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  1. Apologies for having to take the forum offline for a few days. Forum hosting costs being what they are, it's is financially unfeasible to run a forum like this one where people only show up for the first show of every tour. Previous first shows cause hosting costs to jump dramatically. I was happy to pay for the increased costs for two reasons: 1) People would often stick around and support the forum through their frequent visits and use. 2) The excitement or possibility of something new from the band made paying out of pocket for increased costs tolerable. Neither of those two conditions exist anymore. Had GNR given forum fans something new or exciting to talk about, we would have kept the forum open. But I hope everyone can understand why I opted to shut the forum down for two days. My appetite to spend hundreds of extra dollars for a band that has been playing the same show for the past five years is gone. We appreciate your cooperation and understanding. Cheers!
    46 points
  2. The current state of Guns N' Roses.
    30 points
  3. I kept quiet about it, but I decided to go down for the Hershey gig at the last minute. I had previously said I wouldn't go see GN'R again until things really change after Montreal 2017, but I decided to break down and give them another shot on Saturday. In 2017 it was really just a case of, I'd seen four NITL shows that were all nearly identical over two years, I couldn't see shelling out that kind of money continually for largely the same show. Truth be told, GN'R wasn't even really the reason I went - I was just looking for a good excuse to go beer shopping/hunting in the Harrisburg area That, and I was really keen to see WVH. When the tickets dropped to $29, it was hard to say no. As I said above, I had my personal reasons to stop going to GN'R gigs after 2017. It just wasn't for me anymore, plain and simple. If they came back with a new album or a significantly revamped setlist, I'd be the first in line to go to another gig or gigs. The gigs in 2016 and 2017 were good, the band was tight, energized, and yet professional. But after the other night, I can definitively say I am done with this band in any financial sense until things seriously change. What I saw Saturday night was a trainwreck in nearly every sense. First things first - the schedule for the gig was a joke. The venue sends out an email the day before the gig saying the show time has been pushed forward from 7 PM to 6 PM, and the doors time from 6 PM to 5 PM. Great! That means more time for GN'R, right? Wrong. The show starts late - Wolfgang goes on at 6:45, just fifteen minutes ahead of his originally scheduled start time. After his (perfectly reasonable length) set, there is an astounding 55 minute set change between WVH and GN'R - putting GN'R onstage at roughly 8:25. Which, because of the strict 11 PM curfew at Hershey, gave us a roughly 2 hour 20 minute set, which I believe is one of the shortest yet from the NITL lineup. Now, I get it - production delays happen, particularly on the first night. But, something should give somewhere to make up some time; cut Wolfie down to 35 minutes, work double-time for the set change...something to try and buy back any of the time lost. All of that rolls into my next point - the setlist. I'm not going to try and judge too harshly on the setlist itself, as it's likely we didn't get the full, intended setlist. But the pacing was all over the place, and the set was somehow both still bloated and rushed at the same time. They powered through a good number of shorter songs early on, but the end of the set was a massive drag. The last hour of the set literally consisted of Slash's solo and five songs. That's it. It's like they got to 10 PM and collectively said "Oh fuck, we have all these songs left we have to play, and they all long. Cut down the jams in the songs, are you insane?!?". And that's one of the baffling things to me - there's so many songs that just turn into jams that they refused to tighten up because of the shorter set. It's not like we're talking about cutting down what they've rehearsed so much as refusing to keep the pace moving. Double Talking Jive felt longer than usual (I didn't pay attention to the exact length on that one), Rocket Queen still came in at 12 minutes, KOHD still came in at 12 minutes, they're drawing out the endings of every single song - SCOM doesn't need to turn into a 7 minute song because they refuse to just end it. KOHD can easily get cut down from 12 minutes to 9 minutes literally on the fly, and still have some of the crowd interaction. Slash's solo clocked in around 10 minutes and it was a fucking 12 bar blues. It takes zero effort to cut that down to be as short as you want. At one point, when Axl was doing the band intros he was sort of building up the crowd before Slash and he literally said "In the business, this is what we call milking it"; a show that is running well over an hour behind schedule is not the time to milk it, and certainly not to joke about milking it. On the plus side, it was nice to see Dead Horse and You're Crazy. On a technical level there were sound problems galore. I've never heard such an inconsistent sound across a gig as I did on Saturday night. At any given time, anyone could suddenly spike in the mix, or disappear altogether. I lost count of the number of times Axl was visibly singing powerfully when he was completely inaudible in the mix - the one that is stuck in my mind is the bridge of Better. Duff's bass would suddenly dominate