YourMother'sDruthers Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 37 minutes ago, JohnnyRais said: You should lock down this forum. and send a message to TB, AXl etc. that basically says "Fuck U, we are no longer going to support you cunts" They don't give a shit about us, and with the emergency the world is facing right now, they showed us even more. No news, nothing, not even a word from them. for the first time in my life I don't give a shit about GnR anymore... too late, sorry. This will be my last visit on this site. It's been nice coming here many times and read your topics and go through comments. stay safe guys. You do realize gnr is not affiliated with this forum and you’d only be “punishing” those that own operate it, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Gnr just sucks now , no matter what the topic is. Just accept this and forget about it. They don't deserve any stronger feelings than "meh". 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duwz Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 3 hours ago, action said: people really are waiting on TB's response to this epidemy? GNR is a rock band. they play music. I find it funny how every time there's something unusual happening in the world, people expect GNR to offer "their take" on it. it's like one of those B list 80s action movies. "Robocop, do you have a message for the kids at home?" "stay out of trouble" here's a thought. For condolence and support, why not talk to your partner / friends or something? Don't tell me you only have GNR in your life. A trademark, like Guns N' Roses, exerces a social function. This is a very known concept in the marketing business. So, the impact of the trademark decisions is transfered to the public's perception of it. This could generate a positive, or a negative image of them, which directly influences the success of the band. In example, let's say Metallica does a livestream about COVID-19, playing music, talking and being friendly. They'll be much more remembered than GNR, it'll make more headlines, and, thefefore, they'll sell more music/tickets. Not doing anything is straight up bad management. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimpy Hewitt Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Even Paul Stanley (who doesn’t sing 100% live during shows) sang a few songs for the camera. Smh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, WildStar said: That's true. I have a ticket for Rammstein. I forgot about that. But I don't know why any band rep wouldn't give an update even if it's just a generic update. It's weird that you go on the GNR and Rammstein sites and the first thing you see is about tickets for sale. Someone is getting paid too much I think, forgetting they've got tickets. Salary reduction is in order. You'll be forgetting to put on your fake tattoos and band member rings soon....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurhamGirl Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Len Cnut said: It couldn't've be more apparent if they'd've come around your house and burned 'WE ARE ONLY ABOUT THE MONEY' into your retina with a high powered lazer pen. EDIT: actually, that would just leave you blind, wouldn't it? Which, ironically, is what you are anyway if you expect shit from the lads. Ha, I love your posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sledge Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Look one thing sweeping the world faster than covid-19 is a feeling of misery. Artists are not political/religious leaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavgnr Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 1 hour ago, allwaystired said: What's weird is that in some ways they DON'T care about money. There are so many things they COULD do to take money from us in a way we'd be very happy with. I'd buy live albums, archive releases, new material obviously etc. But they don't want our money for these things. What I WON'T buy are things like laundry bags, toy trucks, and minature baseball bats.....which serve the purpose of making the band look like money grabbers while also providing something people don't seem to want. So, in a way, the money seems to be not an issue with them. Aside from very expensive tickets, there's nothing to spend any money on. I spend nearly nothing on GNR anymore as there simply isn't anything to buy. On the other hand, I think their lack of any sort of update (or even mention) of the tour that's due to start in a few weeks is awful. People have considerable money invested in tickets and travel etc.....but are being left totally in the dark about any sort of plans. All we know is that the concerts won't be happening......even though they're still on sale. No excuse of "well plans are being made" excuses them from at least acknowledging the fact that people are rightly concerned about where their money is, and what is going on. It’s because they want $$$ with the least creative input possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joaompc Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) I totally agree with this. It's such a shame that they don't think or give back to the fans that put them where they are today. They could release videos for free, they could do acoustic videos online, they could this they could that. But at the end of the day they don't do anything. Is it because they are only doing it for the money? Is it because they are not creative enough to put out there live versions of their music in different forms? Is it because AXL is shame of how his voice looks on videos? Is it because they are ruled by pathetic managers like Fernando? Well, honestly I think all of the above are true. I travelled the world to see GNR for the last 25 years (more than 20x timer). I bought CD, DVDS, T-shirts, Tickets to concerts, flight tickets, spent hours of my live talking about them to friends. I thank them for the amazing years they gave me. But now they are truly a brand and a product of a random Brazilian family. Honestly Slash and Duff deserve better. For Axl, my childhood hero, I really think he as lost his magic. Or at least is stuck in the past and cannot change his version of AXL ROSE from the 90's. Look at all the other bands, they change they adapt their voices and music, and most of all they create and give back to fans. Is truly a shame. Hope everyone is safe! Edited April 7, 2020 by joaompc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvela Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 I have mixed feelings on locking the forum. A forum I