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5 hours ago, RussTCB said:

As seen by the dismal sales of the US stadium tour so far, Axl will soon be looking out at far less people. 

If the idea is "as long as Axl and GNR are getting their money, then they still won't care", then it won't matter anyway. But if they're doing these tours for anywhere near the right reasons, then it should absolutely matter to them what their die hard fans think. 

Other than their first run through each city starting in 2016, their 2nd runs everyone was pointing out how bad ticket sales were and how arena's were half empty a few days/weeks/months after they went on sale.  And those were 15,000 seat arena's.  Turns out they sold out or near sold out most of those shows, if they didnt, they wouldnt be making another run around NA in even larger venue's, they would do Arena's not Stadiums.  I think the demand is there, but the urgency to purchase immediately is not, so people will wait until closer to the show date to buy their tickets.  In 2016, people were scared to not get a seat and were scared about stubhub prices being through the roof, so tickets went fast.  In 2017, shows sold out closer to the show date, in my case, the 2020 NJ show at Metlife is July 18, thats a long time away.  With around a 50,000 seat capacity for concerts, 82k for football, I believe they will sell out and possibly add a 2nd date down the road.  I have seen no promotion for the show in this area yet either, so outside the forum or following them on social media, most people in the area arent even aware they are playing yet.  I would expect promotion to ramp up in May/June.

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14 minutes ago, Liva said:

Other than their first run through each city starting in 2016, their 2nd runs everyone was pointing out how bad ticket sales were and how arena's were half empty a few days/weeks/months after they went on sale.  And those were 15,000 seat arena's.  Turns out they sold out or near sold out most of those shows, if they didnt, they wouldnt be making another run around NA in even larger venue's, they would do Arena's not Stadiums.  I think the demand is there, but the urgency to purchase immediately is not, so people will wait until closer to the show date to buy their tickets.  In 2016, people were scared to not get a seat and were scared about stubhub prices being through the roof, so tickets went fast.  In 2017, shows sold out closer to the show date, in my case, the 2020 NJ show at Metlife is July 18, thats a long time away.  With around a 50,000 seat capacity for concerts, 82k for football, I believe they will sell out and possibly add a 2nd date down the road.  I have seen no promotion for the show in this area yet either, so outside the forum or following them on social media, most people in the area arent even aware they are playing yet.  I would expect promotion to ramp up in May/June.

There was an abundance of discounted tickets available for the NA arena run and I'm sure the upcoming stadium run will be no different. 

It's odd that they're not advertising in the NYC market because they ran tons of radio promo across the rest of the US. 

Either way, once the heavy discounts start coming for the stadium tour people will start to buy tickets. 

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9 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

There was an abundance of discounted tickets available for the NA arena run and I'm sure the upcoming stadium run will be no different. 

It's odd that they're not advertising in the NYC market because they ran tons of radio promo across the rest of the US. 

Either way, once the heavy discounts start coming for the stadium tour people will start to buy tickets. 

interest is already not on the same initial level. Maybe the best incentive or something fans can at least count on as a reason for Axl to truly focus on recording and/or releasing the next album

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2 minutes ago, Rovim said:

interest is already not on the same initial level. Maybe the best incentive or something fans can at least count on as a reason for Axl to truly focus on recording and/or releasing the next album

That would be nice, but who knows. The band are going to get their payday for these shows regardless of how many empty or discounted seats there are. So we as fans have that working against us. 

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Just now, RussTCB said:

That would be nice, but who knows. The band are going to get their payday for these shows regardless of how many empty or discounted seats there are. So we as fans have that working against us. 

but will they still get stadium sized offers? how does that work? anyway, it's a shame the band or Axl are kinda taking their time with really going for it with the reunion shows. I guess I can see them not doing much in the studio in 2020 and in 2021 the band could be not active and Slash can do something else.

Even if they said at least that in 2021 they're gonna enter a studio and start real work that would have been at least something. Very standard thing to share for a band usually

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52 minutes ago, Rovim said:

but will they still get stadium sized offers? how does that work? anyway, it's a shame the band or Axl are kinda taking their time with really going for it with the reunion shows. I guess I can see them not doing much in the studio in 2020 and in 2021 the band could be not active and Slash can do something else.

Even if they said at least that in 2021 they're gonna enter a studio and start real work that would have been at least something. Very standard thing to share for a band usually

If this tour continues to sell so poorly and has to be filled with discounted ticket sales then no, they won't get stadium sized offers anymore. However, there's always ways to just repackage things and get the same money. 

In any case, most of us agree that it would go a long way if the band just communicated with their fans. Many of us, including the general public at large, seem to be done paying to see the same show again. 