the mix. Melissa would come out of nowhere for two or three words of backing vocals, and then disappear as quickly as she appeared. There was at least one solo where Slash was just missing from the mix. Whoever is on the mix nowadays should be ashamed, because to call that mix shambolic would be an understatement. On the topic of the actual performance, it was the worst I've ever seen from GN'R by a considerable margin. In 2017 the band still sounded like they had some fire, they were still energized. The other night was the sound of a band going through the motions. I know a lot of folks on here were keen to have the tempos pulled back, and it works on some songs but there's others where it just sucks the energy out of the song. Rocket Queen in particular comes to mind, it was painfully slow, it just seemed to plod along. I can't even really say the band was loose or sloppy, just...boring. They sounded, and to an extent, looked, disinterested. Nobody impressed me on an individual level either. I suppose, gun to my head, I'd say Slash was the MVP of the night, but even then he sounded so much less inspired than he did in 2017 when I remember him really shining (And I say that as someone who is not particularly a huge fan of Slash). Nobody had any energy - Slash, Duff, and Fortus all mostly stayed in the same spot for the entire gig, while Axl moved around the stage (Rather gingerly even by his more recent standards). Speaking of Axl...his voice. I'm not going to sit here and shit on him saying that he needs to stop being lazy, lose weight, rehearse more, etc. Truth be told, he really looked like he was putting in the effort vocally to me. He didn't have the mannerisms of someone just going through the motions. But his voice just wasn't working. I hate to say this, but I just don't know if he's physically able to control his voice anymore the way that his vocals demand. I felt sorry for him because he did look to be working hard, and he looked dejected to me at times that he wasn't able to deliver - I remember during November Rain you could see Axl just sitting there shaking his head and looking disappointed. There were songs where he'd skip every other line for whole verses, Better and YCBM come to mind. It was not a pretty sight. The whole gig ended on an incredibly bizarre note when Axl said his usual "Good. Fucking. Night!" (Albeit in a midrange speaking voice as opposed to his usual banshee howl on it), threw his mic into the crowd...and that was it. No additional thank you's from anyone in the band, no group or individual bows - I'm not even sure any of them threw picks, sticks, etc. into the crowd. Just very odd. I was hoping I would walk away from this gig happy with the night, and remorseful that I'd shunned them for the last four years. Neither was the case in actuality. I am relieved I haven't wasted my time and money on this band for the last four years, and they won't be getting any more from me unless there's significant changes in the organization from top to bottom. Do I regret going? Not really. WVH was great, and the beer shopping/hunting part of my day was excellent, so it wasn't a wasted day in either of those regards. But I'm also not really happy I saw GN'R. If I'm being brutally honest, they themselves were not worth the $29 I spent to see them.
    21 points
  4. One additional note: the forum wasn't shut to prevent people from criticizing the band or shitting on any one member. It was purely a financial decision. Due to our hosting provider increasing costs so dramatically due to two or three busy days, it's not worth it considering the state the band is at present.
    13 points
  5. I became a fan of this band in 2012, so I haven't had to put up with most of the bullshit that some of you older folks have. I've seen this band 4 times since 2016. St. Louis in 2017 was the greatest concert I've ever attended, I go to a lot of shows and that show is yet to be surpassed for me. I've been a huge supporter of Axl since the reunion, I always tried to give him the benefit of the doubt. Saturday night was one of the most disappointing things I've ever seen from this band. There are a lot of things that play into a bad show. Based on the accounts of those that went, it sounds like there were definitely some sound/mix issues. Sound issues or not, I've finally seen this band for what it is- a brand that's trying to make as much money as they can while putting in the least amount of effort. It was crystal clear to me on Saturday that this band doesn't, and hasn't given a shit since 2017. There were some low points in 2017 but even then the shows were still fairly good and everyone looked like they were trying. The last three years have been nothing but a band going through the motions. Everyone looked tired, bored, and generally indifferent. To quote @youngswedishvinyl, "Fuck, I'd rather be at a funeral right now". This show isn't even the worst part though. It's the disrespect towards the fanbase. This band does not give a single, solitary fuck in any sense. They don't release new music despite having multiple 6 month breaks and a full year and a half where all anyone in the world could do was sit at home. They promote this tour as "the next chapter" and a "brand new show" and then come out and play the exact same set. I can't even blame Slash and Duff because we all know who's running the show. It's frustrating when you absolutely refuse to release music to a fanbase that would love anything you put out. I'm not trying to be negative, I'm just seeing things as they are right now.
