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  1. What do you mean with backing the wrong horse? You like what you like. I happen to like Chinese Democracy more than Slash's combined output since 1995. No big deal, we like what we like.
    6 points
  2. Ive never really backed one or the other per se. I've just liked the music one put out more than the other overall. As big of a Robin Finck fan as I am, that still has nothing to do with picking Axl over Slash. I loved Slash while he was in GN'R originally, but didn't like much of what he put out after he left. Then I happened to like what Robin did in GN'R even more than what Slash did. It wasn't a matter of "oh this is Axl's guyy, so that's my favorite now". It was just (and still is) my personal taste. Every time Slash puts out anything, I take a listen hoping that I'll love it. Why wouldn't I? I'm all for good music from any artist, let alone someone who's worked I've liked a lot in the past. I just never end up liking what he's involved with outside of VR/Contraband. So for me it's never been about choosing between the two, it's just about which music I like more.
    4 points
  3. 4 points
  4. If they ever fall on hard times they can always start the worlds best GNR tribute band as long as Ashba has a kid: the Demented Sons of Guns featuring Dj Ashba Jr.
    4 points
  5. Yes. How dare I criticize this band! You're so right! Axl sounds better than ever and thank you team Brazil by take care of us!
    3 points
  6. Probably what we're dealing with here alongside the idea of 'backing' is that most of us have just become insanely disappointed with Axl over the years. All that promise, potential and.......nothing. I think, as a fan, you'd be hard pushed to be anything other than disappointed really. Given what was going on in 2001 I'd never have dreamed we'd be heading into 2022 with so little being achieved (taking aside the reunion of course....which was obviously fantastic, but has now also settled into a rut). I think a lot of us bought in totally to what Axl was saying in the early 2000s and his desire to be a forward thinking artist, release lots of interesting albums, etc etc. For pretty much none of it to happen, and for the focus to become virtually entirely nostalgia......that's going to hurt!
    3 points
  7. I doubt it. Chinese Democracy is better than any of Slash’s solo work. VR had a few good songs but there again, Slash was working with a top notch vocalist. So, maybe he was the one needing a crutch?
    3 points
  8. I think everyone's best work is behind them back in Guns N' Roses' heyday. That said, Slash just being far more active means he's going to strike gold a lot more than Axl was ever going to with his one album. Just a few of my favorites of his solo stuff just off the top of my head. Obviously, the actual list is probably double or triple this. Axl has maybe a 4 songs I like off of CD. Slash's solo stuff has a lot of generic filler in them, but he always has at least a few quality songs on every album. That's a victory in my book when the alternative is to put out absolutely nothing. Always on the Run Back and Forth Again Beggars and Hangers on Good To Be Alive Back to the Moment Serial Killer Shine Slither Loving the Alien Fall to Pieces Ghost Crucify the Dead Back from Cali By the Sword Starlight Anastasia Not for Me Wicked Stone Battleground The One You Loved Is Gone The Great Pretender Fill My World
    3 points
  9. You should chat with @Pele I'd think you'd enjoy it. Also check out other forums, this one is pretty balanced in comparison
    3 points
  10. You go to 'almost every show' and you don't know what song is coming next? You've got to be joking right?!
    2 points
  11. I'm sorry for you. Hope you get well soon.
    2 points
  12. I tried to consult my crystal ball, but it doesn't give a fuck either.
    2 points
  13. Whoever buys it would need to make sure they have enough room to store Paul Tobias too.
    2 points
  14. Everything just comes across as super lazy, the singles, the merch, the "videos"...like none of the big 3 really gives a fuck. At all. The whole vibe is not there and now we know they wrote nothing new together and all we'll get (maybe) are Axl's failed attempts from the ancient Chinese sessions with a little bit of Slash n Duff on top of it. Is this the worst possible outcome? It's damn close imo.
