like it Theres a PDF on Google but not sure I can link to it here due to the new policy re: copyright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) I’d put up a warning banner saying "This forum contains material which some so-called fans may find objectionable. They can F?!* OFF and go pester some forum from the New Age section." Edited November 29, 2019 by jamillos 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Azifwekare Posted November 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2019 Can we ban Fernando and his alt accounts? Fuck you, @Fernando. 8 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeeker Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Prune accounts that haven't posted in over a year That includes Axl - I'm glad he came here to cry about the fans and Slash after defending his idiot son from HATEFUL WORDS in 2008, but overall he shouldn't have any kind of special privileges if he's not going to contribute to the community 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 I don't think sequestering the forum into "secret sections" is the way to go. Regardless of whether this is done by granting members access by post count, tenure, standing, etc. The result will result in much less activity and interest for the public/open areas, and slowly kill off the forum. There are no simple solutions to this problem, nor ideal solutions. What we suffer from continuing without live videos on the forum is simply that we have to find these videos directly on youtube, or other places, rather than on the forum. This is of course fucking annoying in concert threads and elsewhere, but not as bad as the what I think will be the eventual fallout from starting to divvy up the forum into sections for the have and the have-nots. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said: You're just mad the solution isn't consuming vast quantities of fish cum. (Inside joke. He literally eats fish cum irl and probably brings whole new meaning to 'fish pie'.) lol fish cum irl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 That's a good name for a band, fish cum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Opening act, Guzzling Fish Cum. Punk, I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 34 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: Opening act, Guzzling Fish Cum. Punk, I reckon. Naa, they were surely part of the New Romantic movement?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-p-d-a Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 We should rename the Forum in mygvfforum to discuss about Greta Van Fleet. GVF is the new shit. GVF works on a new album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SAU3R Posted December 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2019 30 minutes ago, t-p-d-a said: GVF is shit Fixed that for you 3 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Jaro- Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 8 hours ago, SAU3R said: Fixed that for you Still better than anything GNR did last 20 yrs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantomas Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 GVF reminds me of a Zeppelin cover band fronted by a Hobbit. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 5 hours ago, -Jaro- said: Still better than anything GNR did last 20 yrs... Thankfully GVF has absolutely nothing to do with GNR and less to do with this thread, so let's get back in topic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANEK Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Tryin to pump up my numbers. Apparently I’d need a good 2900 more posts to be a part of the club despite the fact I’ve been to dozens of shows and check this site multiple times a day for maybe the last 13 years. Talk about limiting or alienating the fan base. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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