    11 points
  6. 10 points
  7. Lol, what. What an apologist post. I've seen GNR 7 times, soon to be 8. Also have seen Axl/DC and a lot of other alumni and member based shows. I am by no means a negative poster, dude. I do have ears, though, and they allow me to hear. His voice is just bad This is an online forum, so naturally we are going to discuss what's going on. I don't expect to have Axl come out like in the 90s, but vocals that don't sound terrible would be nice. I think Axl sounded great in 2016, but it's been a steady decline since. Look at Robert Plant, the dudes voice has changed and he always sings songs to accommodate it. Either through setlist choice, new arrangements, or downtuning. Axl doesn't even attempt to make things work based on his current limitations.
    10 points
  8. Here you go, folks. More to come on this tour from me.
    9 points
  9. This forum has never been safer.
    9 points
  10. So you clearly have made up your mind and formed an opinion before actually seeing the band. Your negativey is already clouding your judgement. The final nail in the coffin would have been hammerd in a long time ago and here the band is, surviving COVID-19 and they are still attracting people to live shows. Those are the people the band caters towards and that's the reality of the situation. We on this forum are the minority and the majority are the causal fans, who aren't picking apart Axls vocals or the bands set list to cater towards those vocals. The discounted tickets are not the bands concern, thats the promoters issue, as the promotor won't recover those costs or make a loss on that show. Live Nation will recover those costs from other sold out shows on this tour or the Australian/New Zealand tours. The band will already have received up front payment. In terms of Axls vocals. Like all of us, he has aged and things we use to do, we either struggle or cannot do to our full potential. I am amazed that people would think Axl is some super human, and his vocals and preformence should be at the same level as two weeks ago or 20 years ago. Roger Federer's in his prime was the worlds greatest tennis player. Today he is now ranked number 9 in the world. He can still hit a tennis ball, just not at the same level he once did in the past.
    9 points
  11. @Powerage5 Great review of a shit show, I think you were overcharged by about $28
    9 points
  12. I won't add anything to the discussion. I'm Simply speachless with this band.
    8 points
  13. Axl sounded like he did because he has not bothered to sing or train at all. He had a full year to get a vocal coach and get himself back in order. What happened instead is he walked on having not sang for a year and sounded like shit. They slowed the songs down and he sounded the worst he has ever sounded trying to sing them. I really refuse to believe he is putting any effort into it and is still sounding like that. If he really is training and putting effort in (which I think is highly unlikely) then it's probably time to stop.
    8 points
  14. Oh my, just like GNR! It's a perfect match.
    7 points
  15. I was so lucky to get a Hershey Litho this weekend. I just happened to luck out because one of the merch stands “found” a couple unsold ones at the end of the concert and I bought one towards the end of the show just before I left. They told me earlier that evening that they had sold out, so I was really lucky to get one at the end of the night.
    7 points
  16. It's mind blowing. Heard a clip of Better from the show. It's almost Bridge School 2012 bad. Forget power, rasp, or tone. Axl couldn't even find the right pitch for much of the song.
    7 points
  17. So I was at the show. And I had a good time. There were definitely struggles, there were a lot of issues with the sound and mix of the show. Axl was clearly pissed off. The show ended abruptly. They walked off the stage after PC with no pyro, no confetti, they didn't come out and bow at the end. They skipped whatever else they were going to play in the encore so clearly something was wrong. They announced the show was going to start an hour earlier and then it didn't, so I wonder if they were just having sound issues from the beginning. Might have been why they did so many soundchecks. Axl was fine. I think people are too hard on him sometimes. There were clearly rough spots. But I think there were a lot of highs too. He sounded good in a lot of songs, and going back and watching some videos it's just weird how much better his voice sounds live than recorded on a cell phone. Idk. I'm not going to kill him.. there were clearly issues across the board and hopefully that gets fixed. I think what is jarring to me is when I left the show I talked to a lot of people and asked everyone what they thought and so many people commented how good the band sounded, how Axl still has it, how tight the band was, how good Axl was, etc. And the few professional reviews I read were very positive too. So it just makes me think that we focus on the bad parts like better (oh god that song was a mess) and not on the good parts, because there were a lot of them. My girlfriend for example thought he sounded great on Slither, and on other songs too, where he normally gets killed for Slither here. The setlist being the same was definitely a bit disappointing, but it's also a good set. It felt better without the fat like black hole sun, wish you were here, etc. The band was just playing hit after hit and the band was really good. Honestly I mostly show up for Slash there days and I thought he was awesome. As usual. I know people complain about all the jams/solos etc but that blows my mind. Slash was on fire, and every time he took center stage whether it was the little jam before Jungle or SCOM or his in song jamming like DTJ and RQ it was just a treat. Slash was fantastic and well worth the price of admission. I could watch him play guitar all day. Overall this wasn't the best GnR show I ever saw, but it wasn't the worst either (I'm looking at you Bethlehem 2014)! I thought there were a lot of highs during the show and just being at a show again was overwhelming. Not gonna lie I teared up during Jungle. I have no regrets about going or how much money it cost. Hershey is the absolute worst venue for a concert and I hope to never go there again, but I enjoyed the show and that's good enough for me
    7 points
  18. Let’s just pretend the first posts of the show before the forum shutdown never happened…
    7 points
  19. 6 points
  20. Well, at least he's showing up for soundcheck, which is really a big step for him as he rarely does it Maybe he's aware of the Hershey trainwreck after all. Good for him!