    2 points
  15. Best post of the thread. I want to add that I don't think we should see it as a race whatsoever because nobody should be betting on either of them. It's about what direction you like. And even though Slash has a lot wasted potential on his releases due to the lack of proper songwriting around great riffs and solos or due to the poor choice of vocalists, he always comes up with a few awesome tunes. Axl's only (full length) release has a handful of good songs that I personally enjoy, despite of buying the album the day it was released and given it more chances than I had to. But like I said before, it's all about tastes. If somebody likes one song of CD and none of Slash's over 100 songs than for him CD is the better work. End of discussion. I won't boycott any work of an artist just because he's not Slash or Axl. I like what I like and that's the only criterion I need in regards of music.
    2 points
  16. Axl hasn't done a music video (to our knowledge) in nearly 30 years ... Why would anybody here think that nearly 60 year old GnR would do videos? Why I don't care about this video being "phoned" in ... Would never in a million years expect an actual music video from this band.
    2 points
  17. Yea the lyric video looks cheap, and it probably was, but they'd be out of their minds to waste tons of money on a music video nowadays. 'Epic' videos like Nov Rain or Estranged would make zero sense... it's not like they're gonna get played on MTV or be relevant to pop culture. They can make a live video fairly cheap, or put the band on a couple of sets or green screens, whatever... but why are people acting like this is a 'real' video? It's a lyric video, not a music video.
    2 points
  18. Slash is my guitar hero, but I don't think I've liked one track that he's put out outside of GnR, including collaborations. His guitar work on a lot that stuff is exemplary, but the songs just leave me cold, and so much of it has been straight up uncool. Much of that has been down to his choice of collaborators. Axl has aimed higher since the split, and while nine times out of ten he's missed the mark, musically the scant amount he has put out has at least hit some highs and has to my ear been more interesting and more expansive. The old adage rings true with GnR - they're very much a sum of their parts. They all needed each other more than they realised.
    2 points
  19. backed the wrong horse? do you think every fan took sides or something? it's a rock n' roll band and shit happened. Axl has his issues and Slash made mistakes, too. They made and released some great music, I try to enjoy what we got instead of thinking of what could have been.
    2 points
  20. I hate the screen shows, like who watches those? Just show the band
    2 points
  21. Nah....let's say that Axl just said "let's do One In A Million". The guys at the control desk could put the lights in listen mode and throw some generic video on the back wall and/or live camera shots. The show would run itself and more or less look as good as everything they pre programmed. The technology involved in everything about a concert is wayyyy more automated than people realize.
    1 point
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  23. Okay I hate to say it, but… Both singles are growing on me a little now…
    1 point
  24. She is, just not sure if it's for music.
    1 point
  25. Putting the graph into words: If we start with looking at Appetite. In the beginning, before the release of the album, the set was still dominated by sogs off this record, and after the release in 1987 it increased to around 70% of the sets. This dropped remarkedly after the release of the Illusions, naturally, when focus shifted to new material. Then in 2001, the amount of Appetite songs increased again, probably as a reflection of the iconic stature of this material, but dropped as more and more songs off Chinese was included. Since 2010, the amount of Appetite songs have hovered around 30% and from a set of about 23-25 songs, this must be considered core songs the band considers too important for concert-goers to drop. They also played songs off the Illusions before its release (Don't Cry etc) but naturally these songs dominated in 1991-1993 after the albums' release, then they dropped remarkedly for the nuGuns era, replaced by more focus on classic Appetite songs and of course the new Chinese songs. Since then, the band has used the material on the Illusions for deep cut to introduce now and then, and the amount of songs off these records has increased to about 30%, the same as Appetite. These must be considered core songs and rotating deep cuts. Chinese songs weren't played before 2001 and naturally had their peak in 2009, since then they have dropped off noticeably to around 10% today. As mentioned earlier, mostly replaced with deep cuts from the Illusions. The band started off playing lots of covers, like most bands, but quickly replaced them with original material when they wrote Appetite in 1986-1987. Note, I do not count cover songs released by the band in this group (so Live and Let Die falls in the Illusions group). Only in 2006, did the band start adding new cover songs to their sets, and cover songs became a large fraction of the shows. Presumably because it is fun to play something else and new (and to our chagrin, why not then play something else and new made by themselves!?). The amount of such covers has increased slowly since 2006 and now hovers at about 10%. If you are observant you might notice that about 10% of the sets is not accounted for, and that would be comprised of songs off Lies, Spaghetti and unreleased original songs.
