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  1. Quick! Don't show this list to @Pele!
    15 points
  2. Jason, I was kind of waiting on your to post something on your thoughts about this show b/c you have seen them several times on this leag and I hadn't seen them since St. Louis in 2017. But, I completely agree with what you've said here. I honestly think this is the best Axl show and show in general of the 5 I've now seen since 2016. Axl was avery active, all over the place on stage, really did not see that in any of the other shows I had been too (again from 2016 on). I heard rasp in some songs I hadn't heard in some time and did not once have a cringeworthy moment of vox that I usually hear in a few songs. NR particularly stood out as a song that I thought AXL had not done well in some time and was great. Estranged was mesmerizing. I could go on, but I won't. I went with 3 casuals and they were all terribly impressed and said it was one of the better shows they had seen in some time in general (covid aside). So glad they talked me into going as I had zero interest in going to this one originally.
    7 points
  3. If eating unhealthy was a contagious disease that killed others, then your analogy would work. See, this isn't actually about you. Although I don't want you to get sick -- I hope you won't and I wish you all the best -- I think we own our own bodies and can do with them more or less as we choose. But unless you live on an island with no contact with others, vaccination isn't just about you and your body. Your decision to not get vaccinated affects others because it increases the likelihood of that disease spreading to someone else; someone who might be too young to get the vaccine, or someone too weak to be fully protected by the vaccine, or just someone too stupid to get the vaccine. So when you compare the decision to not get vaccinated as some heroic "I will take my chances!" you seem to forget that this idiocy puts others in danger too. Like driving too fast which is all acceptable to me as long as there aren't other cars on the road. And lastly, if you've bothered to read this far, the more people who obstinately refuse to get vaccinated, the quicker the disease will evolve (because the mutation rate is proportional to the infection rate) and the more likely it is that it will affect us for generations to come. As for the label, so you are not an anti-vaxxer? You have some rational reason to not want to protect yourself and others from Covid-19? I see this where people claim, "but I am in favor of vaccines, not just this vaccine, so I am not an anti-vaxxer!" I don't buy that shit for a second The only reason these people aren't against other vaccines, too, is that they don't have to take these vaccines now and that they aren't bombarded with lies and misinformation about these vaccines. If they were, they would be against them too, but most likely they got vaccinated as kids and can now pretend to be in favor of vaccines so as to not be socially ostracized. But when push comes to shove, when they are encouraged to take a vaccine now to help curb a highly contagious disease that has killed millions, their true colors are shown. Then this particular vaccine becomes a problem. Yeah right.
    5 points
  4. Absolutely fantastic show last night...easily the best of the three I've seen on this tour. Axl sounded quite good, was talkative and running all over the stage. When leaving, I overheard three different people talking about how much he's changed and how they there were blown away by him. Slash is an absolute show stopper. He's just world class and worth the price of admission alone. Where I was, the crowd was extremely loud and into every minute of the show...much different than Vegas. I can't wait for Wrigley and Summerfest!
    5 points
  5. I had a thorough look at the online repertories of ASCAP, BMI, GMR (Global Music Rights) and SESAC, which are PRO's (Performing Rights Organizations) that collect royalties on behalf of songwriters and their publishers, so they list all the musicians who receive songwriting royalties for each song: https://www.ascap.com/repertory#/ https://globalmusicrights.com/Catalog https://www.sesac.com/repertory/search https://repertoire.bmi.com/ These data are the result of the way a band has decided to split the publishing rights/royalties between the members and may not be identical to the writing credits in an album's liner notes - for example, a band member may not be credited as one of the writers of a particular song, but may be entitled to royalties for it. Axl is on SESAC, Slash and Duff are on GMR, and the rest of the members (old and "nu"), as well as the outside writers (West Arkeen, Del