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7 hours ago, janrichmond said:

They were not huge imo. 

 

What are these ignorant statements? 

Why are you so angry? It's only your 4th post :facepalm:

Your opinion isn’t right. I’m not angry, I’m bored. You may not realise but I rarely post here. I used to be on ChineseDemocracy.com and NewGnr.Com. I know more and have seen this band more than the fair weather fan.

The band from 2000-2006 live was much better than this because they mixed it up and there was some interest. I was at the club in London, watching as Axl Rose sat with 6 pretty ladies drinking bottles of Peroni Red. I’ve met Robin Finck on many meets and Tommy Stinson too, I’ve met most of them apart from Axl.

So here’s the thing, my post count may be low, but you don’t know me and to say I’m angry is hilarious. I, like many fans am bored. I just don’t spend all my days here like a devoted sheep.

The ignorance in your statement is why I stayed away from this forum for so long. This and HTGTH were the laughing stock of the forums back in the day. So, your face palm is ill placed, and thank you for your irrelevant opinion.

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6 hours ago, WildStar said:

A Blink-182 discussion! Bit of excitement here. 

Blink were never massive or huge in the UK. They have never played Download Festival or a done a stadium tour. Some arena tours and Leeds Festival. I saw them once. Started off OK but tailed off quickly. 

Now which Rock fans watched Top Of The Pops? 

Queen, David Bowie, Def Leppard, Nirvana amongst many others played on Top Of The Pops and the show regularly pulled in 18 million viewers at its peak. In the 90s and early 2000s it was watched by millions still before Greg Dyke and the BBC messed around with it. YouTube and things didn’t exist for music videos and not everyone had MTV or basic cable/satellite.

The Blink-182 argument can be compared to any other band releasing music at the minute. Pearl Jam aren’t huge in the UK, Guns N’ Roses are not a big deal anymore. They announce big stadium shows but where’s the longer tours? They don’t happen anymore. The joy of seeing them somewhere like London Docklands back in 2002, or the 2006 European tour where I saw them four times, even going to Rock Am Ring.

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4 hours ago, fowlerisgod said:

They are very well known in the UK...and everywhere else on the fucking planet

It is making me laugh at how much anger there seems to be at my not knowing Blink,  gosh I do apologise:bitchfight:  I have googled to find their music is seen as  'pop punk' (maybe why on Top of the Pops) and the worst critique in the history of NME, begining 'why dont they go back'....each to their own.  As for all these bands having put out more stuff than GNR, is any of it anywhere near the genius of Appetite, it is what it is.

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5 minutes ago, DurhamGirl said:

It is making me laugh at how much anger there seems to be at my not knowing Blink,  gosh I do apologise:bitchfight:  I have googled to find their music is seen as  'pop punk' (maybe why on Top of the Pops) and the worst critique in the history of NME, begining 'why dont they go back'....each to their own.  As for all these bands having put out more stuff than GNR, is any of it anywhere near the genius of Appetite, it is what it is.

I think some people, myself included, thought maybe you came off a little harsh when you tried to mask your ignorance of Blink182’s existence by the fact that Guns N Roses exists and therefore because of that we should discredit everything everyone else does. And to quote NBA Youngboy, another artist you probably have no idea exists, “it make no sense” 

and I keep hearing that narrative over and over again about new music not being the same at the old stuff, etc. Appetite? Comparing other artists work to it, especially 33 years later is pretty pointless. You know how much has changed since then? You know how much has changed since last WEEK? If Appetite is all you want, just listen to that for the rest of your life.
 

In my opinion nothing can top what GNR have already done, but at this rate it’s not even about putting out a masterpiece. You can’t hold anyone to that standard. You let them release something, listen to it with an open mind, then formulate an opinion on it. But its almost like some fans are stuck in 1987.  No one wants evolution. Chi Dem era of GNR was a rollercoaster. NITL was great. Whats next? 

