Tom-Ass Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 https://www.iheart.com/content/2020-02-11-ex-guns-n-roses-manager-has-theory-about-why-there-arent-more-gnr-albums/ 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted February 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2020 Oh boy... It's gonna be anotjer IzzyFight Thread lol 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Politania Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 41 minutes ago, RussTCB said: Oh boy... It's gonna be anotjer IzzyFight Thread lol lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Are we obligated to give the website a click in order to find out why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ToonGuns Posted February 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, Coma16 said: Are we obligated to give the website a click in order to find out why? It basically says they need izzy to write the songs. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I just posted in the new album thread that the fact that only one album of original material has come out since Izzy quit is pretty telling. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SoundOfAGun Posted February 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2020 Maybe they can use some of their loot to hire him as a writer.... 2 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, RussTCB said: Oh boy... It's gonna be anotjer IzzyFight Thread lol Thought it was time to stir some shit up lol 3 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said: I just posted in the new album thread that the fact that only one album of original material has come out since Izzy quit is pretty telling. Your post inspired me to post this. I had already read it the other day 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Its evident that they cant write without Izzy. But would Izzys presence and songs be enough to get Axl and Slash to step up to the high standards that they once contributed to Izzys material? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamsapple Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, SoundOfAGun said: Maybe they can use some of their loot to hire him as a writer.... I'll personally write them a dozen A+ songs for free if that means we get a new album within six months. Edited February 12, 2020 by adamsapple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonGuns Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Key here is for them not to overthink things. Just release a rnfnr album. Doesn't need to be (and won't be) the greatest album ever. But I'm of the view that a marginally better than average album is better for their legacy than nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post action Posted February 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2020 chinese democracy had no heart whatsoever. it was a disjointed mess. izzy's worst written song still has more heart than any song on chinese 117° sounds like something the stones at their prime would have released, and it would have been regarded as a classic 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DieselDaisy Posted February 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2020 I completely agree with Vicky's assessment. Izzy was almost certainly the songwriting glue that knit Guns together. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedYourIllusion Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, DieselDaisy said: I completely agree with Vicky's assessment. Izzy was almost certainly the songwriting glue that knit Guns together. Indeed, the thing that set made all the influences come together was Izzy. Not having him on the tour guarantees a mediocre album almost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post registra Posted February 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said: Your post inspired me to post this. I had already read it the other day Wanted to respond to your post on the New Album thread, but most discussions happening here so I'll just paste your comment over. Judging from the "Big 3's" last efforts (CD, Tenderness and Living The Dream) it looks like they could really use some songwriting collaborations with Izzy because that was a lot of subpar music from these guys. Think it's a bit of an unfair comparison. Regardless of what I think of the Big 3 most recent outputs(didn't like Tenderness, don't like Myles signing so didn't listen to LTD), your judging the "Big Three" on their most recent albums. What are you judging Izzy based on? He hasn't released on album(from what I could find) in 10 years. The vast vast majority of artist's quality of output goes down the longer they've been around, so it's fairly expected for the Big 3's most recent stuff to not be up to the standard of what came before. It's very possible that if Izzy released an album today it would be just as bad as what the others are releasing. As for others saying they can't write without Izzy, there's plenty of stuff out there to prove otherwise. I haven't listened to most of Slash's stuff, but It's 5 o'Clock Somewhere alone proves to me fairly convincingly that Slash doesn't need Izzy to write a good album. Think it's more likely that the Slash is just past his prime, cause in his prime he was releasing great stuff without Izzy. I like CD anyway, but heard enough in the leaks to completely convince me that Axl doesn't need Izzy to write a good album worth of material either. Just cause the most recent albums aren't the best in your eyes, doesn't mean it has anything to do with Izzy. Most artist has down points-trying to claim that their down points are simply cause Izzy isn't there is fairly ridiculous. Edit: Just as an edit, I'm not saying any potential new material from GNR will be good, they could all be past prime in terms of songwriting. But there's nothing to say that Izzy being in the project would make the album substantially better. For all we know he could be past his prime too. Edited February 12, 2020 by registra 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakey Styley Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Axl just doesn't want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadApples87 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Where's the new album? "Where's Izzy?" Truth is that the original five had the mojo, and as soon as one, or two, ingredients are substituted the results will not be the same. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AxlRoseCDII Posted February 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2020 It’s not because Izzy isn’t there, it’s because Axl is not there (albeit mentally). 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Even though Izzy was extremely important and a major contributor, a lot of my favourite songs on UYI didn't have any songwriting input from Izzy, so it's not like they can't write good songs without him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 59 minutes ago, action said: chinese democracy had no heart whatsoever. it was a disjointed mess. izzy's worst written song still has more heart than any song on chinese 117° sounds like something the stones at their prime would have released, and it would have been regarded as a classic I disagree completely, i love CD though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I do think there is at least a little something to that. When you look at the GNR discog - the only album of original material written after Izzy left GNR was Chinese Democracy which we all know was Axl and co., and a huge unnecessarily bloated saga in its own right I don't think Izzy is essential for the big 3 to write songs, however I definitely do think the era he was in GNR and they were a collective unit was a huge reason why GNR were as productive as they were from creation up to the Illusions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 he can have all the theories he wants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, ToonGuns said: Key here is for them not to overthink things. Too late for that. They have already been back together for 4 years. They have already over thought it all. The reunion was 10 years too late as t was and Axl gets older and worse by the month. They blew it 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, action said: chinese democracy had no heart whatsoever. I think it did have heart, but you just couldn't hear it under all the needless overdubs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gibson87 Posted February 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) I've said it before and I'll say it again- Axl Rose is the sole reason this band has not released anything post-2008. You can argue that Slash/Duff/Matt leaving and the revolving door of band members/management played a hand in the delay of Chinese but after 2008, it's all on Axl. The '09-'14 lineup likely had material to work with and probably wrote some of their own stuff as well. Where is Axl in all of this? We've heard from various people involved with the band that he doesn't show up to soundcheck most of the time and based on his voice at the start of new tour legs, he probably doesn't show up to rehearsal either. I know we don't like the runaround we get multiple times a year, but the band members probably aren't lying about new material. They're just waiting on Axl to do his thing and he's clearly not doing it. It's a really slow day at work Edited February 12, 2020 by Gibson_Guy87 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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