adamwolff11 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 minute ago, LunsJail said: I would still expect someone to at least recognize their own hypocrisy there. Matt doesn’t do that in his opinions on this subject. There's an incredible lack of self awareness by him throughout. I definitely agree with that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said: Fuck Axl for what he turned the band into It all started with such promise in 2016-17. But then he let it slip into the same creatively impotent rut that plagued the band from 2011-14. Such a bummer all around. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 40 minutes ago, sofine11 said: It all started with such promise in 2016-17. But then he let it slip into the same creatively impotent rut that plagued the band from 2011-14. Such a bummer all around. they're working on it now at least? with all of Axl's tinkering I imagine he wants to complete the work and release it. With Slash and Duff it might be enough to provide the required motivation and confidence to see it through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskingApathy Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 34 minutes ago, Rovim said: they're working on it now at least? with all of Axl's tinkering I imagine he wants to complete the work and release it. With Slash and Duff it might be enough to provide the required motivation and confidence to see it through. Yeah but it's taking way too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said: Yeah but it's taking way too long. they were busy doing a victory lap. They probably understood that there was enough of a demand to really cash in and do it in style while also enjoying it with not too much work or risk, at least not as much as what they must face in the studio. Now without a possibility to tour for at least this year I think it's a good set of conditions for them to get this thing going. if Axl manages to release an album before he's 60 that will be a win in my book. Having said that, the fact he only released 1 album in almost 30 years never leaves my mind but on the other hand, what's done is done. Doesn't mean he won't succeed this time. Edited May 1, 2020 by Rovim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chinese stew Posted May 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2020 Incredible he was asked to do a few spots in NITL , after years of slamming Axl. But.....I think he should've done it and made it OBVIOUS the Frank mistake. Probably would've opened Axl s eyes and ears. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinia_29 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 (edited) He said Slash was the snake, but still joined with him im VR. He badmouthed Axl all the time and still wanted to be a part of GNR engine. I don't get this guy, honestly. Is he a hypocrite? Is he honest? Damn right. Edited May 1, 2020 by Zinia_29 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfierose Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, Zinia_29 said: He said Slash was the snake, but still joined with him im VR. He badmouthed Axl all the time and still wanted to be a part of GNR engine. I don't get this guy, honestly. Is he a hypocrite? Is he honest? Damn right. He's just a rockstar. They're all douchebags in their own way at one time or another. It's just a case of pick your poison! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 I think it's fairly obvious that anyone who's ever been in GNR outside of Ron & Izzy will just say whatever benefits them the most in that moment. When Slash & Duff used to need to drum up interest in things they were up to, they'd give a sensational quote about Axl. Axl would do the same with their names when he was deumming up attention for later GNR line ups. Matt's just playing that same game is all. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reayj2003 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 (edited) Slash & Duff just did a guest spot on the Cherie Currie album Matt produced & he’s been posting videos of the 3 of them. Don’t think it’s cool that he’s put that comment about Frank. Frank is a cool guy, lovely to fans & he’s not a bad drummer at all. Edited May 1, 2020 by reayj2003 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post James Bond Posted May 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2020 For all my current criticisms of this band, Frank is not one of them. Not that I want to turn this into a Frank thread, but seriously, am I the only person besides the ginger who likes the guy? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MaskingApathy Posted May 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 hour ago, chinese stew said: Incredible he was asked to do a few spots in NITL , after years of slamming Axl. But.....I think he should've done it and made it OBVIOUS the Frank mistake. Probably would've opened Axl s eyes and ears. I agree. Not sure if Axl would hear a difference but the fans definitely would, like when Steven guested. It would be great if Matt had done estranged or ycbm or something like that. Or locomotive when they finally pulled that out. 37 minutes ago, reayj2003 said: Didn’t Slash & Duff just guest on an album Matt produced? Don’t think it’s cool that he’s put that comment about Frank. Frank is a cool guy, lovely to fans & he’s not a bad drummer at all. Again, that was recorded like 10 years ago. The album was delayed because of her injury. 12 minutes ago, James Bond said: For all my current criticisms of this band, Frank is not one of them. Not that I want to turn this into a Frank thread, but seriously, am I the only person besides the ginger who likes the guy? Yes 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reayj2003 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, James Bond said: For all my current criticisms of this band, Frank is not one of them. Not that I want to turn this into a Frank thread, but seriously, am I the only person besides the ginger who likes the guy? I like him, he’s a good drummer but naturally very different in style to Steven & Matt. I think he’s trying more to replicate the sound since the return of Slash & Duff. His drumming on Dizzy’s solo album, Dead Dasies, The Compulsions & PSSR is really solid. Check out “busted” by Pssr if you haven’t already. Great tune and also features Fortus. Also credit to him for doing 3 hour shows. Edited May 1, 2020 by reayj2003 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powderfinger Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 I Haven’t read the book, but from the pieces posted and summarized in the thread, it seems he’s written the book because the bridges were already burned. Should be juicy, written in anger and with no worries regarding future relations with the rest of em. I don’t hate Frank as a person, but any manner of spinal tap type reason he could disappear from that drum stool would be appreciated. