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I don't know what the problem is to get some hopes up. It's okay if they let us down yet again, no big deal, it's just a band. 

But there's no need to downplay other people's expectations. You all have it too, no matter how much you say you don't care anymore. This thread (and several others) wouldn't be this long if we really didnt care at all.

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3 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

I don't know what the problem is to get some hopes up. It's okay if they let us down yet again, no big deal, it's just a band. 

But there's no need to downplay other people's expectations. You all have it too, no matter how much you say you don't care anymore. This thread (and several others) wouldn't be this long if we really didnt care at all.

There’s a difference between “caring” and “getting hopes up”.

Advising other people not to get their hopes up is fine to do, honestly. Especially if you know better and have been down the same road a million times.

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1 minute ago, Tyler Drama said:

There’s a difference between “caring” and “getting hopes up”.

Advising other people not to get their hopes up is fine to do, honestly. Especially if you know better and have been down the same road a million times.

Wasn't talk about this, but I assume everyone here knows how this road is. Even those who were not around back in the dark times in the 90s and early 2000s. 

I am hoping for something to happen. Can't help it. Everyone said CD would never be released, it happened one day. Same with the semi-reunion. Something happens sometimes, even if it takes forever. 

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3 minutes ago, Towelie said:

Would it help if I offered to show you all my junk again?

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..........................Yes.

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2 hours ago, Towelie said:

Would it help if I offered to show you all my junk again?

That didn't work last time, nothing happened.

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On 1/24/2020 at 9:44 PM, Blackstar said:

That quote was from 2014 (Revolver mag), not from 2010 or 2012.

http://www.a-4-d.com/t2494-2014-05-xx-interview-with-axl-in-revolver-magazine

That was the first time Axl actually talked about wanting to release a new album (CD II specifically) after 2008, and he was referring to the period after the Vegas residencies ended ("But after Vegas, we're going to start looking very seriously at what we're doing in that regard."). In the same interview he was asked about the possibility of continuing working with Duff, and he said it was open. I'd guess that at that point Axl had already the reunion in his mind.

The next time - and last, to this day - he talked about wanting to release new music was in China Exchange, where he added that, like, before, "soon is not the word."

Can you remember when he said something like "we hope to make music for many years to come?" (I always hate it when he says "we" instead of "I" cuz he sure weren't talking about Ashba and BBF. 

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If we dont get anything my 3/1, we wont IMO.  Staring 3/14, they are out of the country through july.  It would seem impossible to tour the same songs another year, but this band would

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Honestly it’s the next few weeks. Summer tours are starting to get announced. Unless they  announce that they are tying a release alongside with those rumored US Stadium dates, then nothing is coming. It makes little sense to announce anything afterwards

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Honestly, I would stop giving deadlines.  Today shows that zero fucks are given about delivering on literally anything within a reasonable amount of time.

They'll likely release music in, say, 2023 during a period of complete inactivity when no one gives a fuck anymore.  Just like they did in 2008 with Chinese Democracy.

 

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1 hour ago, Jordan Rose said:

Can you remember when he said something like "we hope to make music for many years to come?" (I always hate it when he says "we" instead of "I" cuz he sure weren't talking about Ashba and BBF. 

Yeah Bumble confirmed that serious talks for the reunion with Slash started right after he told Axl he was quitting, which was during the South America leg at the beginning of 2014 (before Golden Gods and Vegas). That’s why on the Golden Gods red carpet both Duff and Alice Cooper said a reunion could happen (and they both smirked like they knew something). And during his thank you speech that night, Axl thanked “all of our lineups.” He did the Revolver interview that same night. The reunion was already locked in by then. His talk of “we’ll look into maybe putting out the remix album and the second half of Chinese after Vegas” or whatever he said there was semi-bullshit. He probably saw a possibility in Slash being part of CD2 at that point, but here we are 6 years later, and that remains to be a reality.

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38 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said:

Yeah Bumble confirmed that serious talks for the reunion with Slash started right after he told Axl he was quitting, which was during the South America leg at the beginning of 2014 (before Golden Gods and Vegas). That’s why on the Golden Gods red carpet both Duff and Alice Cooper said a reunion could happen (and they both smirked like they knew something). And during his thank you speech that night, Axl thanked “all of our lineups.” He did the Revolver interview that same night. The reunion was already locked in by then. His talk of “we’ll look into maybe putting out the remix album and the second half of Chinese after Vegas” or whatever he said there was semi-bullshit. He probably saw a possibility in Slash being part of CD2 at that point, but here we are 6 years later, and that remains to be a reality.

