fanfzero Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 10 hours ago, Coma16 said: "Fuck GNR" - Bumblefoot If bumblefoot was still in the band I'm sure he would have at least say wtf is going on here to management for this 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 35 minutes ago, fanfzero said: If bumblefoot was still in the band I'm sure he would have at least say wtf is going on here to management for this Bumble knew how things were going and where they were going. he left for good and doesn't want to have anything to do with that pathetic bunch of fat cash grab jerks. no wonder, I would also run away as fast as I could. this is pretty much the same situation as if you spend some time together with a psychopathic girl/boyfriend and after this experience you better forget everything and erase that era from your memory for good, never to return again. (let me use this opportunity and say "thank you, Bumble!") 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted December 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 hours ago, KURT19 said: I truly appreciate this forum but I think that this is the last straw for me. I’m done with this band. It will be healthy to just move on. Thanks for the memories... I've honestly been done with the band for a little over a year. There's a few users here who can attest to the fact that I've spoken to people in private for around a year now about possibly leaving the forums. I started leaning that way just before all of this BS started with our site being directly attacked. The few people I talked to about it reminded me how the community itself is worth so much more than the band. Then all of this shit started and it really seemed like way more trouble than it was worth. Again, I was reminded that fighting for this site is a lot more about fighting for the community than it is fighting to keep a GN'R forum running. I just started posting even more in My World, then I started contributing more to the Seen That Movie Too section as well. I'd go so far as to say 80% of my posts in the GN'R section over the past year have had to do with responses to the site being attacked. Even taking into consideration all of the discussion regarding the leaks, I'd say the great majority of my posts in this section were about what's happening with attacks on fans and this site. GN'R just doesn't interest me much anymore and hasn't for at least a year. However, the site itself interests me a great deal and more so the friends I've made through here. I've had users from many corners of the world over to my house to spin records, solely because of this site. That alone makes the community worth fighting for, at least for me. Side note- we have absolutely NO intention of shutting down discussion of previous leaks or (God willing) any future leaks that may come our way. TBs notion that allowing discussion of the leaks is just as bad as allowing links to them is not only dead wrong, but completely irrational. I'm so beyond thankful that downzy posted that bit of information. It gives all of you a small bit of insight into the ridiculous crap that we as a leadership team deal with. We get accused regularly of being under the influence of TB and/or censoring our site at the request of TB. In the past, all I've done is told people that I can assure them that's absolutely not true. It was never my place to reveal information I'd been privy to, and I totally understood why downzy wouldn't either. I can't stress enough that the line of thinking TB presented us with here (discussing the links is just as bad as allowing links) is a small insight into the ridiculous things we've heard from them, but never had any sort of desire to comply with. If/when more leaks happen, our stance will remain the same: no links, but discuss them all you like. Any other stance is just absurd (no shitty Silkworms pun intended). TL;DR- The community itself is worth sticking around and fighting for, and TB couldn't be more wrong in their view and treatment of the fan base if they tried. 9 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) This band doesn’t deserve an active forum celebrating their legacy. To the mod team, have you guys ever considered focusing on ever making this more of a straight up media centered forum? Putting other sections first and moving GNR to a subsection, changing the title and adding some more sections to Anything Goes, Seen That Movie, etc. What even is there to talk about GNR in 2019, barring the leaks? Another Welcome to the Jungle performance with two lines of rasp? Another 15 shows with the same setlist and no passion by soulless performers? If they didn’t add Dead Horse and Locomotive, and keep in mind it isn’t always a guarentee they’ll add things (especially considering they’re running out of deep cuts to add), there would’ve been nothing new to talk about over an entire leg. Guns offers almost nothing new or of interest. Edited December 3, 2019 by AxlRoseCDII 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfanMILO Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, AxlRoseCDII said: This band doesn’t deserve an active forum celebrating their legacy. To the mod team, have you guys ever considered focusing on ever making this more of a straight up media centered forum? Putting other sections first and moving GNR to a subsection, changing the title and adding some more sections to Anything Goes, Seen That Movie, etc. What even is there to talk about GNR in 2019, barring the leaks? Another Welcome to the Jungle performance with two lines of rasp? Another 15 shows with the same setlist and no passion by soulless performers? If they didn’t add Dead Horse and Locomotive, and keep in mind it isn’t always a guarentee they’ll add things (especially considering they’re running out of deep cuts to add), there would’ve been nothing new to talk about over an entire leg. Guns offers almost nothing new or of interest. Yeah it’s not like Axl is sounding amazing or we’re getting new singles every month or a Blu-ray of the tour to justify this shit. Slash being back is not enough. Give me flying pianos and endless Vegas residences if that allows us