Axl_morris Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 When axl is thinner, he is raspier. Probably the reason why Steven Tyler sounds amazing and Vince Neil doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
registra Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 22 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said: 100%. That was the consensus I received from all the friends I went with to the shows and posts from friends and acquaintances after the shows on facebook. It is really only here that I see any complaints about Slash. The guy is the fucking man. The only one out on stage the entire set. I think that's more just dependent on who you ask. I went to Slane 2017 with a cousin who only knew the main GNR hits and he thought Slash's solo spots(he had a few that show from what I recall) were bad in comparison to Fortus' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundog321 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Axl_morris said: When axl is thinner, he is raspier. Probably the reason why Steven Tyler sounds amazing and Vince Neil doesn't. WHAT?????? Vince sounds great...."Cops hoo-ha-watha-matha me, heestart ma har" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 16 minutes ago, GnR Chris said: I have found every concert I've been to, without fail, has sounded better live than through a phone, especially when it's a full band and not an acoustic performance. So I'm not sure what your rant was about. The person was simply stating he is judging based on attending live, not listening through a cell phone. That's all some people around here do, apparently, is listen to livestreams and complain and say they won't spend their money. I have heard experienced engineers talk about exactly what I said in my "rant" and say the exact same thing, so unless you can one up that, you know what to do! Obviously the sound isn't as good, that's next to impossible to capture but it is damn close to the sound that you're getting direct to your ears. It's going to be a little more tinny and maybe if there's hard panning you might hear more of one thing than an other if you're hard left or right but besides that the quality is amazing.... as can be seen from lots of fan cam projects. Maybe that doesn't fit your argument though? Also, that person was arguing that you can't judge a vocal performance from a live video recorded from a phone. Yes, yes you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felixGNR Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, hudsonsaul said: Haven't listened and I don't think I need to for the comment I'm going to make. What frustrates me further (aside from what lots of folk have mentioned in this thread) is from my understanding with vocal care, practice, training, and basic exercise you can rebuild you're voice for the most part. It's never going to be like what it was in ones youth, but can still be strong and powerful etc. I get the impression Axl doesn't do any of what I've listed as his voice is more often than not shockingly bad now (comparing him to himself). If you're going to charge large amounts for tickets and continue pushing the NITL tour, at least keep you instrument and skills healthy out of respect for both yourself, bandmates and fans. For all the perfectionist comments associated with Axl of the decades, he seems far from it in a live setting, and lazy. he should've gotten a voice lift back in november. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimpy Hewitt Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 20 minutes ago, Axl_morris said: When axl is thinner, he is raspier. Probably the reason why Steven Tyler sounds amazing and Vince Neil doesn't. Vince Neil never sounded good live though, even in the 80s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Gimpy Hewitt said: Vince Neil never sounded good live though, even in the 80s Thank you! People always talk about Vince like he used to sound good. Vince has never been a good singer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimpy Hewitt Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Just now, RussTCB said: Thank you! People always talk about Vince like he used to sound good. Vince has never been a good singer. Same exact thing with David Lee Roth also 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAU3R Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 23 minutes ago, Axl_morris said: When axl is thinner, he is raspier. Probably the reason why Steven Tyler sounds amazing and Vince Neil doesn't. He was heavier in 2016 than in 2018 and still had so much more rasp and sounded overall much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonfender2323 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) Just saw the proshot People overblowing shit as usual. Axl looks thinner actually Edited February 2, 2020 by Gibsonfender2323 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Gimpy Hewitt said: Same exact thing with David Lee Roth also LOL, I kid you not, I almost mentioned Dave too. You're totally right. Just now, Gibsonfender2323 said: Just saw the proshot People overblowing shit as usual. Axl looks better tbh I couldn't care less how he looks, I care how he sounds. He sounds awful in that SCOM performance, which is unfortunate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonfender2323 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, RussTCB said: LOL, I kid you not, I almost mentioned Dave too. You're totally right. I couldn't care less how he looks, I care how he sounds. He sounds awful in that SCOM performance, which is unfortunate. Sounds the same as he has on that song through the entire tour in my honest opinion Edited February 2, 2020 by Gibsonfender2323 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, RussTCB said: Thank you! People always talk about Vince like he used to sound good. Vince has never been a good singer. Hell of a lot better than he is now though! He was never great but used to be good enough to pull of a