    1 point
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  27. There are a lot of 'shoulds' in this thread. Also I dont understand this 'backing' thing one would think we were discussing race horses.
    1 point
  28. Well I think that’s a bit of simplistic way to see that time period. Yes, slash and duff didn’t help things but I think they are all to blame to some degree to how the band broke up in the nineties. They are grown men, and should’ve been able to work stuff out.
    1 point
  29. @BangoSkank I think the “axl broke up GNR” is more of a non gnr fan narrative that has become an easy thing to beat axl with. I don’t think it’s one that’s widespread amongst those of us who are hardcore GNR fans. Like most things in life, nuance and context matter. And that’s why I as a GNR fan since the 2000s wished axl had said more because when my non GNR fan friends would say to me “sure axls nuts and he broke up the band”, I couldn’t point to axl saying stuff to dispel their points.
    1 point
  30. omg dude this is like the oldest diss in the history of gnr, axl vs slash whats the point? if somone likes the axl music is just that, if another one likes the slash music is just that
    1 point
  31. Right there with you. I wasn't a fan of Myles for the longest time, I couldn't get into his singing and didn't listen to Slash records after he released his first one. A friend of mine was still listening to SMKC and showed me Anastasia which I loved. I got Apocalyptic Love which I thought was great and then Loving the Dream which I absolutely loved and has become my favorite SMKC release.
    1 point
  32. In fairness that’s a wise move on his part to play drums instead of guitar because it wouldn’t be fair on him because while he may be very very talented as you say he’d be always compared to his dad which isn’t a fair contest.
    1 point
  33. The shows from 2016-present would be a lot more fresh if like you said they rotated a few songs from possible new albums which even legacy acts do. It was basically necessary to add Absurd, Locomotive, Dead Horse, Hard Skool because it seemed like the same selection of songs for a few years. Just one or two new or rarely played songs freshens things up. If new music isn't on the horizon they can continue to dig back in their catalog because there's still some good songs that haven't been played in a long time.
    1 point
  34. I gently say who gives a shit? We like the work their dads did. Look they could be liv Tyler's, Wolf Van Halens.... But the odds of them being that good are low. I think growing up around it like they did can either work in s way where they really get it and the hard needed... Or they see the rich lifestyle and just expect things that fall in place, probably becoming celebrity djs "son of GNR legend, live DJ set tonight!!"
    1 point
  35. They have played plenty of different songs on the NITL tour, my only complain would be they should shake the order a bit. Change openers from time to time, change encores, change de order, etc.
    1 point
  36. I think you're sadly just engaging with a troll. That particular poster has one agenda- claim everyone here dislikes GNR and that they must have awful lives. You do start to wonder really if this place is such an unlikable den of hatred for GNR quite why THEY bother to post here so often. I think if I disliked a forum quite so much I probably would find other things to do, rather than spend my time criticizing users of it continuously! The 'I'M THE BIGGEST AND BESTEST FAN BECAUSE I BUY EVERYTHING AND LOVE EVERYTHING' division is still alive and well seemingly. Or the usual suspects have a few new usernames! Either way, you're probably not going to get any sort of reasonable or rational debate and discussion!
