rocknroll41 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 22 minutes ago, Michael Van Gerwen said: 2006 leaks of I.R.S 99 and Hard School snippet (known as Checkmate back then) were from the same source right? so does this mean DJ Razz was sent rough mixes #3 from the village discs in 2006? He also leaked 1999 Catcher, which sounded almost the same as the Rough Mix 1 Version, but missing one of the guitar tracks. Also, the version of IRS he leaked had a police siren sound effect that is missing from the Rough Mix 3 Version, if I recall correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, Michael Van Gerwen said: Rough Mixes 3 IRS also has the siren. I stand corrected then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 I wish they had kept the siren effect in I.R.S. for the final release. I think it fits the song nicely! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sonic Reducer Posted March 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2020 According to Fernando the album is releasing today! Who's excited? Maybe we should open a new thread for discussions on it. I'm personally getting the special edition that includes the new wristband and iPhone headphone jack dongle! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Was the Reddit post exactly 6 months ago? Meh, he could now always say that the plans have obviously changed because of the world situation, so... a no win situation for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavgnr Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, jamillos said: Was the Reddit post exactly 6 months ago? Meh, he could now always say that the plans have obviously changed because of the world situation, so... a no win situation for us. I know buddy, sucks for us. There’ll always be a million reasons why there’ll never be a new record. I say drop the fucker now digitally and then release physical copies with a special bonus addition once all this shit has blown over 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonic Reducer Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) I woke up at 4 am just to head to my nearest record store. The line is huge! COVID or no COVID people are determined to buy this much anticipated release! 3 hours ago, jamillos said: Was the Reddit post exactly 6 months ago? Meh, he could now always say that the plans have obviously changed because of the world situation, so... a no win situation for us. Don't be ridiculous, the fact that the manager himself said we're getting a release on March, means it was all planned beforehand. I mean come on, the album has been in the making for over 10 years, surely they have worked it all out. Have some faith! Edited March 31, 2020 by Sonic Reducer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 5 hours ago, gavgnr said: I know buddy, sucks for us. There’ll always be a million reasons why there’ll never be a new record. I say drop the fucker now digitally and then release physical copies with a special bonus addition once all this shit has blown over I'm coming more and more to the view that the one and only reason we don't have a new record is that there isn't one, or anything near it. Nothing but elusive comments and "ask me another question quick and let's move on" interview answers suggests anything is seriously happening. I hope they prove me wrong, but nothing but cold hard evidence of new material will do for me anymore. It's actually taken me a lot longer than most to get this point of view, but 'm sure everyone will eventually end up feeling the same as me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, allwaystired said: I'm coming more and more to the view that the one and only reason we don't have a new record is that there isn't one, or anything near it. Nothing but elusive comments and "ask me another question quick and let's move on" interview answers suggests anything is seriously happening. I hope they prove me wrong, but nothing but cold hard evidence of new material will do for me anymore. It's actually taken me a lot longer than most to get this point of view, but 'm sure everyone will eventually end up feeling the same as me. no way of knowing cause they're not talking but I imagine the way Axl's process works (going by what he has said in the past about working on some shit then leaving it and working on something else and going back to it) is trying different things until something works and kinda add it to the pile. He worked with a list for Chinese like Josh Freese said. There were AAA/AA/A tunes. So perhaps more methodical in nature compared to getting in the same room and just jam with the band. and they don't have to start from scratch. So maybe Axl lets everyone come up with ideas and send it to him and this time he'll give Slash/Duff/the rest of the band a chance to rework some Chinese era tunes he still deems as relevant and good enough to be included. I always describe the Axl's slow motion way of doing it like putting together a musical puzzle. I don't think Axl starts with a clear vision of how it's supposed to sound like or a specific criteria. Maybe he knows it's right when he hears it but this time existing material can provide a quality standard and at least in part some direction for the band. Slash must have worked on something in Axl's house. Could be anything, something Slash brought in like a riff or something Axl thought could work well with Slash's style on it so it can start from virtually anything and take shape later. My guess is they're still on "search" mode. Edited March 31, 2020 by Rovim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rovim said: no way of knowing cause they're not talking but I imagine the way Axl's process works (going by what he has said in the past about working on some shit then leaving it and working on something else and going back to it) is trying different things until something works and kinda add it to the pile. He worked with a list for Chinese like Josh Freese said. There were AAA/AA/A tunes. So perhaps more methodical in nature compared to getting in the same room and just jamming with the band. and they don't have to start from scratch. So maybe Axl let's everyone come up with ideas and send it to him and this time he'll give Slash/Duff/the rest of the band a chance to rework some Chinese era tunes he still deems as relevant and good enough to be included. I always describe the Axl's slow motion way of doing it like putting together a musical puzzle. I don't think Axl starts with a clear vision of how it's supposed to sound like or a specific criteria. Maybe he knows it's right when he hears it but this time existing material can provide a quality standard and at least in part some direction for the band. Slash must have worked on something in Axl's house. Could be anything, something Slash brought in like a riff or something Axl thought could work well with Slash's style on it so it can start from virtually anything and take shape later. My guess is they're still on "search" mode. As reasonable a load of 'maybes' as any....but I've just gone beyond the 'maybes' now! Hey, it took them a LONG time to push me there, but they did it! I think 'search mode' is probably a good description of what is going on.....and I don't think they're doing much 'searching'. Again though, I want to be proved wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskingApathy Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 6 hours ago, jamillos said: Was the Reddit post exactly 6 months ago? Meh, he could now always say that the plans have obviously changed because of the world situation, so... a no win situation for us. Guess that worked out perfectly for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 22 minutes ago, lukepowell1988 said: Wait your telling me that Fernando was talking shit AGAIN!? no way!!! No, I guess the OP meant it's just been those "six months" today or so, therefore - where's the gift...