username Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, GNRfanJen said: Hey guys, so at this point this story is months old, but it finally hit TMZ, and a "rep" for the band (we all know who), released a statement on it. Link is below. https://www.tmz.com/2020/01/02/guns-n-roses-pissed-superfan-leaked-music-leak/ Rick Dunsford and the Leaky Locker; GnR Fandom's worst kept secret Edited January 3, 2020 by username Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyWoodRose84 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 20 minutes ago, username said: Rick Dunsford and the Leaky Locker Title of the next Guns album 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarpatch Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 26 minutes ago, username said: Rick Dunsford and the Leaky Locker; GnR Fandom's worst kept secret Band name used to book the secret show at the Whisky to kick off an album release.... Wait, that would be too cool for them to pull off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towlie Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 minute ago, guitarpatch said: Band name used to book the secret show at the Whisky to kick off an album release.... Wait, that would be too cool for them to pull off If this incident is anything to go by, the show would be so secret that the media wouldn't pick up on it until three months later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaya Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) I am out of reactions. Thanks @Blackstar. @Padme. @Mid Night Toker. I like your explanations Edited January 3, 2020 by Amaya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 49 minutes ago, username said: Rick Dunsford and the Leaky Locker This sounds like the title of a really bizarre Children's Book. I'd write it, but I don't want GNR to sue me for the rights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadcaplaughs Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, username said: Rick cannot go to prison from a civil suit. I suppose criminal charges could be pursued like they were in 2008, but I'm sure after that fiasco, the FBI never wants to deal with Guns n' Roses again (cannot believe I just typed that sentence). Edited January 3, 2020 by themadcaplaughs 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Don't really care any more, but I think this is it for the Chairman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangoSkank Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 This is so maddening because on one hand, I get that a band would not want their unreleased songs out there for free. On the other hand, they should really try to use this publicity to their advantage and release something - spin it into something good if it's really so bad. If they professionally mixed these and made them digital downloads I would absolutely buy them again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarpatch Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, BangoSkank said: This is so maddening because on one hand, I get that a band would not want their unreleased songs out there for free. On the other hand, they should really try to use this publicity to their advantage and release something - spin it into something good if it's really so bad. If they professionally mixed these and made them digital downloads I would absolutely buy them again. This is most likely coming from UMG. It’s their investment regardless what the current intention is with those recordings. GNR was never going to make anything substantial, if anything off of these songs. That’s probably truthful even if they re-record them with Slash/Duff. We can certainly guess how GNR feels about it, and their level of cooperation though. My guess is they’re pissed it’s out there. Probably in the premise that it was never meant to be heard and/or used as leverage more so than anything directly monetarily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeeker Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, guitarpatch said: We can certainly guess how GNR feels about it, and their level of cooperation though. My guess is they’re pissed it’s out there. Probably in the premise that it was never meant to be heard and/or used as leverage more so than anything directly monetarily. Yeah the leaks exposed that Axl fudged the number of completed songs he had banked - he bluffed for 20 years and got away with it Now he might actually have to do work and he’s mad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold top 78 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 I wasn’t bothered about the leaks when they came out but it shows how sad things are in GNR world when fans have to pay 15 grand for 20 year old songs all because Axl doesn’t act like normal musicians do and release music. This shouldn’t need to be happening. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgina Arriaga Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, TheSeeker said: Yeah the leaks exposed that Axl fudged the number of completed songs he had banked - he bluffed for 20 years and got away with it Now he might actually have to do work and he’s mad It was something from 20 years ago...how can you say that for sure? Maybe he simply doesn't want unfinish material around.....or material that at the end he didn't like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willl Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 The Ju Ju Hounds tape is from 1993 when they were on the same label as GnR, which explains why Zutaut had a copy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeeker Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, downliner said: The Ju Ju Hounds tape is from 1993 when they were on the same label as GnR, which explains why Zutaut had a copy Didn’t Axl get Izzy to give him the demo for Down By the Ocean and whatever else him and Duff worked on in 1995? I thought that happened around 2001 - Axl originally wanted Izzy to be at Rock in Rio that year Edited January 3, 2020 by TheSeeker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 37 minutes ago, downliner said: The Ju Ju Hounds tape is from 1993 when they were on the same label as GnR, which explains why Zutaut had a copy Is there a chance Izzy might take legal action against Zutaut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djones1225 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Maybe Axl is mad because he doesnt want people knowing that he is the Macdaddy. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willl Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 34 minutes ago, Padme said: Is there a chance Izzy might take legal action against Zutaut? I've no idea tbh. Izzys disc didn't leak so not sure he'd have a legal case, unless GnR is correct and Zutaut was openly selling these? We'll probably find out more info if UMG does go ahead with suing Rick though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GnR Chris Posted January 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2020 14 hours ago, axlvai said: Really hope no one of this leaks would be on next gnr record. Please. Fuck the shit recorded on 99 to 20XX. Is time to create new music. I disagree. I want a redone "Atlas Shrugged," "Hardschool," "State of Grace," "Eye on You" and "Perhaps." And there were so many instrumentals that were absolute bangers. Nothing wrong with going to older material. A good song is a good song. 8 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) Had Guns released the finished tracks via streaming they would have made pennies on the dollar compared to this locker sale. They really should have sold their own stuff storage wars style and once it circulated they could release official videos and cash in on that money and the publicity for a tour. Edited January 3, 2020 by soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarpatch Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 51 minutes ago, downliner said: I've no idea tbh. Izzys disc didn't leak so not sure he'd have a legal case, unless GnR is correct and Zutaut was openly selling these? We'll probably find out more info if UMG does go ahead with suing Rick though There’s probably something in his employment contract with Geffen (now UMG) that prohibits selling these outright and possibly leaves him open to a suit if that’s the case... You’d have to really prove he was not only the source but had the intent to sell and collected payment. Losing them is not really the same Izzy/GNR don’t have much to do with it. They can certainly cooperate and provide info, but these are UMG’s recordings. They can sue without their blessing. Hell the FBI could come in and pursue further without UMG’s blessing. Rick made a mistake the day he posted he was involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarpatch Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 47 minutes ago, soon said: Had Guns released the finished tracks via streaming they would have made pennies on the dollar compared to this locker sale. They really should have sold their own stuff storage wars style and once it circulated they could release official videos and cash in on that money and the publicity for a tour. Now UMG is suing GNR for the entire cost of the Chinese Democracy sessions plus damages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnR Chris Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 hours ago, TheSeeker said: Yeah the leaks exposed that Axl fudged the number of completed songs he had banked No, the leaks really didn't expose this at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourettes2400 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) Eddie Trunk is on his show now talking about this situation. He was talking about how he was backstage at Exit 111 and that Tom Zutaut was there too. Eddie said that Tom told him while they were backstage that there was some weirdness going on between him the GN’R camp. Eddie said well I guess we all know what that weirdness is now. Eddie is clearly still butt hurt about never getting that interview and I love it 😂 Just hearing the comments he was making as he described how GN’R entered the backstage area sounds like he is still upset they made him move back during that show. Eddie also bragged about being the original leaker of anything Chinese Democracy. The guy is such a douchebag. Edited January 3, 2020 by Tourettes2400 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfanJen Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 48 minutes ago, Tourettes2400 said: Eddie Trunk is on his show now talking about this situation. He was talking about how he was backstage at Exit 111 and that Tom Zutaut was there too. Eddie said that Tom told him while they were backstage that there was some weirdness going on between him the GN’R camp. Eddie said well I guess we all know what that weirdness is now. Eddie is clearly still butt hurt about never getting that interview and I love it 😂 Just hearing the comments he was making as he described how GN’R entered the backstage area sounds like he is still upset they made him move back during that show. Eddie also bragged about being the original leaker of anything Chinese Democracy. The guy is such a douchebag. So essentially, nothing of substance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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