Good stuff. Can you remember who was going around at Vegas saying to people "this will be the last time you see this lineup?" Could have been someone like Jarmo or Saint Laurent. 

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9 minutes ago, Jordan Rose said:

Good stuff. Can you remember who was going around at Vegas saying to people "this will be the last time you see this lineup?" Could have been someone like Jarmo or Saint Laurent. 

 

When I met her (it all came straight from Del James), who told her: "This will probably be the last time you'll see this version of Guns N 'Roses for a while." The next thing she mentioned was that: "The people have spoken." I asked what Del was referring to, she said: "Axl and Slash." I do not know if this alleged conversation took place by phone, email or in person, but I asked her to go straight to the point. According to what she said, Axl reached a level in his life where he would try to leave the máguas aside and make peace with certain people in his life, apparently Slash is one of them.

 

http://www.mygnrforum.com/topic/209126-rumor-some-members-may-be-out-of-the-band/?page=9

 

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3 hours ago, MaskingApathy said:

That didn't work last time, nothing happened.

Don't say I don't keep my promises.

My junk:

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2 hours ago, Jordan Rose said:

Good stuff. Can you remember who was going around at Vegas saying to people "this will be the last time you see this lineup?" Could have been someone like Jarmo or Saint Laurent. 

I think Bumble told some people there that it was his last show. Also I recall someone saying they heard Frank backstage saying “I may need to look for new fulltime employment after this gig.” Guess he figured at the time that either Steven or Matt would fully replace him.

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43 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said:

I think Bumble told some people there that it was his last show. Also I recall someone saying they heard Frank backstage saying “I may need to look for new fulltime employment after this gig.” Guess he figured at the time that either Steven or Matt would fully replace him.

You are very exactly about it happened! I remember same that you.

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1 hour ago, rocknroll41 said:

I think Bumble told some people there that it was his last show. Also I recall someone saying they heard Frank backstage saying “I may need to look for new fulltime employment after this gig.” Guess he figured at the time that either Steven or Matt would fully replace him.

Yes. Bumble told some argentinian fans that Team Brazil was pushing for a reunion with Slash. I read that story when it happened in a latinamerican GNR forum. 

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6 hours ago, Towelie said:

Don't say I don't keep my promises.

My junk:

Junk-Removal-1170x790.jpg

I meant that the last time you said that GnR didn't do anything different.

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I saw them twice in 2017 & 2018 and im gonna to se them in march at lolapallooza and Im happy for you're crazy... Yeah know all the complains but at the end of the day im happy I Will see axl and slash again 

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5 hours ago, Hidin´Stradlin said:

Yes. Bumble told some argentinian fans that Team Brazil was pushing for a reunion with Slash. I read that story when it happened in a latinamerican GNR forum. 

gnrla was a great site, I read it too. 

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8 hours ago, rocknroll41 said:

I think Bumble told some people there that it was his last show. Also I recall someone saying they heard Frank backstage saying “I may need to look for new fulltime employment after this gig.” Guess he figured at the time that either Steven or Matt would fully replace him.

Courtesy of ShadowOfTheWave:

When I met her (it all came straight from Del James), who told her: "This will probably be the last time you'll see this version of Guns N 'Roses for a while." The next thing she mentioned was that: "The people have spoken." I asked what Del was referring to, she said: "Axl and Slash." I do not know if this alleged conversation took place by phone, email or in person, but I asked her to go straight to the point. According to what she said, Axl reached a level in his life where he would try to leave the máguas aside and make peace with certain people in his life, apparently Slash is one of them.

 

http://www.mygnrforum.com/topic/209126-rumor-some-members-may-be-out-of-the-band/?page=9

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That’s me signing off until there’s any kind of announcement that this band has any future. Sadly I think I may be done forever. Joke band.

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On 26/01/2020 at 12:50 PM, ToonGuns said:

Played Trilliams myself a few times back in the day. Once saw Gazza in there, trying to avoid the papparazzi when he was supposed to be in rehab. 

Saw a number of great bands in Trillians.  Off to see Guns 2 Roses tonight at the Academy.  Michael Bruce from Alice Cooper played twice and enjoyed both although the sound fucked on one of the nights.

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If there's one thing the lack of new music, last night's show, and the past couple years of tour legs have shown, it's that Guns N' Roses is a spent force at this point. Now that the initial excitement of Slash and Duff being back in the band has worn off, we're just left with a band going through the motions with a frontman on autopilot whose voice is totally shot.

The only releases we're getting out of this lineup anytime soon are probably gonna be Conspirators albums, Duff solo projects, and whatever Dizzy and Richard put out.

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