UsedYourIllusion Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 5 hours ago, Jw224 said: Kylo dying was the only way, you don't give a mass murderer Redemption then let him live. I had no problem with that; but when Rey thought she had murdered chewie and then 2 minutes later the film shows us it’s fine-kind of took me out of the movie. Couldn’t even hold that bit of suspense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 The dagger thing was dumb as fuck I'm excited for Mike's Plinkett review Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Dazey said: Mate, it was utter arse gravy from start to finish and I’m really annoyed at that. For me, the biggest eye roll moment came when she holds up the dagger and the shape just happens to fit perfectly against the silhouette of the Death Star wreckage. Now correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t the dagger supposed to be some ancient relic? If so then how the fuck did it fit the outline of the 30 year old wreckage? Also how did she just happen to be in the exact right spot for that to work? Like in an alternate cut the Emperor wins because Rey was standing 6 feet to the right.  A) the relic is prothetic and b) she's Mary Sue. She can do anything. Even stand at the right spot, where the ancient, prothetic relic makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Dazey said: My point EXACTLY!!!! Also, given that the Emperor was on this supposedly uncharted planet, how did he manage to get the hundreds of thousands of crew there to pilot his fleet of star destroyers without somebody blabbing the location? How the heck did the emperor survive? He blew up when Vader shoved him down that hole at the end of Jedi, and then the entire Death Star blew up soon after! Now we see him stuck on tubes. I am sure somebody will produce a comic about it but I am not interested in any of that nerd stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, DieselDaisy said: And it is meant to be an ancient Sith relic, built centuries before the death star!! Another thing is that Palpatine shagged somebody at some stage to produce a granddaughter. Oh, well. He was a late bloomer as an emperor. Somehow he had to pass the time, before his face melted off. It probably would have made more sense (LOL) to make her his great grand daughter. Edited December 23, 2019 by PatrickS77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: How the heck did the emperor survive? He blew up when Vader shoved him down that hole at the end of Jedi, and then the entire Death Star blew up soon after! Now we see him stuck on tubes. I am sure somebody will produce a comic about it but I am not interested in any of that nerd stuff. That brings us to the question of how that blown up wreckage of the death star can end up on a planet pretty much intact? When planes fall out of the sky, there usually is not much left. How would a death star from out of space be intact? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 54 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said: The dagger movie thing was dumb as fuck There. Corrected it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Just now, PatrickS77 said: That brings us to the question of how that blown up wreckage of the death star can end up on a planet pretty much intact? When planes fall out of the sky, there usually is not much left. How would a death star from out of space be intact? The explosion was fairly comprehensive, Yet we are led to believe that this survived, and somehow managed to make it to the planet, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: The explosion was fairly comprehensive, Yet we are led to believe that this survived, and somehow managed to make it to the planet, Yeah. Like I said. The whole movie is dumb as fuck. You can only enjoy it if you hand in your brain at the door when entering. I'm sure though someone will say that the emperor has survived in that piece of DS that miracoulisly wasn't destroyed and made it on that planet. Edited December 23, 2019 by PatrickS77 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jw224 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, PatrickS77 said: That brings us to the question of how that blown up wreckage of the death star can end up on a planet pretty much intact? When planes fall out of the sky, there usually is not much left. How would a death star from out of space be intact? Complaints like this make no sense to me, you're watching a film about people who can use powers and fly spaceships and turn into ghosts and you're complaining about some wreckage. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Just now, Jw224 said: Complaints like this make no sense to me, you're watching a film about people who can use powers and fly spaceships and turn into ghosts and you're complaining about some wreckage. I knew someone would reply with this! There has to be an eternal logic to the film which exists irrespective of its genre. Just because it is set in a ''galaxy far far away'' does not create an excuse for variable plotting, puzzling/abrupt character changes and incidents which simply completely contradict one and another. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jw224 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: I knew someone would reply with this! There has to be an eternal logic to the film which exists irrespective of its genre. Just because it is set in a ''galaxy far far away'' does not create an excuse for variable plotting, puzzling/abrupt character changes and incidents which simply completely contradict one and another. The wreckage fell when it blew up, that's the clear explanation. No wonder filmmakers don't want to work on star wars when fans complain about stuff like this. Edited December 23, 2019 by Jw224 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Jw224 said: The wreckage fell when it blew up, that's the clear explanation. No wonder filmmakers don't want to work on star wars when fans complain about stuff like this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I totally understand that there are plot holes and so on, but again, there were lots of those in the OG trilogy yet it gets a total pass for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jw224 said: Complaints like this make no sense to me, you're watching a film about people who can use powers and fly spaceships and turn into ghosts and you're complaining about some wreckage. Yes. I complain about that. Suspenscion of disbelief only goes so far. Superman can fly and has superstrength, but if they would tell me that Batman suddenly can fly too and also has superstrength, then I would say, get the fuck out of here. Edited December 23, 2019 by PatrickS77 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 44 minutes ago, Jw224 said: The wreckage fell when it blew up, that's the clear explanation. No wonder filmmakers don't want to work on star wars when fans complain about stuff like this. Right. And after being blown to bits and falling (shouldn't whatever is left just float) and then finally falling, after it miraculously managed to float to a planet, it pretty much stayed in one piece, after it crashed to the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jw224 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, DieselDaisy said: I don't understand what you're trying to say here. I really don't. If you go and see Star wars and expect realism then I think maybe you're not into star wars anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, PatrickS77 said: Yeah. Like I said. The whole movie is dumb as fuck. You can only enjoy it if you hand in your brain at the door when entering. I'm sure though someone will say that the emperor has survived in that piece of DS that miracoulisly wasn't destroyed and made it on that planet. Note that those pieces of DS had to enter in an atmosphere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, RussTCB said: I totally understand that there are plot holes and so on, but again, there were lots of those in the OG trilogy yet it gets a total pass for some reason. Because they were good movies. It had plot holes, but its positives overweighted the negatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 47 minutes ago, Jw224 said: I don't understand what you're trying to say here. I really don't. If you go and see Star wars and expect realism then I think maybe you're not into star wars anymore. If something completely gets destroyed, it cannot turn up in a subsequent film!! It does matter about the genre of the film here (i.e. sci fi) as the film series has to have its own logic and plausibility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 30 minutes ago, Chewbacca said: Because they were good movies. It had plot holes, but its positives overweighted the negatives. And that's how I view TFA and Rise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 37 minutes ago, Chewbacca said: Note that those pieces of DS had to enter in an atmosphere... Note: What pieces? And for argument sake, if there are pieces, who says that it has to enter an atmosphere, instead of floating in space until all eternity. But maybe the emperor force pulled it into an atmosphere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, RussTCB said: I totally understand that there are plot holes and so on, but again, there were lots of those in the OG trilogy yet it gets a total pass for some reason. Not a pass from the Family Guy lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 36 minutes ago, RussTCB said: And that's how I view TFA and Rise. The only good thing the prequels did😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 44 minutes ago, PatrickS77 said: Note: What pieces? And for argument sake, if there are pieces, who says that it has to enter an atmosphere, instead of floating in space until all eternity. But maybe the emperor force pulled it into an atmosphere. If Abrams thought of that, he would have certainly used it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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