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On 2/10/2020 at 9:21 PM, Liva said:

"Jaded - adjective; definition - tired, bored or lacking enthusiasm, typically after having too much of something."   I would say i am the opposite of Jaded, being I am not bored or complaining, and I am still enthused by them touring.  Poor word choice there.

Shows I have seen:

Show #

 

Date

 

Artists

 

City

 

Venue

 

1

12/2/2002

Guns N Roses

Boston

Fleet Center

2

5/12/2006

Guns N Roses

NYC

Hammerstein Ballroom

3

5/14/2006

Guns N Roses

NYC

Hammerstein Ballroom

4

5/15/2006

Guns N Roses

NYC

Hammerstein Ballroom

5

5/17/2006

Guns N Roses

NYC

Hammerstein Ballroom

6

11/5/2006

Guns N Roses

East Rutherford, NJ

Continental Airlines Arena

7

11/10/2006

Guns N Roses

NYC

MSG

8

11/17/2011

Guns N Roses

East Rutherford, NJ

IZOD Center

9

2/15/2012

Guns N Roses

NYC

The Ritz Webster Hall

10

4/8/2016

Guns N Roses

Vegas

T-Mobile Arena

11

7/23/2016

Guns N Roses

East Rutherford, NJ

Metlife Stadium

12

7/24/2016

Guns N Roses

East Rutherford, NJ

Metlife Stadium

13

10/11/2017

Guns N Roses

NYC

MSG

14

10/15/2017

Guns N Roses

NYC

MSG

15

10/16/2017

Guns N Roses

NYC

MSG

         
         

Show #

 

Date

 

Artists

 

City

 

Venue

 

16

11/9/2004

Velvet Revolver

Worcester

Centrum Centre

17

5/22/2007

Velvet Revolver

NYC

Nokie Theatre

         

Show #

 

Date

 

Artists

 

City

 

Venue

 

18

5/22/2010

Slash (Solo)

Atlantic City, NJ

Borgata Hotel and Casino

19

9/14/2010

Slash (Solo)

NYC

Terminal 5

20

9/17/2010

Slash (Solo)

Atlantic City, NJ

The Music Box at the Borgata

21

5/3/2012

SMKC

Baltimore

Rams Head Live!

22

5/22/2012

SMKC

NYC

Irving Plaza

23

5/23/2012

SMKC

NYC

Irving Plaza

24

9/18/2012

SMKC

NYC

Hammerstein Ballroom

25

5/7/2015

SMKC

NYC

Terminal 5

26

10/1/2018

SMKC

Montclair, NJ

Wellmont Theatre

27

7/31/2019

SMKC

Port Chester, NY

The Capitol Theatre

 

I would think this would qualify me as a genuine fan, dont ya think?  I have seen all these shows and am excited to see them this summer at Metlife stadium.  Jaded...nah...true and excited fan...yup

 

 

I'm just glad Axl is happy. I really wish they would come back to Oklahoma. I can't afford the drive to Dallas or the tickets.

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2 minutes ago, Murielweathers@gmail.com said:

I'm just glad Axl is happy. I really wish they would come back to Oklahoma. I can't afford the drive to Dallas or the tickets.

Who said Axl was happy?

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3 hours ago, tsinindy said:

Who said Axl was happy?

He seems to be. I mean, this is what he wanted, right? He has always wanted the band back together, as much as it could be, and to continue Guns N Roses.  Whether he wants new music out remains to be seen.

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10 hours ago, Dean said:

7 Tuesdays remain between now and the end of March.

Is there something brewing?

Who knows, but I'm hoping Jarmo is proven correct.

What's Jarmo been saying ? 

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7 minutes ago, IrishgunnerII said:

What's Jarmo been saying ? 

He's under the impression that the plan was to drop an album in March. 

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1 hour ago, Murielweathers@gmail.com said:

He seems to be. I mean, this is what he wanted, right? He has always wanted the band back together, as much as it could be, and to continue Guns N Roses.  Whether he wants new music out remains to be seen.

The band isn't really back together......it sort of is.  He continued to the band on his own, so that wasn't an issue.  You just seem to be saying he's happy, but we don't know.

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13 hours ago, Dean said:

7 Tuesdays remain between now and the end of March.

I think they release music on Fridays these days.. No longer on Tuesday.

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On 2/10/2020 at 10:21 PM, Liva said:

"Jaded - adjective; definition - tired, bored or lacking enthusiasm, typically after having too much of something."   I would say i am the opposite of Jaded, being I am not bored or complaining, and I am still enthused by them touring.  Poor word choice there.