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnrJasmin92 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 A reliable (insider) source told me that Axl is trying to figure out how to release an album. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnrJasmin92 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Axl told the source that he is trying to figure out how he could make the most profit, without putting too much time and effort in it. It comes down to a few business decisions that they will have to make, which may take a few years (probably around 3 tot 25 years). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jw224 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) I think the fact that they have even bothered to rework hardchool says that stuff is happening, when we'll hear it is another matter, especially with this band (and the corona situation obviously). As I've said before though I am no longer expecting anything to actually happen, so I'll be excited when it does. Edited March 31, 2020 by Jw224 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePreacher Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Swedish Radiorock host just announced that there will be new single this friday!! Titled "April F'n Fools" written by Melissa and Dizzy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Not the right thread, but IRS leaked in April 1st 2004 (or 2005? can't remember). It was in a shitty quality because it was recorded with a cell phone from the Eddie Trunk show. Not only the audio quality sucked, but it was also comped together because the cell phone could only record just some snippets. But that was the 1st "studio quality" demo we heard from the Chinese Democracy. Before that, aside from the live performances, we only had some very small snippets (The Blues, Madagascar and Chinese) in that 2002 tour promo, which a lot of people back then disputed and said it was just a soundboard record from some show. And well, back then, there were people also saying they had absolutely no material. I remember Slash saying he knew "for a fact" that Axl didnt record vocals for anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, Voodoochild said: Not the right thread, but IRS leaked in April 1st 2004 (or 2005? can't remember). It was in a shitty quality because it was recorded with a cell phone from the Eddie Trunk show. Not only the audio quality sucked, but it was also comped together because the cell phone could only record just some snippets. But that was the 1st "studio quality" demo we heard from the Chinese Democracy. Before that, aside from the live performances, we only had some very small snippets (The Blues, Madagascar and Chinese) in that 2002 tour promo, which a lot of people back then disputed and said it was just a soundboard record from some show. And well, back then, there were people also saying they had absolutely no material. I remember Slash saying he knew "for a fact" that Axl didnt record vocals for anything. I.R.S first leaked in 2005. The Boston tour promo was discussed and some people said it was too crisp to be just a soundboard recording from a live show. I thought that promo was well made. The announcer sounded ridiculous though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rovim said: I.R.S first leaked in 2005. The Boston tour promo was discussed and some people said it was too crisp to be just a soundboard recording from a live show. I thought that promo was well made. The announcer sounded ridiculous though. It's not just about being too crisp. It's the production, the sound signature. I always said it was studio recordings, but people were so in denial (just like today) that they just couldn't believe it. In some ways, it's like how it is today. Even when we do have material proof of unreleased material, this is still not enough to believe that there is *something* happening. Which, of course, doesn't mean a release is around the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Voodoochild said: It's not just about being too crisp. It's the production, the sound signature. yeah I'm aware, just thought it was an interesting comment to mention from back then. Edited April 1, 2020 by Rovim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Those were fun times on this forum. The mystique was still alive and well. I remember each of those individual clips leaking. Then a year later (felt like forever) we had the first batch of proper leaks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagszilla Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 The vibe of the Trunk leaks is so great. It still sounds really fresh to me. Great energy. I think that Slash quote about no vocals was from VH1 Behind the Music Gn'R that was done in 2004. Glory days, they'll pass you by... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Voodoochild said: Not the right thread, but IRS leaked in April 1st 2004 (or 2005? can't remember). It was in a shitty quality because it was recorded with a cell phone from the Eddie Trunk show. Not only the audio quality sucked, but it was also comped together because the cell phone could only record just some snippets. But that was the 1st "studio quality" demo we heard from the Chinese Democracy. Before that, aside from the live performances, we only had some very small snippets (The Blues, Madagascar and Chinese) in that 2002 tour promo, which a lot of people back then disputed and said it was just a soundboard record from some show. And well, back then, there were people also saying they had absolutely no material. I remember Slash saying he knew "for a fact" that Axl didnt record vocals for anything. I wonder how slash knew?. Who was axl working with in terms of recordings around this time?? i doubt it was anyone in slashs circle 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) Perhaps Slash was referencing material he had worked on just prior to not being in GN'R? We all clearly know there were vocals done by '99, if not earlier. Almost two albums worth of songs with vocals by the end of 2000 based on The Village leaks. Edited April 1, 2020 by Sweersa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelostrose Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Sweersa said: Perhaps Slash was referencing material he had worked on just prior to not being in GN'R? We all clearly know there were vocals done by '99, if not earlier. Almost two albums worth of songs with vocals by the end of 2000 based on The Village leaks. I guess Slash didn't know anything and was just talking out of his ass. Maybe trying to put a bit pressure on Axl, since their break-up wasn't that friendly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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