went to for years, ( a third eye blind forum) like almost 15 years closed and I was crushed. Then again if the band is secretive or provide nothing what can we talk about? Other stuff right? Lol but is that the spirit of the forum? We are talking about other stuff because maybe we are forced to in a sense and we hang around hoping for activity. And then we just start to lash out sincerely Gary Busy a joke from a post I left a bit back lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfanJen Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Yesterday, the Mötley Crüe Twitter account spent some time tweeting back and forth with fans, engaging with them, showing interest in how they are doing, etc. They also addressed concerns about their tour. Such a simple thing to do to be a bit more personable with the fanbase during this time...which I guess is just simply impossible for GN’R to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soon Posted April 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2020 The lack of cancellations and announcement on upcoming concerts is fucking unacceptable. But the notion that Guns should do anything else in relation to the virus is absolutely mind boggling to me.... 'I got an email from Burger Kings CEO about Covid, therefore he cares about me more than GNR.' No offence anyone, but give me a f'n break! With these artists and celebrities doing live streams from home, its no different than any other businesses - Its all promotion and PR. With maybe some megalomania and boredom in the mix as well. These are the reasons why celebrities are upping their online presence. Its no different than how celebrities might not get paid for doing tv interviews, but its still true that doing those interviews is what keeps them in the public eye so that they can make that money. For some, their online presence can also communicate to the companies out there 'look at me and my following, Im ready to hashtag your socks subscription service for the right price.' Like, Ms Reese style influencer game. Thats not to say that a human being cant also feel good about their contributions to the masses happiness. Like "Im so grateful to have a job where I can help people cope with the cover 19 crisis." And some might get super into that aspect and keep busy creating content. Towards that, Guns did post that covid themed fan art in a bid for levity In closing, can you imagine Axl Rose posting "stay at home" He already spent 10 years promoting that life style!! He's done his part as far as making it cool to stay home is concerned! 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Coma16 said: It's been about the loot for years now. Yep sad part is through touring only not from any new music. The issue going on at the moment with the purchasing of certain GNR music in the thread that has been closed., proves one thing. During 06 to 10 axl could have released 4 albums. If what is to be believed that there are around 48 tracks = 4 albums. 12 songs each on 4 albums equals 48 songs. Thats how many albums could have been released from Axls CD lineup during those years. Guess hes not a creatively motivated muscian we thought he was. Thats plain embarassing. I purely think if the money wasnt as big, slash would have walked from this band. Im sure he has his thoughts on the bizarre management and how the band should be communicating with fans with the proposed shows coming up. People may have booked hotels, flights that need to reschedule if dates are moved. If this was SMKC we would have gotten updates. TB 🖕. The rest of the big 3 have as much input into band decisions as management does, so they are complicit as well. Edited April 7, 2020 by Sydney Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokingarthur Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 2 hours ago, James Bond said: Brian May has been one of my favourite musicians to follow during this. Live streams of him just jamming in his living room, taking requests, and breaking down iconic Queen riffs. He's even posted playthroughs and encouraged musicians to take what he's played and have a "virtual jam" by adding your own drums, bass, etc... I’ve emailed him in the past only to receive replies directly from him. Class act. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 The efforts, and collective interactions among the members here have done more for the hardcore GN'R fans than the band themselves, save for the 2008 release of CD and near endless touring. This forum, aside from great discussion, and some real info, has contributed to some leaks, most notably so the massive Village "locker" sessions, which is the greatest thing to ever come from the band post the Illusion era IMO, even better than CD itself seeing how it is 1.5 albums if you only count tracks with vocals, along with some fantastic instrumentals we probably would have never heard otherwise. Aside from completely new songs like Perhaps, Atlas, and Hardschool, etc. we have high quality versions of existing songs and many, many more most knew never even existed. Would be great timing if something similar occurred soon. Stay strong everyone! 14 minutes ago, smokingarthur said: I’ve emailed him in the past only to receive replies directly from him. Class act. That's awesome! I wonder if someone could send him the leaked Atlas and Perhaps and ask if he played on those versions. Someone did that with the old Catcher leak we have had for years, he may appreciate the higher quality Catcher too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MaskingApathy Posted April 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2020 GnR doesn't do much promotion anyways, so they probably don't feel the need to do anything now. That's ok, there's plenty of other artists who are live streaming etc to watch. If GnR did a live stream or whatever people would end up criticizing it anyway (Axl sounds bad, too many covers, etc). That live stream with Duff was kind of cool though. As far as concerts being cancelled, that's on Live Nation to make an official announcement, which they did earlier when they said all tours were on hold until further notice. So until they say otherwise we can assume that Europe etc are not happening right now. The band will say something only after Live Nation has made a statement (or told their bands to do one). 