James, etc.) are on ASCAP or BMI. ASCAP and GMR report the percentage they control over other PRO's; for example, on a song listed as co-written by Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff and Steven, ASCAP reports the percentage it controls, which corresponds to the combined shares of Izzy and Steven, and the same goes for GMR in regards to Slash and Duff's combined shares. SESAC doesn't provide this information, which would be Axl's share - however, in some cases it can be calculated based on the information from the other PRO's. BMI sometimes does and other times doesn't reports the percentages for its own repertory that is separate from ASCAP. Appetite For Destruction and GN'R Lies In the albums' liner notes all original songs are credited collectively to "Guns N' Roses" and, wherever the case, to additional songwriters (West Arkeen on It's So Easy, Chris Weber on Anything Goes, Reckless Life and Move To The City). The information in ASCAP and GMR confirms what we know from other sources about how the publishing was split between the members: Axl 25%, Slash, Izzy and Duff 20% each, and Steven 15%. For example, ASCAP controls 35% of Welcome To The Jungle (Izzy's 20% + Steven's 15%) and GMR controls 40% (Slash and Duff's 20+20%), which leaves 25% for Axl. In the case of additional songwriters, as expected, the band members' shares are decreased: on It's So Easy, ASCAP controls 54% (which includes Izzy's, Steven's and West Arkeen's shares) and GMR controls 28% (Slash and Duff's combined share); on Anything Goes, Reckless Life and Move To The City, ASCAP controls 41.5% (Izzy's, Steven's and Chris Weber's shares) and GMR controls 36% (Slash and Duff's shares). So what's left is, apparently, Axl's share. Use Your Illusion I and II Unlike Appetite and Lies, the UYI liner notes list specific writers for each song (e.g. Axl and Izzy on You Could Be Mine, Slash and Axl on Locomotive, etc.). However, that doesn't affect the way the publishing for each song is split: according to the PRO's, the four "main" members (Axl, Slash, Izzy and Duff) get a fixed percentage for each original song written entirely by the band. Only this time the way the shares were calculated was more complicated compared to the shares for AFD and Lies songs, so the percentages are not round figures (according to Slash's book, that happened because they had to calculate a small share for Matt - and I guess Dizzy, too - as well as because of the many outside writers like West Arkeen, Del James, etc.). For example, although only Axl is credited for writing November Rain in the album liner notes, GMR (Slash and Duff) controls 47.68% and ASCAP (Izzy) 24.26% - and these shares apply for every original UYI song that doesn't have additional writers (the decimals in the ASCAP shares differ slightly from song to song - it may have to do with the publishers). The remaining percentages obviously include Axl's shares and, probably, Matt's and Dizzy's small shares (the data for Matt and Dizzy are not clear; ASCAP lists them as writers on some UYI songs and SESAC lists them on all songs). So, the fact that, for example, Slash is not credited in the liner notes as a co-writer on Estranged, doesn't affect his royalties. The formula they seemingly used was: first they determined who wrote what (ie. the writers of each songs that we read in the liner notes) and the percentages of each one's contributions on each song (e.g. Don't Cry, 50% Axl and 50% Izzy); then they calculated all that together and determined each one's shares on the album as a whole (at least the songs that didn't have outside writers) so Izzy, for example, had a share around 24.5% on the album; and then they applied those percentages to each song. In the case of the songs co-written by outside writers, the percentages vary: - Right Next Door To Hell: GMR (Slash, Duff) 32.52%; ASCAP (Izzy) 16.18%. So the rest includes the shares of Axl, Timo Kaltio and probably Matt and Dizzy. - Bad Obsession: GMR (Slash, Duff) 33.38%; ASCAP (Izzy, West Arkeen) 47.1%. So the rest includes the shares of Axl and probably Matt and Dizzy. - Back Off Bitch: GMR (Slash, Duff) 38.84%; ASCAP (Izzy, Paul Tobias) no info. - The Garden: GMR (Slash, Duff) 9.54%; ASCAP (Izzy, West Arkeen) 54.84%; BMI (Del James) no info. So the rest includes the shares of Axl, Del James and probably Matt and Dizzy. - Don't Damn Me: GMR (Slash, Duff) 40.44%; ASCAP (Izzy, Dave Lank) 28.55%. So the rest includes the shares of Axl and probably Matt and Dizzy. - Yesterdays: GMR (Slash, Duff) 15.72%; ASCAP (Izzy, West Arkeen, Billy McCloud) 68%; BMI (Del James) no info. So the rest includes the shares of Axl, Del James and probably Matt and Dizzy. Ain't Goin' Down (pinball machine) GMR (Slash, Duff) 50%; ASCAP (Izzy) 25%; So the remaining 25% is Axl's. Shadow Of Your Love ASCAP has no information about it. GMR and SESAC list Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff, Steven and Paul Tobias as writers (without percentages). Appetite For Destruction 2018 reissue (Locked and Loaded) - "new" songs. The Plague, New Work Tune and Ain't Goin' Down No More (instrumental) can be found only on ASCAP. All Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff and Steven are listed as writers. ASCAP (Izzy, Steven) controls 37.48%, so their combined share is slightly higher than for Appetite/Lies songs. West Arkeen songs/"Hell House demos" - Crash Diet: West Arkeen, Axl, Del James and Daniel Clarke are listed as writers. ASCAP (West Arkeen) controls 31%. - Bring It Down Home: West Arkeen and Axl are listed as writers. ASCAP (West Arkeen) controls 50%, so the other 50% is Axl's. - Too Much Too Soon: West Arkeen and Duff are listed as writers. ASCAP (West Arkeen) controls 90%, so the other 10% is Duff's. - Sentimental Movie: West Arkeen, Duff and Del James are listed as writers. ASCAP (West Arkeen) controls 75%, so the other 25% is divided between Duff and Del James. * There's no information at all about Just Another Sunday (most likely because it's not on the West Arkeen tape). Chinese Democracy + Oh My God In this case, the credits in the album's liner notes coincide with the names found in the repertories * (EDIT: I made the mistake to think that the credits on wikipedia are based on the album's liner notes, so I didn't bother to look at the booklets. But I then realised that they're based on the repertories, so there are additional writers who are not credited on the album - I've marked them in yellow). Axl is on SESAC (doesn't give info on percentages). Dizzy, Robin Finck, Tommy Stinson, Paul Tobias and Pitman are on ASCAP. Buckethead, Brain and Josh Freese are on BMI . So the data provided by ASCAP and BMI about the percentages they controls on each CD song may be actually informative, at least to an extent, about each member's contributions: - Oh My God: 50% Axl; 48% divided between Dizzy, Paul, Sean Riggs and Tommy; 2% Josh Freese. - Chinese Democracy: UPDATE: 50% Axl; 27% divided between Josh Freese and Caram; 21% divided between Dizzy, Paul, Robin and Tommy; 2% Eric Caudiex. - Shackler's Revenge: UPDATE: 50% Axl; 45% divided between Buckethead, Brain, Pete Scaturro and Caram; 5% Robin; . - Better: 50% Axl; 50% Robin. - Street Of Dreams: 63% Axl; 37% divided between Dizzy, Paul, Tommy and Robin. - If The World: 55% Axl; 45% Pitman. - There Was A Time: 50% Axl; 50% divided between Dizzy, Paul and Tommy. - Catcher In The Rye: 67% Axl; 33% divided between Dizzy, Paul, Tommy and Robin. - Scraped: UPDATE: 52% Axl; 48% Buckethead and Brain Caram (thanks, @Voodoochild). - Riad N' The Bedouins: 50% Axl; 50% divided between Dizzy, Paul, Tommy and Robin. - Sorry: 50% Axl; 50% divided betweeen Buckethead, Brain and Scaturro. - I.R.S.: 75% Axl; 25% divided between Dizzy and Paul. - Madagascar: 50% Axl; 50% Pitman and MLK estate. - This I Love: 100% Axl. - Prostitute: 90% Axl; 10% divided between Paul and Robin. It seems that Axl reserved a fixed 50% for himself for lyrics, melodies and probably production. Then his percentage might increase depending on the part he had in writing the music. So, for example, it appears that Axl wrote most of the music on Prostitute (since he has 90%) and a big part of the music on I.R.S (since he has 75%). Absurd As far as the "liner notes" go, there seems to be a return to the Appetite/Lies formula (which is a common formula used by many bands): it's credited collectively to "Guns N' Roses". As I posted in the Absurd thread the other day, the song has now been added to the ASCAP and GMR repositories (SESAC is yet to be updated). ASCAP lists Axl, Slash, Duff and Dizzy as writers/royalty recipients. ASCAP (Dizzy) controls 30% (15% directly to Dizzy + another 15% for his publisher), so this is Dizzy's total share. Pitman, who is also on ASCAP, is not listed as a writer. Updated ASCAP listing: GMR has not yet been fully updated with all the writers and Slash and Duff's share: Hard Skool Liner notes: Similarly to Absurd, on the various platforms (Spotify, etc.) the song is credited collectively to "Guns N' Roses". However, according to the press release issued by the band, it was written by Axl. Publishing/royalty shares: The song hasn't been added to any repertory yet. But, based on the press release and what happened with Absurd, it's safe to say that only Axl, Slash and Duff will be listed as writers/royalty recipients - which means that it won't appear on ASCAP, since none of Axl/Slash/Duff is represented by them.