    6 points
  21. I followed them thanks to a livestream. Stopped watching after Dead Horse, it was cringy. Got back and KOHD was being played, so I left again to come back 20 minutes later and KOHD was still going. Left.
    6 points
  22. Suggestions: 1. Keep the forum accessible to registered users only. No more "guests". All the guests would see is a login page. 2. Kick out anyone who registers and then doesn’t log in for a certain period of time, similarly to Discord. 3. Temporarily disallow registering of new users around times like the beginning of a tour or anything exciting of the sort. Imagine the traffic when they actually release a new single... 4. ????? 5. Profit.
    6 points
  23. Hello again, fellow reluctant haters .
    6 points
  24. @Tom-Assasked me to tell everyone that his one and only hope for tonight is that they play Hard School
    5 points
  25. They dont usually soundcheck NR. Axl must be finally aware his dropped the ball. Again this sounds better than the first show.
    5 points
  26. That doesn't solve our problems as much as we would like unfortunately. The forum currently is in "members" mode whereby only Club and regular members can view the forum. Guests can't read anything at this point, but they can still technically visit the forum. Right now thee are over 150 guests who are on the forum, even if they can't read it. Even when I took the forum offline during the first show we were visited by a lot of people, members and guests alike. A visitor is a visitor according to our host provider (since technically the visitor is using up hosting resources), whether they can actually read/access the forum or not. This solution conflicts with our one user per person policy. It also wouldn't move the needle all that much if those who registered a long time ago only show up on first concert days, but are now a guest instead of user. It would also drastically increases the workload for the admin staff. There are 50k+ members of this forum. Most haven't logged in here for awhile. If we were to start deleting or blocking all these accounts, @alfierose and I would likely be inundated with DMs with members who want to view the site when we limit it to users. We actually haven't cleared new accounts for almost the last six months. There are reasons why we have chosen to shut out new accounts that I don't want to go into at the moment. But one I can explain is that the forum population is about the size that works for long-time regular members, staff, and for financial considerations. It use to be a GNR tour or huge news could sustain increased hosting costs because people would stick around longer. That's no longer the case. People will show up a day before and two days after to voice their disdain (and who's kidding who, rightfully so) for how little the band has changed or gotten worse and then leave. Hosting costs are per month, but they can shoot up dramatically if traffic increases dramatically over a short period of time. Unfortunately they do not average out traffic over the month, but over a much shorter period of time. If we have a busy couple of days, our hosting provider charges me as though it's busy the entire month. There was a time where I would eat the costs because I love the community and wanted to do my part for the fans. But I've reached my financial limit to what I can spend on a band that continues to disappoint the online fan community. Interesting! Tell me more! This forum has never generated a net profit for me since the day I bought it in January of 2014. The first few years prior to the reunion the forum ran at a small annual loss, but something that was within my budget. From 2016 through 2017 when everyone was loving the reunion, the forum did return some decent profits. But those profits were then returned to the forum members via prizes (books, ticket giveaways, pre-party drinks) and thank you gifts for staff members (custom shirts, tickets, etc). I did keep a small $500-$600 surplus coming out of those years anticipating a return to loss but that's all gone now. Small monthly losses are easy to justify; larger losses in the hundreds of dollars per month are not. So I do what I can to manage the interests of the forum versus my own financial interests. That means there might be a day or two of service outages to avoid being out of pocket for hundreds of dollars during times when nothing good is coming from the band. If the band were to dramatically revamp their line up, release new music, or Axl found his voice again, I would be much more inclined to pay for higher hosting costs. It's not my intention to shut this down when there are actually good things to talk about. But as for now, there are no simple solutions to the problems both this forum faces and those we face as a fan community generally. The only real solution to this issue lies with the band itself. And frankly, I don't have a lot of faith that we'll see much from them to make our lives better in that respect. Thanks for the suggestions. Please keep them coming if you think of anything else. I really am not a fan of the charity/begging route to keep the lights open 24-7-365. People are welcome to become Club Members if they wish to financially support the forum and receive perks. But I'm not comfortable with leveraging the operation of this forum based on the charity of others.