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokingarthur Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, Sweersa said: The efforts, and collective interactions among the members here have done more for the hardcore GN'R fans than the band themselves, save for the 2008 release of CD and near endless touring. This forum, aside from great discussion, and some real info, has contributed to some leaks, most notably so the massive Village "locker" sessions, which is the greatest thing to ever come from the band post the Illusion era IMO, even better than CD itself seeing how it is 1.5 albums if you only count tracks with vocals, along with some fantastic instrumentals we probably would have never heard otherwise. Aside from completely new songs like Perhaps, Atlas, and Hardschool, etc. we have high quality versions of existing songs and many, many more most knew never even existed. Would be great timing if something similar occurred soon. Stay strong everyone! That's awesome! I wonder if someone could send him the leaked Atlas and Perhaps and ask if he played on those versions. Someone did that with the old Catcher leak we have had for years, he may appreciate the higher quality Catcher too. Yes and yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 27 minutes ago, Sweersa said: The efforts, and collective interactions among the members here have done more for the hardcore GN'R fans than the band themselves, save for the 2008 release of CD and near endless touring. This forum, aside from great discussion, and some real info, has contributed to some leaks, most notably so the massive Village "locker" sessions, which is the greatest thing to ever come from the band post the Illusion era IMO, even better than CD itself seeing how it is 1.5 albums if you only count tracks with vocals, along with some fantastic instrumentals we probably would have never heard otherwise. Aside from completely new songs like Perhaps, Atlas, and Hardschool, etc. we have high quality versions of existing songs and many, many more most knew never even existed. Would be great timing if something similar occurred soon. Stay strong everyone! That's awesome! I wonder if someone could send him the leaked Atlas and Perhaps and ask if he played on those versions. Someone did that with the old Catcher leak we have had for years, he may appreciate the higher quality Catcher too. Was the Catcher leak definitely him? I though it was confirmed.....but then it never shows up on lists people create of 'leaked material', so I'm not sure..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 I realised this years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) They are just a big touring nostalgia act like The Rolling Stones, Van Halen, Aerosmith, Motley Crue, KISS, Def Leppard, etc. MAYBE they release an album or song, but it isnt necessary or likely (which is too bad) You tour every summer, play the hits, some staples, and a deep cut or two as a bone to diehards to a big drinking crowd, and collect a check Its sad, but thats all they are. I said before the reunion, if that's where Axl wanted his career to go he should at least get (most) the original band for authenticity sake. Im glad that happened so young fans like me could see the real deal, but after 4 years, its natural for us diehards to stop caring. Axl isn't really an artist anymore, he is an entertainer. Most people pay to see him on stage with Slash and Duff and that's really it Edited April 7, 2020 by ZoSoRose 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 44 minutes ago, allwaystired said: Was the Catcher leak definitely him? I though it was confirmed.....but then it never shows up on lists people create of 'leaked material', so I'm not sure..... Catcher, yes. I don't think it's him on Perhaps, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 3 hours ago, DTJ80 said: Has anyone asked him to play his original Catcher solo.....😂 He did share Bumblefoot's collaborative cover of his Hammer To Fall challenge. Life imitates art and all that jazz. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 58 minutes ago, allwaystired said: Was the Catcher leak definitely him? I though it was confirmed.....but then it never shows up on lists people create of 'leaked material', so I'm not sure..... Yes, he talks about it here: "'Catcher In The Rye' is a great track. I was pretty surprised to find a mix of it in my inbox this week... after all these years. I wonder who leaked this stuff. Yes, my guitar is there, nice and crisply recorded. It was a blast doing the sessions. I had flown out to LA specially to play on the record for Axl. I've sat on whatever I have or know about these songs ever since that moment... out of respect for Axl... confidentiality is part of respect for me. So I will watch with interest. I like the track a lot and always did .. and it still sounds very fresh..." Source: http://bravewords.com/news/queen-guitarist-brian-may-featured-on-leaked-guns-n-roses-track 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 4 hours ago, gavgnr said: I was sure of this before Coronavirus Absolutely. There were so many things GN'R could be doing as a nixe gesture to their fans before all of this, it doesn't surprise me in the last that they're not now. Also, if and when they finally get around to acknowledging the situation regarding the tour, I would bet one million dollars that they'll post a vague "tour is postponed" message with little to know detail about what to expect. They sure as shit aren't going to remotely think about issuing refunds as the money is the only thing they actually care about. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
©GnrPersia Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, RussTCB said: Absolutely. There were so many things GN'R could be doing as a nixe gesture to their fans before all of this, it doesn't surprise me in the last that they're not now. Also, if and when they finally get around to acknowledging the situation regarding the tour, I would bet one million dollars that they'll post a vague "tour is postponed" message with little to know detail about what to expect. They sure as shit aren't going to remotely think about issuing refunds as the money is the only thing they actually care about. GNR in fact turned into jackass for fans very long time ago. My early memory of such behaviour is when they decided not to live stream their show at Pukkelpop 2002. That whole festival was streamed live except GNR. Guess was the same case before that in Summer Sonic festival in Japan. I guess ever since Beta became Axl's personal assistant (and later manager) the whole band-fans relationship turned into a totally different game. Edited April 7, 2020 by ©GnrPersia 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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