    4 points
  6. The entire premise of the franchise is literally "getting woke", so I feel like that particular hope may be somewhat misplaced.
    4 points
  7. He might actually have a point here. Axl hasn't recorded vocals for any of those songs!
    4 points
  8. Whoever has been making the posts on GNR’s social media over the last 3 days, congratulations, I literally hate you. 👌🏻
    4 points
  9. Watching that gives me hope that they could pick an acoustic set and make it sound good.. Not necessarily during a show but like a guitar center session kind of deal.. Or just produce one themselves and throw it out there.. Just get in a room and fucking jam a little set and film it.. Do multiple takes if they need to. Used To Love Her You're Crazy KOHD| Wichita Lineman Don't Cry Patience
    4 points
  10. 4 points
  11. He probably barely even speaks to the current members
    4 points
  12. One day in spring 1997 I went to my usual newsstand and bought one of many Italian rock magazines I used to read back then. My heart literally skipped a beat when I opened it and the very first page included an "Exclusive!!" review of a new Guns N'Roses album supposedly titled 'Your Dreams Come True'. I went through it line by line in pure excitement, already fantasizing about these new song titles, most of them kinda funny. The story behind the "surprise" release, as explained in the article, seemed strange to say the least. Then my heart definitely sank when I went to page 17 (as suggested by the end of the review) and found out it was nothing but an April's fool joke. I retrieved that magazine earlier today and roughly translated that fake review to English so you can have a laugh (or shed a tear thinking "what if we actually had such an album in 97..."). I'd like to add a scan of the original version too, but I have no clue how I can attach an image on here Have any insiders seen 'Funk The Punk' in some secret songlist?
    3 points
  13. What part of a social media post is hard to understand? The singer was playing an hour away from his hometown for the first time in 10 years. 90% of the people in that building had no idea what was on the setlist of prior shows, nor did they care. It was a special show for Axl, and I'm sure it was for a lot of locals in the building as well. I love this band, but have never been shy to call them out on certain things. A simple social media post meant for the local area is certainly not one of them. I'm glad you went and all had a great time! November Rain was a highlight for me as well...it was really good that night!
    3 points
  14. Rock the Rock Funk the Punk Crop the Pop Settle the Metal Weigh the Reggae Crap the Rap Snooze the Blues Pizzaz the Jazz Disco
    3 points
  15. Funk the Punk and Kissin Mama must have been the big guns, aye?
    3 points
  16. Recapping the, ahem, tracklist 01. Gimme A Break 02. Sympathy For The Devil (Rolling Stones cover) 03. No Shadow In The Sun 04. Funk The Punk 05. Bloody Roses 06. Kissin' Mama 07. Black Hell And Back 08. The Clouds Turn Black 09. Jaezebel 10. The Devil And The Priest 11. Soul Full Of Lies 12. Friends (Led Zeppelin cover) I must admit it would be interesting hearing GNR playing 'Friends'.
    3 points
  17. New album will just be 13 different cuts of Silkworms. Different titles and the whole 9 yds.
    3 points
  18. cool so they are gonna add another 10 minutes to the middle of rocket queen
    3 points
  19. He is definitely looking a bit healthier which is a good thing for him and the performances.
    3 points
  20. Boggles my mind how anti-vaxxers can somehow convince themselves that refusing to reduce the spread of the disease through vaccinations are not causing sickness and deaths of others.
    3 points
  21. 100%. Other thing I noticed, he has slimmed down considerably! Seems like he's really putting into work this run.
    3 points
  22. Holy shit. Finaly seen some videos, and Axl is miles away from a few gigs back! And I'm not one to shy away from calling it like it is if needed. But he's clearly improved a lot. New hope in my veins. Way to go, you red-headed bastard!