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 On listening to some late 2000’s stuff, Frank sounds pretty damn good to me and better than times he has since Duff and Slash have been back. Clearly it’s taken time to ‘lock in’ but I’d say they have for a while now. Maybe Duff didn’t rate him in 2015? I do doubt he would be so scathing in those words but could be wrong right enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propaganda Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 (edited) Dunno if you guys know but the first track "Mr. X" of the new Cherie Curry's album, is one of the demos from Velvet Revolver, from when they were searching for a new singer. The instrumental track I mean. To be honest, I liked the auditioned singer's version much more: Edited May 2, 2020 by Propaganda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 When matts book officially hits the shelfs,if the content of the book around the NITL tour is still the same,im sure the other media sites will start creating posts about some of the content.will be interesting if this changes the dynamic between the big 3 in GNR..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony adler Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 13 hours ago, adamwolff11 said: Sure.. so he has an entire chapter on it. He speaks very freely and openly, which is refreshing considering Axl doesn't talk and Duff/Slash couldn't say less in interviews anymore. Here are some quotes/details: - No specific quote, but he met with Duff in 2015 and Duff said that 'the three partners were talking' referring to him, Slash, and Axl. But he said it was just their lawyers talking. Matt asked him to tell him before he read it online if anything was actually going to happen. - Matt said Duff was avoiding him once news broke about the reunion. When he talked to him, Duff said 'Well, Axl wants to use his drummer. But the guy can't even play the drums. I've gotta talk to Axl and say I really can't play with this guy'. - Fernando reached out to him and said 'Hey there bud. How are you? Just reaching out to see how your schedule is looking. Wondering if you're interested in joining the band on a few shows and a few songs. Let me know.' Travel expenses were offered but no money. - He met with Duff after the reunion had begun and told Duff he had begun hanging out with Izzy again. Duff said 'Fuck Izzy!'. Sorum said 'Well, Izzy says fuck you too'. His closing comments on the reunion (after his last meeting with Duff): What I do know for sure is that our friendship wasn't the only thing that had ended - our twenty-eight year musical partnership was over too. I wouldn't be able to call him or Slash and ask if they wanted to play with me. The GNR machine had taken them back. I knew I wouldn't be able to rely on those guys any longer. For the first time, I felt completely on my own. those shitheads really don’t like drummers do they Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FuriousStyles Posted May 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2020 9 hours ago, James Bond said: For all my current criticisms of this band, Frank is not one of them. Not that I want to turn this into a Frank thread, but seriously, am I the only person besides the ginger who likes the guy? I started not to mind Frank - but then I saw Slash and Fitz on the Living The Dream tour. Now I mind. Nightrain is a different song. Frank just lacks the polish - and in terms of fit, I think he's a tier below Adler/Sorum (on original material) 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskingApathy Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Propaganda said: Dunno if you guys know but the first track "Mr. X" of the new Cherie Curry's album, is one of the demos from Velvet Revolver, from when they were searching for a new singer. The instrumental track I mean. To be honest, I liked the auditioned singer's version much more: I actually like her take on it better. That demo is floating around on YouTube with other people singing on it and most of those aren't very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR_RNR Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 23 hours ago, adamwolff11 said: Sure.. so he has an entire chapter on it. He speaks very freely and openly, which is refreshing considering Axl doesn't talk and Duff/Slash couldn't say less in interviews anymore. Here are some quotes/details: - No specific quote, but he met with Duff in 2015 and Duff said that 'the three partners were talking' referring to him, Slash, and Axl. But he said it was just their lawyers talking. Matt asked him to tell him before he read it online if anything was actually going to happen. - Matt said Duff was avoiding him once news broke about the reunion. When he talked to him, Duff said 'Well, Axl wants to use his drummer. But the guy can't even play the drums. I've gotta talk to Axl and say I really can't play with this guy'. - Fernando reached out to him and said 'Hey there bud. How are you? Just reaching out to see how your schedule is looking. Wondering if you're interested in joining the band on a few shows and a few songs. Let me know.' Travel expenses were offered but no money. - He met with Duff after the reunion had begun and told Duff he had begun hanging out with Izzy again. Duff said 'Fuck Izzy!'. Sorum said 'Well, Izzy says fuck you too'. His closing comments on the reunion (after his last meeting with Duff): What I do know for sure is that our friendship wasn't the only thing that had ended - our twenty-eight year musical partnership was over too. I wouldn't be able to call him or Slash and ask if they wanted to play with me. The GNR machine had taken them back. I knew I wouldn't be able to rely on those guys any longer. For the first time, I felt completely on my own. Thanks for the summary. Cool to hear the details. Seems like Sorum is angry at not getting a piece of the pie. I'd imagine points 1,3 & 4 are mostly true. And when/if Duff said 'fuck Izzy' that will have been after their relationship was damaged by the whole issue with money. Makes sense Sorum would want a fee for turning up to a show (I do feel their treatment of Steven was a bit exploitative) but let's face it, no one is wearing a Sorum t-shirt. Steven was a much bigger deal due to being one of the afd 5. Point 2 just sounds like huge exaggeration on Matt's part. Duff already played with Frank a bunch in 2014. Doesn't scan that he would suddenly have a problem with him. Just a shame they guys can't put the money behind them, they've all made more than enough. I'd love to see a new tour put together(even with the current lineup) but with guest appearances from Izzy, Steven and hell even buckethead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Brando is interviewing him next week. This should be interesting 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alejandro GNR Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 26 minutes ago, StayofExecution2020 said: Brando is interviewing him next week. This should be interesting Interviewing who??? Matt??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Alejandro GNR said: Interviewing who??? Matt??? Yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alejandro GNR Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 I HOPE HE ASKS MATT ABOUT AXL VOCAL CHANGES AFTER 1994 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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