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On 12/8/2023 at 12:15 AM, oneway23 said:

I'll tell you what: Talk to me about the mix, give me details, elaborate on your argument..a few time codes, maybe?  Points of reference where you've noted changes so that I can see where you're coming from.

I am a pro musician and studio engineer. I worked with Guns. It's not the best but that is how Axl wanted it

On 12/8/2023 at 12:04 AM, oneway23 said:

I really don't believe that it is...

Clearer?  Yes

Higher quality?  Yes

A different mix would mean instrumental parts re-inserted which weren't present or audible before, possibly extended pieces or different takes selected, a different balance between where each instrument sits within the frequency spectrum...all tell-tale signs of a re-mix, a la Rush's Vapor Trails or Pearl Jam's Ten from 2009.

This is really just the same thing we had, in shaper focus.

you got it!

On 12/8/2023 at 11:38 PM, Blackstar said:

What do you mean he was removed? I guess he's not credited because he didn't co-write it.

He wrote the song

On 12/8/2023 at 12:37 AM, WhazUp said:

I have got some sweet open-back cans and closed-back, as well as a modestly decent monitor setup for my own mixing projects, this official release is the same mix as the leak

Then you need better cans hunny

On 12/8/2023 at 12:18 AM, WhazUp said:

Is the question about the fidelity being better, or it being the same mix like you originally asserted? 

 

If you have good gear you can hear the better bits of sound. However, I think this could have been better by far.

The mix is definitely better on the released version vs the demo. Not perfect but better. Plus some of the crap strings have been removed in the pre-chorus. Can hear Slash more on the wah and it's panned across speakers and the rest of the string arrangement is clearer when required. Axl sounds better but it's clipping at times.

Why was Tommy removed from the writing credits is my question.

7 minutes ago, WhazUp said:

The mix is literally exactly the same though, the only difference is there isn't massive data compression causing the high end to be all funky and so there is improved fidelity in that regard

Get better headphones sweetheart

9 minutes ago, oneway23 said:

I really don't believe that it is...

Clearer?  Yes

Higher quality?  Yes

A different mix would mean instrumental parts re-inserted which weren't present or audible before, possibly extended pieces or different takes selected, a different balance between where each instrument sits within the frequency spectrum...all tell-tale signs of a re-mix, a la Rush's Vapor Trails or Pearl Jam's Ten from 2009.

This is really just the same thing we had, in shaper focus.

then you answered your own doubts, Congrats

8 minutes ago, WhazUp said:

The mix is literally exactly the same though, the only difference is there isn't massive data compression causing the high end to be all funky and so there is improved fidelity in that regard

Then, It's better right?

the mix is different like I said 

Just now, Arnuld said:

It will be exactly the same. Everyone will get to experience Caram’s terrible mixing in full lossless quality lol

Lets see shall we 

Just now, BillConnor_1982 said:

Unfortunately I do not think tonight is the night. Probably next week. But the mix will be infinitely better.

Just now, BillConnor_1982 said:

I bet it’s exactly the same as the leaked version 

I'll take that bet 

Should be tonight. The General.

Not the crap version leaked.

Anyone who has the higher q versions make me jealous. I would love.

FFS. Justin is a HUGE GNR fan. I'm not a HUGE fan of the Darkness. Falsetto vocals does not get my jizz bubbling. W Rizz or whatever

The shows now are above and beyond the best GNR i have heard *caveat* music wise. For energy it was there from the start. 

4 hours ago, Arnuld said:

The more I listen to The General the more I like it. I just wish it emphasized the Beltrami stuff more. I always imagined it would have this intense intro based on the intro to the live shows all those years ago. 

Agree, but this was a leak. Lets see what comes next. 

The Euro recording studio got pissed at the reaction when it became clear Axl and Slash were not into their mix. So they kicked the song out to the internet. Classy.

On 11/7/2023 at 10:09 PM, hpantazo said:

I meant a professionally recorded and mixed, official release, which would be really nice.

Sorry but it will never happen. If it does I will eat my own dick bro. 

30 minutes ago, hpantazo said:

Any chance we get an official live album from this tour now that its over?

It's called You Tube bro

Was always going to happen. Leak crap mix of song to get back at the Euro studio. Build expectation. Play live shit tons better. It's like GNR of old for those that remember.

Fucking cool! 

Fortus for sure on the outro solo's

The bass line is 100% Stinson wrote but played by Duff.

Slash has added riff's. 

I am not keen on this tbh. I preferred the orchestral version they used as a concert intro. Hopefully in december we hear a better version. This was leaked by the studio in europe to try and kill interest after GnR said the mix was crap.

Ah well guess i need to wait to december

4 minutes ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

I’m surprised that with all the GNR crazies out there that no one has attempted to do this despite the risks.

The mix is not great is it? Finck kicks off a high note from the demo solo then Slash just doesn't. They actually went to a studio and missed that? It's a mess really imo. For a couple of musicians to miss that.. omfg

Axl's old vocals are tremendously enhanced though. No surprise there.

Usual with GnR. Heard the Jukebox recording... I have met the entire band several times. Huge fan but seriously wtf. Just release the song. The crap recording is diluting the enthusiasm from fans. Because it's shit.

Would love to hear this

Would be nice to hear this properly

4 minutes ago, Martin Riggs said:

Where do you live? Should be out at Midnight Eastern Time so 9PM if you’re on the West Coast.

In Dallas these days. Good news hopefully!

1 minute ago, Axeli said:

This is great. 8/10.  

Only 3 more hours i need to wait... sigh.

I hope my indoor show is rescheduled. I want to take my kids to their first show but my youngest is too young for vaccine. 

Oh and people not getting the vaccine are cunts and ruining everything for other people that have the balls to fight this virus. Get your fucking selves vaxed and shut up. Karma is gonna get you if you do not and i'm pretty much ok with that you fucking apes.