    1 point
  37. They shoud've just filmed one of the tour rehearsals where Axl sang Hard Skool and call it the Official Music Video. That would've been much better than this crap. And Axl looks great in his soundcheck outfit
    1 point
  38. Ah yes, the old "you must have a terrible life if you don't praise the bare minimum effort from GN'R" bit. We haven't seen that one in a while. Thankfully, there's an entire line of rational thinking to combat that. I'll go ahead and take your points on one by one: "Axl is fat" -hardly anyone here mentions Axl's weight. Maybe you're thinking of the GN'R Facebook page or the internet in general where people make remarks about his weight constantly. "GN'R merch sucks" -this is an odd one because what the users on here complain about is usually how they would like to buy GN'R merch, but GN'R gives us many reasons not to. Merch is usually poorly designed, bad quality and takes way too long to ship on top of that. So the complaints on this one are actually from people who want to buy GN'R merch, but are so disappointed that they can't "Axl's voice sucks" -again, these "complaints" come from people who are disappointed because they know Axl can sound better and he's proved that over and over. When it comes to GN'R, he just seems to put in less effort and ends up sounding OK at best. That's why people get discouraged and comment on it. "tickets are too high" -again, this is not a complaint so much as it's a statement of fact. Half full venues, even with discounts of up to 50% offf prove the point that ticket pricing for their last stadium run in the US were entirely too high. "setlist sucks" -most people on here praised the minor changes made to the setlist during the last run. And again, those who did "complain" did it from the viewpoint of trying to help. Pointing out small changes GN'R could make that would result in a more enjoyable show for the band and the audience. "new video sucks" -the actual lyric video isn't what's taking most of the criticism. The puzzling way it came about and what purpose it could possibly serve is what most people have focused on. So, again, what actually happens on this site is that a bunch of fans who seem to care far more about the band than the actual band itself offer their opinions on how things could be improved easily. Most reasonable people can see that's what happens on this site. However, GN'Rs management and some people who think of themselves as "real fans" choose to look at it as complaining just to complain.
    1 point
  39. No one can deny that Slash is prolific. But that doesn't matter much if you don't particularly care for his output. Not saying it is bad, there are definitely a few gems here and there, just that on average it is bland and although his music may resemble Appetite the most, it comes far short in quality and desperately lack the guitar interplay with Izzy and Axl's vocals.
    1 point
  40. Not for five years, man. All things considered, the alternations have been minor, and it's basically still the same damn tour. Missed opportunities, is how it should have been called. Or the next leg.
    1 point
  41. And some will swallow whatever they’re given. Look at how Metallica handle they’re band and back catalogue. I’m not saying GnR are piss poor without seeing the alternative evidence from a lot of other bands who’s stuff I collect. The recent tour I have no complaints about, I wasn’t at any of the gigs. What I heard on streams and videos, I liked. Some of the DTJ’s on this tour matched the 90s. if you think the recent illusions merch isn’t a missed opportunity I don’t know what to say. They could have released some really cool stuff, instead as with the video it looked like paint shop designs by an amateur. Dont assume people who have a problem with one thing have a problem with everything. There’s lots of positive stuff with GnR happening. But that video ain’t one of them...
    1 point
  42. I like the video too. Is it “epic” like some from back in the day? No it’s not….doesn’t necessarily mean it’s “bad”……might be bad in your opinion. There are some members on here who do nothing but complain. Axl is fat, GNR merch sucks, Axl’s voice sucks, tickets are too high, set list sucks, new video sucks…..makes you wonder if everything associated with GNR today is so bad why are these people here and how miserable are these people in real life.
    1 point
  43. He can dig out the chaps he was wearing in 1986.
    1 point
  44. 120% you won't get a big number of changes next year.
    1 point
  45. The setlist was really cool since the reunion waht r you talking about?
    1 point
  46. This is not an argument. These are facts from the CDC website. The virus is real, but are you considering that older patients and those with chronic comorbidities, such as cardiovascular disease, hypertension, diabetes, and pulmonary disease, are much more prone to critical and fatal outcomes? Let alone the fact hospitals (in the US) are incentivized when they treat a covid patient. If someone wants the shot then get it. But when you say no one says the sky is falling..... IT IS when they threaten citizens with their job if they don't get it. It's a bullying tactic. Who wants an authoritarian Government? This is why Joe Biden's Vaccine mandate was swiftly obliterated.
    1 point
  47. I always find this thread amusing. You people act like you'll die if you don't get the shot. It's just absurd. Children are the least affect by this virus. Covid-19 has a 98-99% survival rate if you contract the virus, regardless if you been vaccinated or not. It's all based on fear and misinformation from the media. What about all the other deaths in the world. No one seems to look that information up or even care to discuss them. 480,000 deaths per year in the US are caused from smoking. Has anyone shut down the tobacco companies? 659,000 deaths in the United States are from heart disease. Has anyone shut down McDonald's yet? 599,601 deaths are caused by cancer in the US. but we still use products that contain carcinogens. 1.35 million deaths in the world are from car accidents. Did we stop using cars in order to save lives?
    1 point
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