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13 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said:

I think some people, myself included, thought maybe you came off a little harsh when you tried to mask your ignorance of Blink182’s existence by the fact that Guns N Roses exists and therefore because of that we should discredit everything everyone else does. And to quote NBA Youngboy, another artist you probably have no idea exists, “it make no sense” 

and I keep hearing that narrative over and over again about new music not being the same at the old stuff, etc. Appetite? Comparing other artists work to it, especially 33 years later is pretty pointless. You know how much has changed since then? You know how much has changed since last WEEK? If Appetite is all you want, just listen to that for the rest of your life.
 

In my opinion nothing can top what GNR have already done, but at this rate it’s not even about putting out a masterpiece. You can’t hold anyone to that standard. You let them release something, listen to it with an open mind, then formulate an opinion on it. But its almost like some fans are stuck in 1987.  No one wants evolution. Chi Dem era of GNR was a rollercoaster. NITL was great. Whats next? 

Oh dear lighten up a bit, no I was not trying to mask my ignorance of not knowing Blink, I was letting it show, no shame in not knowing a particular Band although I have to say I am not sure how I missed out/

 

By the way I am a new fan of GNR, I came across them about six months ago as did a few of my friends...they will never lose their relevance.

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34 minutes ago, DurhamGirl said:

Oh dear lighten up a bit, no I was not trying to mask my ignorance of not knowing Blink, I was letting it show, no shame in not knowing a particular Band although I have to say I am not sure how I missed out/

 

By the way I am a new fan of GNR, I came across them about six months ago as did a few of my friends...they will never lose their relevance.

May ask and im not trying to be rude, and i mean this respectfully,  but how old are you that you have just got into GNR?.

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6 hours ago, DefinitelyInThisLifetime said:

Queen, David Bowie, Def Leppard, Nirvana amongst many others played on Top Of The Pops and the show regularly pulled in 18 million viewers at its peak. In the 90s and early 2000s it was watched by millions still before Greg Dyke and the BBC messed around with it. YouTube and things didn’t exist for music videos and not everyone had MTV or basic cable/satellite.

The Blink-182 argument can be compared to any other band releasing music at the minute. Pearl Jam aren’t huge in the UK, Guns N’ Roses are not a big deal anymore. They announce big stadium shows but where’s the longer tours? They don’t happen anymore. The joy of seeing them somewhere like London Docklands back in 2002, or the 2006 European tour where I saw them four times, even going to Rock Am Ring.

I hear ya. GNR are boring at the moment. So much so that the mention of Blink pricked my interest. At this stage I would prefer solo projects from GNR with new music and more tours.

You know since the 2012 UK tour GNR have played 3 UK shows and one was a Festival. Piss poor by anyones standards. 

I have to confess to being a old school TOTP fan but it went way downhill towards the end. 

And in my opinion Blink were never huge in the UK. I'd say big-ish

7 hours ago, fowlerisgod said:

They are very well known in the UK...and everywhere else on the fucking planet

They were no Robbie Fowler 

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2 hours ago, DurhamGirl said:

Oh dear lighten up a bit, no I was not trying to mask my ignorance of not knowing Blink, I was letting it show, no shame in not knowing a particular Band although I have to say I am not sure how I missed out/

 

By the way I am a new fan of GNR, I came across them about six months ago as did a few of my friends...they will never lose their relevance.

You need to take a long hard look at yourself, sit down and watch Kerrang Music TV for the next 2 weeks! Please take notes

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Didn't Axl drive over the only copy of 'Legend of the Red Panda' because he was angry with Ashba for giving the title away ? (then kicked Ashba out of the band) 

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9 minutes ago, oldnews said:

Didn't Axl drive over the only copy of 'Legend of the Red Panda' because he was angry with Ashba for giving the title away ? (then kicked Ashba out of the band) 

Sounds like a funny story, but no. 

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I think at the moment, even Ashba is missed. Dude looked like an emo Mickey Rourke with a guitar but at least having him and bumblefoot both playing had some quirkiness. It’s a shame the locker leaks weren’t in 2010. At least Ron would have snuck in the odd glimpse of the songs cheekily like with Estranged and Don’t Cry. 