great live show. I think he was best during the generation Swine tour when he had something to prove. Edited February 2, 2020 by Tom-Ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, Gibsonfender2323 said: Sounds the same as he has on that song through the entire tour in my honest opinion Right, which is terrible unfortunately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonfender2323 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, RussTCB said: Right, which is terrible unfortunately. To me he has never sounded good on that song live. It's either too much rasp that makes it sound like he has someone shredding his vocal chords with glass(89-93) or none at all. Nothing like the studio version which is like a pristine mid range with slight distortion . Maybe they should have his vocal track added with like a slight overdrive on it (although that may make it sound worse) Edited February 2, 2020 by Gibsonfender2323 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarpatch Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 He simply doesn’t have a voice to perform like the studio versions for a show let alone an entire tour anymore. This is and has been the reality for a while. 1st night of a return is also not the best way to judge where everything is.... That being said, it’s not due to a lack preparation. If he went out there cold without doing anything to prepare, he’d blow his voice out the 3rd week of a run and have to cancel a tour. This is just where Axl is in his 50’s, having to sing with that style and more importantly using different registers. It ain’t AC/DC... If all he needed to do was sing Shadow every song, it would be much easier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Painful to watch ,I think Axl has lost interest in performing rasp as soon as Axl-DC album was not an issue anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jafeijo Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Axl being awesome in ACDC has NOTHING to do with voice registers, it has to do with being an employee of Angus Young and being out of his comfort zone. A.k.a "something to prove" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonfender2323 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Just now, jafeijo said: Axl being awesome in ACDC has NOTHING to do with voice registers, it has to do with being an employee of Angus Young and being out of his comfort zone. A.k.a "something to prove" Or AC/DCs vocal style is basically scream singing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeeker Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Just now, jafeijo said: Axl being awesome in ACDC has NOTHING to do with voice registers, it has to do with being an employee of Angus Young and being out of his comfort zone. A.k.a "something to prove" Yeah I think Axl said one of the ACDC guys' wives made him ditch the sunglasses 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jafeijo Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gibsonfender2323 said: Or AC/DCs vocal style is basically scream singing? I don't think so, it requires technique. Also Axl's posture was different, he had that visible fire. Anyway, just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Is there anyplace where we can see this footage? I have seen mobile footage of ISE and Brownstone and they sounded pretty good to me. RQ wasn’t too great but in-line with recent performances from the last few years. It is a pity that this song was chosen as he hasn’t sung it like the album for so long AND it’s well known it takes a few gigs to get going. Not seen many comments from folk that were there - what was the overall gig like in terms of the band and Axl in particular? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DTJ80 Posted February 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2020 4 hours ago, bdinan said: People who say they "prefer" the mickey mouse falsetto are literally only saying that because that's all we have left. A fat man pushing 60 with a wig that Donald Trump could laugh at, squeaking out all these songs. It's an embarrassment and needs to be laid to rest. I remember when Guns N' Roses were "cool." There was a dangerous element to the band. It's a complete and utter joke now. Axl is a parody of himself. I know people aren't gonna be pleased with some of those words, but it's tough love time. You can't keep feeding into a mediocre product, because if you keep paying for this garbage, that's all you're gonna get. It's been what, going on four years since this sham, cash grab reunion? And what have we gotten; a painful to listen to version of Slither? Wichita Lineman - which is probably one of the songs Axl does better these days, but what Guns fan actually gives a crap about this song? A cringeworthy tribute version of Black Hole Sun? We've gotten as close to nothing new(officially at least) since the band got back together. There's no new single. No new album. I'd stop holding my breath or following the shows. You want the set for the next show? Look at the set for the last show. I actually really like Wichita Lineman?! 🤷🏼♂️ I think the band do really well on it. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaguns1982 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 That was brutal.... they could have at least broadcast something he can still pull off live, even in the 80s he was very hit or miss on SCOM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarpatch Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, jafeijo said: I don't think so, it requires technique. Also Axl's posture was different, he had that visible fire. Anyway, just my opinion. It requires technique, but it’s a one trick pony. Def harder to switch between registers and keep things even and on pitch. Again, if he weren’t preparing for a tour, he wouldn’t last more than a few shows before blowing his voice out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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