    5 points
  27. I'm crossing my fingers for @Tom-Ass, @Gunsdrummer63and anyone else going to Fenway tonight. I really hope you guys get something in the vicinity of a bounce back show.
    5 points
  28. Lame analogy. So Roger Federer is still world class, Axl isn't. If a random guy went into a karaoke bar sounding like Axl did the other night he would be booed and heckled off the mic. He doesn't just sound bad compared to his prime, he sounds bad full stop. No professional singer should let their standards slip to the level where they no longer sound like a professional singer anymore. He sounds dreadful 90% of the time. That's just a fact. If you played this show to anybody who wasn't invested in GNR, they would tell you the brutal truth, that this "singer" simply can't sing.
    5 points
  29. I’m not surprised but I am saddened to read some of the things you all write about Axl on here. I’ve been seeing them live since 06 and he’s always sounded amazing to me because I’m a fan. I’ve taken numerous family members, friends etc to see them and they’ve always thought he was nothing short of spectacular. My good lady is coming with me for the second time (and she can’t wait) on Thursday to see them at MetLife because she thought they were incredible the first time around. I love the moments where I see the fleeting glimpses of his voice from back in the day but I love the rest too. Warts and all. Maybe I’ve grown up from when I joined this forum 16 years ago but I’m so beyond nitpicking the level of “rasp” in his voice or reading some of you recommend breathing exercises. It’s embarrassing to behold. I’ve got tickets to MetLife, Wrigley Field & Hard Rock in Florida and I’m gonna sing my heart out at each show to every song because one day soon we won’t be able to watch them anymore (like we couldn’t for 14 years) and it’ll all be memories. For me, I’m going to ensure they’ll be good ones. Even if he sounds like a dog whistle.
    5 points
  30. That is just not true. Cellphone videos (SPECIALLY in 2021) sound exactly like what you hear when you are there. Cellphone videos don't add or remove rasp. Axl sounds like shit live and on video.
    5 points
  31. I know many folks on here will have something to say about Axl’s performance (as they should; that’s literally what this forum is for), but his vocals aside, I think we should acknowledge the fact that it’s very obvious Axl has lost some weight. He looks better/healthier than he did the last time we saw him. That’s an objective truth. So on a basic, human level, I’m really happy the guy.
    5 points
  32. In the absence of the forum I spent the last couple of days trying to process this disastrous show. I can see what Powerage5 is saying about Axl just from the videos. I don't see a man who is lazing about or phoning it in. Instead, I see a man who just can't do it anymore. There were bits in You Could Be Mine where he was struggling to get a sound out or his voice would drop entirely. That's not even counting the skipped lines. He was literally gurgling his way through it and it did not sound healthy for his voice. I thought he was going to pass out during the ending phrases of Jungle. He was definitely trying and it just wasn't happening. I really thought the slowed tempos would help him. I actually thought the final "it's gonna bring you down" sounded kind of mean in his natural voice, but I don't think that was intentional. His voice seemed to drop out like that several times. Nightrain wasn't even the usual Mickey - it sounded like he was literally whispering his way through the verses. It just seemed that anytime he tried anything other than his natural voice it was extremely marble mouth or it just didn't happen at all. I can't even crap on him. He really did look like he was trying, but I'm fearing the worst for his voice. This wasn't the usual first show weak performance. I honestly think there is some permanent damage and it's time to explore new arrangements of the songs that fit his natural voice and leave the highs for the biggest of hits only (mainly Jungle, SCOM, and Paradise City). I think he could get away with only using the "signature Axl voice" on those three.
