F*ck Fear Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I prefer Elvis, but Chuck Berry was the real King. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) Elvis is the one who made it so that we're sitting here talking about rock n roll today, the face of it, the thing that was needed to make it an international cultural phenomenon. The musical aspect Chuck covered, not just musical but lyrical too, teenage stories, teenage concerns, cars, birds and sex. Little Richard is the soul and spirit of it. None of em could belt out a tune like Rich. In fact no one ever has been able to belt out a tune like Rich, Rich' took it to that place where like...the fuckin' nth degree, where it sounded proper subversive and rebellious, this raving flash poof screeching hollering at the top of his lungs like he's out of his mind. People have come close to Rich'...but no ones topped him. Edited December 9, 2019 by Len Cnut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontdamnmeuyi2015 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 They say Elvis, but there were musicians ahead of him that he learned from. Does there have to be a KING of anything? There are so many amazing musicians who made rock and roll great and continue to do it. Rock and roll will never die! I'm so happy about that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Hate to say it but I find the genre completely dead. But people will continue to listen to Elvis, Little Richard and Chuck - and their successors, Stones, Who and so forth - so in that sense rock n' roll will never die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Hate to say it but I find the genre completely dead. But people will continue to listen to Elvis, Little Richard and Chuck - and their successors, Stones, Who and so forth - so in that sense rock n' roll will never die. dead as a fuckin’ doornail mate. But thats OK, everything has its time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, Len Cnut said: Elvis is the one who made it so that we're sitting here talking about rock n roll today, the face of it, the thing that was needed to make it an international cultural phenomenon. The musical aspect Chuck covered, not just musical but lyrical too, teenage stories, teenage concerns, cars, birds and sex. Little Richard is the soul and spirit of it. None of em could belt out a tune like Rich. In fact no one ever has been able to belt out a tune like Rich, Rich' took it to that place where like...the fuckin' nth degree, where it sounded proper subversive and rebellious, this raving flash poof screeching hollering at the top of his lungs like he's out of his mind. People have come close to Rich'...but no ones topped him. one can easily put cliff richard in that list. "the elvis from great britain", stealing many a woman's heart. (I just came to realise that when your name is "richard" you're in for an exciting rock n roll career. Little richard, Keith Richards, Cliff Richard, eh... Richard Fortus. All of them became richard and famous.) I remember finding this record in my dad's music collection when I was 9 years old or something. I thought it was pretty cool, but "dad's rock" nonetheless. Edited December 10, 2019 by action Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 23 minutes ago, action said: one can easily put cliff richard in that list. "the elvis from great britain", stealing many a woman's heart. (I just came to realise that when your name is "richard" you're in for an exciting rock n roll career. Little richard, Keith Richards, Cliff Richard, eh... Richard Fortus. All of them became richard and famous.) I remember finding this record in my dad's music collection when I was 9 years old or something. I thought it was pretty cool, but "dad's rock" nonetheless. I gotta admit thats a pretty sick riff/tune. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketfoot Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Cliff certainly had the occasional belter lurking away amongst a load of dreary shit. 6 hours ago, action said: "dad's rock" Most of his stuff would be more accurately described as Nan-rock. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 9 hours ago, bucketfoot said: Cliff certainly had the occasional belter lurking away amongst a load of dreary shit. don't all these artists mentioned? little richard lost something after the 50s. I don't know what happened there. Movie Elvis is best forgotten, 1968 marked a brief return to form, and from 1970 onwards he just got fed up with rock n roll, going for lamenting country pop in stead. chuck berry, likewise, lost something in the 70s, becoming this strange bar entertainer These artists didn't really respect the music they helped create, as time went on. Increasingly, they made a mockery of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Quote Movie Elvis is best forgotten There's some cracking tunes in those films y'know, Roustabout, GI Blues, Elvis sang so well his voice alone on whatever kind of track gives it something. Rock a Hula and all that. Quote chuck berry, likewise, lost something in the 70s, becoming this strange bar entertainer He did a fair bit of work in the 70s too y'know. I think when you get to a point where you like...embody an archetype you kinda don't need to do anything else. He done a bit of bird at the end of the 70s that didn't help matters either. There's a fair bit of range to his discography though, if you dig a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: There's some cracking tunes in those films y'know, Roustabout, GI Blues, Elvis sang so well his voice alone on whatever kind of track gives it something. Rock a Hula and all that. He did a fair bit of work in the 70s too y'know. I think when you get to a point where you like...embody an archetype you kinda don't need to do anything else. He done a bit of bird at the end of the 70s that didn't help matters either. There's a fair bit of range to his discography though, if you dig a little. "pocketfull of rainbows" is quite enjoyable too. a nice little uplifting song. The problem here is, there was not much rock n roll. don't get me wrong, elvis still had a great voice, brilliant even, but I'll always see the '60s as the period which destroyed his rock n roll career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, action said: "pocketfull of rainbows" is quite enjoyable too. a nice little uplifting song. The problem here is, there was not much rock n roll. don't get me wrong, elvis still had a great voice, brilliant even, but I'll always see the '60s as the period which destroyed his rock n roll career. Elvis is almost like The Sex Pistols where like, in terms of impact, cultural significance, its that original document, that one album, that debut that just blew everything apart. Everything that happened afterwards sort of showed the power of popular music and its effect on a culture, I agree with you really though I perhaps wouldn't put it as harshly as 'destroyed his career'. I think any top 10 greatest albums of all time list is incomplete without Elvises debut on it, that album is pure fuckin' magic. Its really incalcuable the effect it had on postwar popular culture, almost impossible to overrate it. And this is all fuckin' sociological bollocks too, musically speaking its just full of cracking tunes with not a a hairs worth of filler on it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 this thread inspired me to ask little richards' greatest hits album for christmas. funny story, my wife called me from the store asking me if I wanted something else too, since the cd only cost 2.99 euro. bloody hell, richard ain't exactly justin bieber in popularity these days, is he. then my wife "who the hell is little richard anyway? some kind of rock kid or something, I can't find anything in the kids' section". lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketfoot Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 hour ago, action said: then my wife "who the hell is little richard anyway? some kind of rock kid or something, I can't find anything in the kids' section". lol Divorce her. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, action said: this thread inspired me to ask little richards' greatest hits album for christmas. funny story, my wife called me from the store asking me if I wanted something else too, since the cd only cost 2.99 euro. bloody hell, richard ain't exactly justin bieber in popularity these days, is he. then my wife "who the hell is little richard anyway? some kind of rock kid or something, I can't find anything in the kids' section". lol You can’t blame her. In actual fact we’re the odd ones here, the ones who act like these names are common knowledge nearly 70 years after the fact. Sobering thought really, the idea that there’s people walking the streets these days that have more than likely never heard of The Beatles. Edited December 14, 2019 by Len Cnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: You can’t blame her. In actual fact we’re the odd ones here, the ones who act like these names are common knowledge nearly 70 years after the fact. Sobering thought really, the idea that there’s people walking the streets these days that have more than likely never heard of The Beatles. what do you say? the beatniks? beat boys? oh the beatles? what an odd name for a band. they any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lame ass security Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, action said: what do you say? the beatniks? beat boys? oh the beatles? what an odd name for a band. they any good? Nah, One Direction wannabes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 hour ago, action said: what do you say? the beatniks? beat boys? oh the beatles? what an odd name for a band. they any good? Just a bunch of flash young homosexuals attempting to pervert the young into Communism 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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