Shows I have seen:

Show #

 

Date

 

Artists

 

City

 

Venue

 

1

12/2/2002

Guns N Roses

Boston

Fleet Center

2

5/12/2006

Guns N Roses

NYC

Hammerstein Ballroom

3

5/14/2006

Guns N Roses

NYC

Hammerstein Ballroom

4

5/15/2006

Guns N Roses

NYC

Hammerstein Ballroom

5

5/17/2006

Guns N Roses

NYC

Hammerstein Ballroom

6

11/5/2006

Guns N Roses

East Rutherford, NJ

Continental Airlines Arena

7

11/10/2006

Guns N Roses

NYC

MSG

8

11/17/2011

Guns N Roses

East Rutherford, NJ

IZOD Center

9

2/15/2012

Guns N Roses

NYC

The Ritz Webster Hall

10

4/8/2016

Guns N Roses

Vegas

T-Mobile Arena

11

7/23/2016

Guns N Roses

East Rutherford, NJ

Metlife Stadium

12

7/24/2016

Guns N Roses

East Rutherford, NJ

Metlife Stadium

13

10/11/2017

Guns N Roses

NYC

MSG

14

10/15/2017

Guns N Roses

NYC

MSG

15

10/16/2017

Guns N Roses

NYC

MSG

         
         

Show #

 

Date

 

Artists

 

City

 

Venue

 

16

11/9/2004

Velvet Revolver

Worcester

Centrum Centre

17

5/22/2007

Velvet Revolver

NYC

Nokie Theatre

         

Show #

 

Date

 

Artists

 

City

 

Venue

 

18

5/22/2010

Slash (Solo)

Atlantic City, NJ

Borgata Hotel and Casino

19

9/14/2010

Slash (Solo)

NYC

Terminal 5

20

9/17/2010

Slash (Solo)

Atlantic City, NJ

The Music Box at the Borgata

21

5/3/2012

SMKC

Baltimore

Rams Head Live!

22

5/22/2012

SMKC

NYC

Irving Plaza

23

5/23/2012

SMKC

NYC

Irving Plaza

24

9/18/2012

SMKC

NYC

Hammerstein Ballroom

25

5/7/2015

SMKC

NYC

Terminal 5

26

10/1/2018

SMKC

Montclair, NJ

Wellmont Theatre

27

7/31/2019

SMKC

Port Chester, NY

The Capitol Theatre

 

I would think this would qualify me as a genuine fan, dont ya think?  I have seen all these shows and am excited to see them this summer at Metlife stadium.  Jaded...nah...true and excited fan...yup

 

 

Nice list! I believe I was at all of those shows as well give or take a few. 

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8 hours ago, Murielweathers@gmail.com said:

He seems to be. I mean, this is what he wanted, right? He has always wanted the band back together, as much as it could be, and to continue Guns N Roses.  Whether he wants new music out remains to be seen.

Has Axl always wanted to the band back together?  I was'nt aware of this...

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28 minutes ago, DurhamGirl said:

Has Axl always wanted to the band back together?  I was'nt aware of this...

Sebastian Bach told in an interview after the reunion that, around 2006 or so, they were drunk bitching all night long about the old band. But then Axl said, who knows? Maybe someday we'll be back together.

slaxl or not, he always wants Slash back. Atleast that's my impression.

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36 minutes ago, Zinia_29 said:

Sebastian Bach told in an interview after the reunion that, around 2006 or so, they were drunk bitching all night long about the old band. But then Axl said, who knows? Maybe someday we'll be back together.

slaxl or not, he always wants Slash back. Atleast that's my impression.

I wonder if t hat was before or after slash rocking up to axls place with perla in toe and calling duff spineless.

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3 hours ago, Sydney Fan said:

I wonder if t hat was before or after slash rocking up to axls place with perla in toe and calling duff spineless.

That happened in October 2005. Baz and Axl didn't cross paths until shortly before the Hammerstein shows. Axl said it was always looked at as a possibility, his words to the media and his rants over the years, particularly 01/02, suggested otherwise. Fuck it though, I'm glad everything worked out in the end. Hopefully this reconciliation can make them even half as productive in regards to the creation of music as they were in the first tenure. 

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Axl is happy. They all are.  The McKagen Family Fortune is secure for the next two generations : his 2 daughters and their children.  Slash recouped  crazy lawyers and CPA fees in his divorce and has Perla's future money. Axl has his money and power of his band's name and stuff i think the shows this year will sell out. I think they might have to go to states they  did go to  so often. I think 2020 is the last year  for NITL Continuation Tour 

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2 hours ago, lame ass security said:

Just curious, why is this thread pinned?

At the time there was speculation that it would be an important show, as in new music being played :lol:

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12 hours ago, lame ass security said:

Just curious, why is this thread pinned?

It was just the lastest show, so it remained pinned for longer than usual. I'm moving it back to the tour section now.

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