    3 points
  23. Meh. Axl proved that wrong with ACDC, just as good as 30 years ago on the UYI tour. Some songs even better actually, he used more vocal control than back then
    3 points
  24. Hey that's a good point - I forgot Axl had vocals for Sympathy for the Devil recorded. That might end up on the new album! Funk the Punk was an early demo of Rock the Rock
    2 points
  25. Like Axl going to Duff’s daughter show? Or Slash and Duff traveling to Europe to watch Axl/DC concerts? yeah, sure, they even don’t talk to each other…
    2 points
  26. There's bits and pieces of it on YouTube that you can see. To be honest it's kind of boring. Slash and Duff are drunk most of the time and Axl doesn't really have anything interesting to say. The Robert John Photography documentary is probably the most interesting thing out there from those days.
    2 points
  27. You are Crazy was always one of my fav GNR songs .. hope stays on the setlist forever😂 at least until they play in Argentina. Went to 3 reunion shows and they never did that one .. is probably with Bad obsession the 2 songs of them i've never heard live
    2 points
  28. I realised that BMI (which collects royalties for Buckethead, Brain, Josh Freese and Caram) has its own separate site that gives more information about its own repertory than the combined ASCAP/BMI database. I found Scraped there: it's 52% Axl and 48% Buckethead and Caram. I have updated the OP (I have also updated the information for Chinese Democracy title track and Shackler's Revenge).
    2 points
  29. "Chemically free of any Old Traffords".
    2 points
  30. I’ll be honest - there is some cool titles in there 🤣
    2 points
  31. The first movie was and still is a stone cold classic. The less said about the sequels the better. Watched the second one at the cinema and that was enough for me. To this day I've still not seen the third. Bit like the Star Wars prequels in a way. Saw the first one and managed to enjoy it at the time based on goodwill from the original trilogy so went to see #2 and it was so shit that I've still not seen Revenge of the Sith. Like women having proper parts and not getting their tits out every 5 minutes I'm guessing.
    2 points
  32. 2 points
  33. I like the sound of funk the punk. Ridiculous article.
    2 points
  34. Iron Maiden - Senjtusu - about 50 times in the loop Jinjer - Wallflowers - about 20 times Michael Jackson - Invincible Pearl Jam - Ten
    2 points
  35. But they don't post it for us hardcore fans in the forums, they post it for the actual concert goers... the only possible thing they can wish for is the only hit missing... Every Rose Has It's Thorn
    2 points
  36. Was just watching some video and Axl sounded great last night and the band might have been as tight as ever. Also the place looked packed. Add that to playing a new song this tour and I gotta say this tour has really been a good success. For the band. Axl looks so happy up there too
    2 points
  37. "MOTLEY CRUE going Grunge"....
    2 points
  38. When we stop talking about it... probably
    2 points
  39. Guys, let’s try to keep things as polite as possible. Wishing ill will towards another member isn’t something we want around here.
    2 points
  40. *imagines you as part of a huge abomination of a human face made up of terrorists and Chinese communists merged together.*
    2 points
  41. @Blackstar This is awesome! I find this fascinating since I do work at a financial news company. Thank you for doing this.
    2 points
  42. It really shouldn’t matter what an old band sounds like. Rock needs new talent, new sound, that captivates a majority. From what I’ve seen Guns N Roses were the last classic rock band to have achieved this. The personalities now don’t exist, the bands are rare, organic sound is lacking. These old bands aren’t meant to carry the torch forever, someone new should be there to take it and run with it.
    2 points
  43. 2 points
  44. Those things have nothing to do with rock music, they effect every singer. Also, rock fans aren't stupid and don't need basic things explained to them lol
    2 points
  45. I'd be happy with an album of songs that sounded like Wichita Lineman...
    2 points
  46. Maybe Axl doesn’t want people to see how great he used to be live. His drop off in quality is remarkable. Look at his contemporaries. James Hetfield, Bono, Anthony Kiedis, Jagger, Eddie Vedder. These guys have maintained quality thru out their careers. Axl is the reverse of a bad before and after picture.
    2 points
  47. That is a nice update, thank you. I think all the released songs are covered by your research now. Again, amazing work!
    1 point
  48. This article started off well enough, but by the time I saw where he was going I utterly checked out haha
    1 point
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