    5 points
  33. Richard doing soundcheck in flip-flops
    4 points
  34. Maybe he should do that few weeks it takes to get him into full fitness physically and vocally in his own time then? Or if he wants to do it front of an audience, don't charge them? There's really no excuse for 'taking a few weeks to warm up' when people are dropping hundreds of dollars on tickets.
    4 points
  35. I can confirm that this is an exact quote from a text I sent to @Gibson_Guy87 halfway through YCBM...
    4 points
  36. Umm, no... the 2009 Japan shows were probably the most expansive, unpredictable and exciting of this century, and the performances were unreal (apart from maybe Prostitute, which Axl hadn't really worked out how to sing live yet). Everyone was HYPED as far as I can remember.
    4 points
  37. This better not be all that is in it
    4 points
  38. Based on videos, I thought that was the best tone slash has had since rejoining Guns. Maybe I’m wrong here but he sounded a lot better than before, which was still great. Maybe it was the tempo change? Even Frank seemed a bit better
    4 points
  39. Here's my thing with the "technical difficulties" excuse: why/how does this ONLY happen to Axl and GN'R? Every other live act on planet earth is able to overcome technical difficulties if and when they actually occur, but GN'R never can? It just doesn't make any sense and the reason for that is that it's complete bullshit. I said this yesterday and I'll say it again: I wanted badly to be wrong about these shows. I was honestly a little stunned that they came out and somehow found a way to deliver a show that was lower than the lowest of expectations. This whole situation is just such a bummer and "technical difficulties" isn't to blame. An entire organization that doesn't give a remote shit from the top down is actually what's to blame. As I predicted, I was given free tickets to Detroit over this past weekend. I'm reasonably sure I'm still not going to go, which is an unbelievably sad place for me to be. If I do go (and that's a BIG IF) I'll just check out Wolfgang then walk over to the casino for the rest of the night.
    4 points
  40. Fuck you, you're probably right, lol.
    4 points
  41. I just appreciate having somewhere to come and chat stuff, so whatever it takes to keep the board going, go for it. Thanks for making the efforts to keep it going. This place has actually been a real help to me over the past year or so. I appreciate that.
    4 points
  42. 1. Nightrain 2. It's So Easy 3. Mr. Brownstone 4. Don't Cry/Patience 5. Pretty Tied Up 6. Dead Horse 7. Out Ta Get Me/ My Michelle 8. Hard Skool 9. So Fine (no Axl) 10. Civil War/ Dead Horse 12. Double Talkin' Jive 13. Slash Solo 14. Sweet Child O' Mine 15. Piano solo 16. November Rain 17. Shadow of Your Love/Chinese Democracy 18. Welcome to the Jungle 19. Paradise City Cut the covers, songs he ready struggles with (Slither, Better, YCBM). Have some room for breaks, and have the show be shorter. Downtune some of the tougher ones
    4 points
  43. At this point the band should play a 12- 14 song set of songs Axl can manage and maybe find another big headliner to do mega tours with. Pepper the set with some Slash jams and a Duff song and call it a day. This tour should be a celebration. They had 2 years off almost. They should be energized and with a totally revamped concert. This is the saddest outcome this tour could possibly have. The one good thing is that new fans can still get the chance to see them, I guess. Otherwise, I hope you saw them in 2016. This is it, folks. The final nail in the "new music" coffin. Axl had almost 2 years of nothing but time. It isn't happening. The Detroit show is super discounted. I could get great seats for cheap, but I'm just going to keep my nosebleeds at this point because what is the point? I'll go and treat it as a night out, like going to the movies. Pretty sad that's my attitude considering how I felt about GNR 5 years ago
    4 points
  44. I don't think this has nothing to do with lazyness or fitness. This vocal damage/loss of range. Axl sings way above the healthy range for his natural register. With extreme amounts of drive while at that. This time was always going to come for him, he lasted quite long. No vocal coach, vocal exercises or time at the gym will bring him back. He needs a realistic approach to the songs, and tha takes time and experimentation. He is probably so proud of his range and power and might be struggling to come to terms with age catcing up to him.
    4 points
  45. I say this with zero sarcasm but I REALLY wanted to be wrong
    4 points
  46. Supposedly this was the setlist: Imagine they finally debut a new song.... and it's a fucking re-worked version of Silkworms.
    4 points
  47. 3 points
  48. Hey maybe Axl's voice is so shot because he has been recording and singing his heart out for the past year! New album with top notch Axl vocals is on the way! Right?!? ....I'll get my coat.
    3 points
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