to freely share bootlegs again (or even upload fucking videos to YouTube!). Even with all the negative aspects, Gn’R still had a healthy relationship with it’s hardcore fanbase by 2014. Bumble and DJ made that job way easier. The reunion was interesting until 2017, after that Team Brazil noticed that they don’t need their hardcore fanbase anymore. We got two free radio streams of their shows back then and we were able to openly share them with the people who didn’t have a SiriusXM subscription. They literally threw us in the trash can after that. Edited December 3, 2019 by GNRfanMILO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, AxlRoseCDII said: This band doesn’t deserve an active forum celebrating their legacy. To the mod team, have you guys ever considered focusing on ever making this more of a straight up media centered forum? Putting other sections first and moving GNR to a subsection, changing the title and adding some more sections to Anything Goes, Seen That Movie, etc. What even is there to talk about GNR in 2019, barring the leaks? Another Welcome to the Jungle performance with two lines of rasp? Another 15 shows with the same setlist and no passion by soulless performers? If they didn’t add Dead Horse and Locomotive, and keep in mind it isn’t always a guarentee they’ll add things (especially considering they’re running out of deep cuts to add), there would’ve been nothing new to talk about over an entire leg. Guns offers almost nothing new or of interest. Why? I'm sure TB and the trolls would be thrilled to hear that. Getting rid of MYGNR is at least the trolls' main objective. When I started reading the forum in 2013 there was nothing going on. At some point we didn't even know if GNR was even alive. And even then people had stuff to talk about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, GNRfanMILO said: Yeah it’s not like Axl is sounding amazing or we’re getting new singles every month or a Blu-ray of the tour to justify this shit. Slash being back is not enough. Give me flying pianos and endless Vegas residences if that allows us to freely share bootlegs again (or even upload fucking videos to YouTube!). Even with all the negative aspects, Gn’R still had a healthy relationship with his hardcore fanbase by 2014. Bumble and DJ made that job way easier. The reunion was interesting until 2017, after that Team Brazil noticed that they don’t need their hardcore fanbase anymore. We got two free radio streams of their shows back then and we were able to openly share them with the people who didn’t have a SiriusXM subscription. They literally threw us in the trash can after that. THEY GAVE YOU LOCOMOTIVE AND DEAD HORSE YOU UNGRATEFUL MONSTER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, GNRfanMILO said: Yeah it’s not like Axl is sounding amazing or we’re getting new singles every month or a Blu-ray of the tour to justify this shit. Slash being back is not enough. Give me flying pianos and endless Vegas residences if that allows us to freely share bootlegs again (or even upload fucking videos to YouTube!). Even with all the negative aspects, Gn’R still had a healthy relationship with it’s hardcore fanbase by 2014. Bumble and DJ made that job way easier. The reunion was interesting until 2017, after that Team Brazil noticed that they don’t need their hardcore fanbase anymore. We got two free radio streams of their shows back then and we were able to openly share them with the people who didn’t have a SiriusXM subscription. They literally threw us in the trash can after that. But it's not TB keeping us from uploading videos. That's silly. In 2014 the troll was a member on here. He was in MYGNR podcasts FFS. It's silly to think they would give up the fight just because the focus would change. It's not about videos, it's about destroying the forum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Maybe Walker and Mojo are doing this because they truly believe that when all the "unwanted beavior" stops, GnR will release music again. What fools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Im a little stressed about accidentally posting unofficial sources. Mostly because how some peoples handles arent straight forward, i.e. "themellisareese" or "GilbyGTR." So if someone were to accidentally mistake a YT channel for something official and posted it in good faith, would they be in trouble? I mean by a band other than Guns, thats too scary to risk, but for other bands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, Lio said: Why? I'm sure TB and the trolls would be thrilled to hear that. Getting rid of MYGNR is at least the trolls' main objective. When I started reading the forum in 2013 there was nothing going on. At some point we didn't even know if GNR was even alive. And even then people had stuff to talk about. Yeah, this is getting ridiculous. The main GN'R section seems to be alive enough to me,even if we can't embed YouTube videos anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfanMILO Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Lio said: But it's not TB keeping us from uploading videos. That's silly. In 2014 the troll was a member on here. He was in MYGNR podcasts FFS. It's silly to think they would give up the fight just because the focus would change. It's not about videos, it's about destroying the forum. What I’m saying is, had this happened in 2014 when Gn’R was a much smaller band, Team Brazil probably would’ve done something about it. They had much more to loose back then. They needed us, who do you think was paying for their half-empty casino shows? And don’t forget the people who are not in this forum (there are a lot of hardcore fans on Facebook groups and other forums). Now they have silly expensive merch and an army full of blind casual fans who will buy and won’t bitch to cover it all up. Edited December 3, 2019 by GNRfanMILO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabrph5 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 11 hours ago, Flake said: "I'll repeat: the main priority with GNR these days is to make money. It's become my impression that concerns about the fans or music in general are a distant