jamillos Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, jamillos said: It’s not pointless, because there’s no particular aim or effort – it’s just venting frustration. And the guy doesn’t need much to get offended either. I mean, honestly, when you read his comments, he’s being sarcastic, condescending, and bitter even on the tiniest occasions. If he was a proper PR person and not just a gig-booking manager, he’d address the public – the fans community – properly. Yet he’s chosen shady unofficial platforms like Reddit or Discord, so how can one expect civilized conversations without trolls and jerks when one chooses such communication channels – and, above all, such kind of demeanour? I reckon you’re not completely one-sided, but what you have to understand is that this is what he’s chosen, and what’s been happening here all the time is mere action and reaction. Do you think people would prefer being constantly negative, frustrated, and butthurt if they didn’t have to? Sure, there may be some individuals, but in general, no. What goes around, comes around. I mean, we can’t seriously compare Guns with Metallica all the time, because we know Guns will never have this level of media/video releases/YT stuff. However, as for Nando, let’s take this example: they have some sort of official forum – Nightrain, right? (I’ve never been.) So why doesn’t he arrange some Qs and As with the members on like a quarterly basis or whatever? We’re talking about questions pre-chosen by the mods/admins so as to avoid hissy fits and other mess, kind of like it happened here and elsewhere with "Dexter". It would/could clear up a lot of stuff, and even he himself would have a better feeling about the overall communication. Another thing is, if Nando doesn’t want to do that or is not really capable of, would it be so hard to hire a PR person with real experience? Nando has no experience of this kind other than with GNR afaik, and that’s not real experience, that’s just a pile of crap. Yet all we’re presented with all the time is him being at a loss regarding fans communication. I understand Axl and Slash are old-school guys, so I wouldn’t expect too much from them in this regard, but this guy is a generation younger – but still sounds like a 60-year old grumpy dude who can’t, for the love of god, come to terms with the whole thing. Bottom line: we’re not the ones who are attacking him/TB out of pleasure; it’s his/their incompetence (whether to act or to hire someone who can), and in that case, the consequences he has to face are fully justified. Off the soapbox now. Edited June 19, 2020 by jamillos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Fuck @Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JimiRose Posted June 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2020 16 hours ago, Mysteron said: Surely you can put forward your point without the profanities Not nice to read Sadly not. Considering the lyrical content of the band page we are discussing, it is an apt way to describe the trainwreck of a manager 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOS--LOA Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 10 hours ago, jamillos said: It’s not pointless, because there’s no particular aim or effort – it’s just venting frustration. And the guy doesn’t need much to get offended either. I mean, honestly, when you read his comments, he’s being sarcastic, condescending, and bitter even on the tiniest occasions. If he was a proper PR person and not just a gig-booking manager, he’d address the public – the fans community – properly. Yet he’s chosen shady unofficial platforms like Reddit or Discord, so how can one expect civilized conversations without trolls and jerks when one chooses such communication channels – and, above all, such kind of demeanour? I reckon you’re not completely one-sided, but what you have to understand is that this is what he’s chosen, and what’s been happening here all the time is mere action and reaction. Do you think people would prefer being constantly negative, frustrated, and butthurt if they didn’t have to? Sure, there may be some individuals, but in general, no. What goes around, comes around. Fernando acts just like his mom. I still remember getting into arguments with Beta over her terrible attitude over on the other forum years ago. Such abrasive entitled people. Good times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimpy Hewitt Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Just announced another NITLT Selects Video today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillBailey Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 (edited) I wonder if we will see Axl haha (more than 15 seconds i mean!) Edited June 19, 2020 by WillBailey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskingApathy Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alangarcianr Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 That’s his sweet child jacket right? Maybe we’ll se SCOM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskingApathy Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Only one song in the Instagram post though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR_RNR Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 (edited) ooh it's going to be 30 minutes of video Edited June 19, 2020 by GNR_RNR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfanMILO Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 This video will be 30 minutes long. And you can tell from the trailer WTTJ will be one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGeneral Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Soo ... since this is Fernando's work I'm guessing Attitude and the two Download pro shots we already know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feli1269 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 YEEEEEES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGeneral Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Okay, 30 minutes, let me change my opinion. Attitude, WTTJ, Slash solo/SCOM is what I'm guessing. Still leaves us with around 10 minutes. I just hope this time we get more Axl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangom1 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Surprised they picked download, I was there and Axls voice broke alot, looking forward to seeing it though and reliving a great day/ night 🍻 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 From the Instagram and Twitter snippet, the audio is not mono, but somehow Slash's guitar is in the center channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manfisman Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Fernandid! Let's see how this looks. I don't remember much about the Download show. Was there any particularly good performance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangom1 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 He wore the white jacket for you could be mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surforia Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Nice to see some movement here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stress Fracture Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 The previous pro shot footage from this show is a lot different from what we saw of the big screen footage on the first Selects. A better audio mix too. Hopefully it’s all like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDemocracyRose Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 2018 wasn't a good year. Why pick Download!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskingApathy Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Hope the mix is better this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Guess all the bad in the world has finally ceased and Fernando is in a position to approve releases again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGeneral Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dangom1 said: He wore the white jacket for you could be mine Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiff Competition Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Just watch Download 2007 instead. Much better.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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