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On 6/1/2020 at 3:35 PM, DefinitelyInThisLifetime said:

I think at the moment, even Ashba is missed. Dude looked like an emo Mickey Rourke with a guitar but at least having him and bumblefoot both playing had some quirkiness. It’s a shame the locker leaks weren’t in 2010. At least Ron would have snuck in the odd glimpse of the songs cheekily like with Estranged and Don’t Cry. 

'The Ballad of Death' is a masterpiece

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On 6/1/2020 at 10:35 AM, DefinitelyInThisLifetime said:

I think at the moment, even Ashba is missed. Dude looked like an emo Mickey Rourke with a guitar but at least having him and bumblefoot both playing had some quirkiness. It’s a shame the locker leaks weren’t in 2010. At least Ron would have snuck in the odd glimpse of the songs cheekily like with Estranged and Don’t Cry. 

No. Ashba is definitely not missed. In fact, I'm still trying to scrub his Demented™ presence in the band from my brain, six years later.

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1 hour ago, Gunner927 said:

No. Ashba is definitely not missed. In fact, I'm still trying to scrub his Demented™ presence in the band from my brain, six years later.

 

1 hour ago, oldnews said:

'The Ballad of Death' is a masterpiece

The thing is, at least he had some presence. I mean the man looked like any fucker you’d want to punch out in a bizarre Criss Angel mindfuck kind of way, but at least it was something....at least we had something to discuss when he butchers solos. Now it’s.....oh they play the same shit over and over.

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10 minutes ago, DefinitelyInThisLifetime said:

 

The thing is, at least he had some presence. I mean the man looked like any fucker you’d want to punch out in a bizarre Criss Angel mindfuck kind of way, but at least it was something....at least we had something to discuss when he butchers solos. Now it’s.....oh they play the same shit over and over.

I’d rather see slash play the same songs every night than a fuckwad like ashba ruin the songs i love.

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2 hours ago, oldnews said:

'The Ballad of Death' is a masterpiece

The studio recording was horrible. And i don't like it in general. 'La Bella Vita' is much better. Probably the best rock solo, i've heard in the last decade. Sounds like a mix between Slash and Sambora. And Ashba is much more talented than 4tus. His tone fits better with Slash's.

4tus and Bumblefoot are my least favourites musically. 

 

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From a technical standpoint, isn't 4tus better than Slash? If I recall correctly, he plays some of the Bucket stuff from CD in more recent live performances.

My dream lineup is the 2002 lineup. It's too bad they didn't release a double album.

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55 minutes ago, StayofExecution2020 said:

I’d rather see slash play the same songs every night than a fuckwad like ashba ruin the songs i love.

Nah you would rather call for threats against people you dissagree with

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11 minutes ago, Sweersa said:

From a technical standpoint, isn't 4tus better than Slash? If I recall correctly, he plays some of the Bucket stuff from CD in more recent live performances.

My dream lineup is the 2002 lineup. It's too bad they didn't release a double album.

From a technical standpoint, yes.

And come on now people, you don't want fucking Ashba back, that's just a very  stupid thing to say.

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Ashba is a nice guy. Met him at a sixx am concert and he was nice to the fans. Funny thing that the first person in the line for the m&g and the concert was that Asian lady who follows GNR everywhere. She was nice too

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Off topic, but before Bring it Back Home starts on rumbo tapes you get a weird mix of Just Another Sunday too & before JAS, it has a few seconds of the unreleased Arkeen / Axl song Sunny Lovers Day.

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50 minutes ago, alangarcianr said:

Ashba is a nice guy. Met him at a sixx am concert and he was nice to the fans. Funny thing that the first person in the line for the m&g and the concert was that Asian lady who follows GNR everywhere. She was nice too

From what I’ve been told, he’s quite humble and appreciative. Having met Ron Thal, he’s the same. 

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1 hour ago, DefinitelyInThisLifetime said:

From what I’ve been told, he’s quite humble and appreciative. Having met Ron Thal, he’s the same. 

Yeah! I’ve met BBF too and he was very nice. He came to Argentina to give a master class and then he played a show. It was nice to hear the Catcher solo

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