priority, if even at priority at all." so you think there'll be no new music? so you work NOT to make money? Every bands goal is to make money. Only the ones that dont, pretend they dont care about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 28 minutes ago, soon said: Im a little stressed about accidentally posting unofficial sources. Mostly because how some peoples handles arent straight forward, i.e. "themellisareese" or "GilbyGTR." So if someone were to accidentally mistake a YT channel for something official and posted it in good faith, would they be in trouble? I mean by a band other than Guns, thats too scary to risk, but for other bands? We have NO intention on punishing the users of the site for accidents like this 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 50 minutes ago, fabrph5 said: so you work NOT to make money? Every bands goal is to make money. Only the ones that dont, pretend they dont care about it My god man, get your head out of your ass. Nobody is begrudging the band to make money. It's only problematic, when that becomes the only/major directive and everything else be damned.. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 52 minutes ago, fabrph5 said: so you work NOT to make money? Every bands goal is to make money. Only the ones that dont, pretend they dont care about it nobody really "works" in the cheap merch brand called GNR. and what @Flake wrote was "primary", not "only". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double talkin jive mfkr Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 11 hours ago, downzy said: Yeah, I've thought of this, but it's not a cheap proposition. Moreover, I don't see it necessary since we do not violate any laws or subject ourselves to any civil litigation as we currently operate. We have zero tolerance policies with respect to distribution of copyright materials and do our very best to enforce them. Anyone familiar with our reputation outside of this forum can reiterate how we're known for being very strict with respect to policy violations. so whats the biggest problem then - to me the only obvious explanation for the behavior of these paid trolls and TB is to hoard and protect axl's shot voice from affecting future ticket sales because all they have left in their pocket is touring before any imminent classic releases, which I wouldn't be surprised if they are buried forever...fucking dicks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, username said: Maybe Walker and Mojo are doing this because they truly believe that when all the "unwanted beavior" stops, GnR will release music again. What fools. Tempting, but I’d say looking for reason or logic existing behind this is futile. In cases like this, it usually goes down to mental issues... and their ventilation/compensation in the external world. One doesn’t have to be an expert to see some strong evidence that this is the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeeker Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Live Like a Suicide said: GNR needs an album to keep the tour and money train rolling. Nah - they're going to run the reunion tour into the ground over the next decade Only reason the reunion happened was because Vegas residencies and 3000-seat theaters were all that was left for GNR in 2014 They'll get to that point again, but they can coast for a few years by continuing to whore the reunion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, jamillos said: Tempting, but I’d say looking for reason or logic existing behind this is futile. In cases like this, it usually goes down to mental issues... and their ventilation/compensation in the external world. One doesn’t have to be an expert to see some strong evidence that this is the case. Depressing, but probably true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FuriousStyles Posted December 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2019 At this point, I'm more happy to support MyGNR over the ACTUAL Gn'R 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, username said: Maybe Walker and Mojo are doing this because they truly believe that when all the "unwanted beavior" stops, GnR will release music again. What fools. a psychopath always thinks he's right in what he's doing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarpatch Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Outside of posting lyrics, the premise that anyone could be held legally responsible for discussing songs is straight up laughable. It would be a waste of everyone’s time in any court setting to pursue action for any of this on any level. The PR damage would be catastrophic to even broach it Yeah this band wants to make $. That’s the entire point of this regrouping. Anything new or forward that comes out of this is ancillary. When guarantees get below their time and effort, they’ll pay Izzy, Adler and Sorum and go around again. That being said there is work to that. It’s a big $ maker right now. Doesn’t matter a dime if we support it or not....outside of $1k box sets that were directed at this part of the fanbase YouTube is an issue across entertainment right now. The two individuals are just taking advantage of the current situation. Eventually this will all get sorted and the process streamlined. Maybe then we’ll truly know their stance as there’s nothing/no one to hide behind Keep calling them out for their practices. Do it in their social accounts. That’s the only way to make them raise an eye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, FuriousStyles said: At this point, I'm more happy to support MyGNR over the ACTUAL Gn'R Excelent choice of gif. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangelus Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 RIP GNR. Absolute shortsighted greed. Imagine being a band and not wanting the buzz of your fans talking about your videos or excited about your next album. Younger bands would kill for the kind of fandom GNR has. They are absolutely not worth it, Axl, Slash and Duff can all go fuck themselves. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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