betterman

Great band!

On 2/19/2024 at 9:12 AM, Towelie said:

I loved the Weiland album, although I know what you mean about the more metal tracks. But stuff like Get On Down, Till The Dust Is Gone and Aqualung are some of my favourite rock tracks of the 00s.

 

 

That is also my favourites from the record and those are really good. 

I loved STP too, especially Purple and Tiny Music - way better than Velvet revolver  I think

There was a time

Better

Perhaps

Sorry

Soul monsters

Street of dreams

Chinese democracy

This I love

Prostitute

Hard skool

Catcher in the rye

Atlas Shrugged

Madagascar

the General

IRS

Shacklers revenge

Oh my God

Scraped

Rhiad and the bedouins

If the World

Absurd

They have been better for each album!

Scott Weiland didnt really fit on their more metal tracks, but was good on their melodic songs. The Scott Stapp album was too much radio rock I think and now it s a more progressive metal album and Jeff Scott Soto can sing it all - great album

2 hours ago, Towelie said:

Anyone else really loving The General still?

Say what you like about this band, I've genuinely loved all four of the standalone singles they've put from ABSURD to The General.

Yes I do, still think the releases apart from Absurd, is all great. Also Monsters.

Hoping for a new single this year

Let there be anarchy is out now and is one of the most enjoyable releases with Bumblefoot on guitar. 

Jeff Scott Soto is doing a helluva job too on vocals.

This is the third record, previously with Scott Weiland (Velvet revolver, STP) and Scott Stapp (Creed), but this is the best release by some margin. More metal and more progressive though

One song - 60 guitarists

Must be some kind of world record attempt? 

The new album is great, one of the best from last year and Nuno proves he is one of the most talented and gifted guitarist in the world. 

He also is a diverse songwriter and have had some great solo stuff and sideprojects like Dramagods and Population1

4 hours ago, siraddam said:

How did this song do in the charts? I can't find much info online. Did it get in the top 10 anywhere? 

I dont think it did anything on any chart, but also think the band not pushed the release at all because its in fact a deeper cut with lesser general appreciation. I love that we finally got it, but it has no commercial appeal to the general public - Monsters might have or maybe Atlas.

Perhaps with the video being "pushed" did way better and were in some charts, think it peaked in the top 10 of the rock radio charts

Will see Extreme, Tool and mr. Bungle at Tons of Rock festival

Will se Pj Harvey and Pulp

Mr. Big

Bruce Dickinson

Probably Dirty Honey

Here is a interesting article about all the new tracks and they think they all comes from an upcoming album:

https://rockcelebrities.net/guns-n-roses-new-song-strategy-with-slash-risks-and-gains-opinion/?fbclid=IwAR1w5Pbs6PigSC78B5I_mCFgh53vAPvqvntDwVYC5TSmCnEyi4qfPz1dO1o

The writer does not dislike any tracks, but like the more old school cuts better, "Hard Skool" and "Perhaps"

Monsters for next Halloween with a cool video!

I dont really hear it (Spotify) and I have heard it on several tracks from other artists. Maybe im going deaf ate somebody is exaggerating

35 minutes ago, NormisX said:

U deaf or what?  There's a high pitch clicking on almost every bassdrum beat (except a sampled ones in verses)

Are you sure for all streaming services? 

Will not be done. 

And its not so bad that some of you are saying. 

It has been a general problem in music business for years and I am very aware and against the loudness wars, but you could find equally examples from  hundreds of well known bands. Death Magnetic were miles worse as were some of the releases from U2, Bon Jovi etc.

I go for Atlas and Monsters - both tracks might have some potential to hit outside of the hardcore fan-base. 

DO we actually know what the band is doing at the moment? Could they be in a studio now? It sounded like the plan earlier this year...

31 minutes ago, jacdaniel said:

There’s nothing wrong with a great Rock n roll band playing that kind of music. 

But I don’t think Guns fans ever minded variety. The original band managed to play rockers, ballads, acoustic, punk etc and most of it went down well. 
 

The problem these days is just that the songs are shit. 

They get even more shit the more they suffer from the Frankenstein approach that Axl is so fond of. 

Its not shit - its great! 

Thats just your opinion and my opinion, but what is shit is to take your bombastic meanings and speak it as a truth that you of course cant back up with any kind of proof

The general is much better in an album context and i still love to open an album with the General (with orchestral intro about 2 min) followed by Monsters and State of grace and then some more melodic tracks like Perhaps and Atlas Shrugged. 

It s the complete Side A of a Vinyl album release

The General is better and more interesting than half of Appetite! Yes I mean it..

OK.  My thoughts:

It is still a good song - would have fit on Chinese democracy, some of the same moods as Sorry

the mix - Must listen again but felt that the leaked mix had a better punch when the drum and guitar came in before chorus. Maybe cleaner and softer mix/master officially

I think the leak including Monsters was intentional, also based on the wording from Fernando - The general is a monster! He knew that the anticipation was HUGE for this song, but the song we thought were the General was Monsters (soul monster) Based on reactions it was a good thing, because most people dig Monsters and are more skeptical to the General. 

It is a perfect B-side. Great and interesting song, not for everyone and not for the general (!?) public 

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What if Monsters gets promoted as a new GNR song for a new album? The vocals might be new too apart from the bridge

8 minutes ago, GNRRHCP98 said:

Tbh, listening to it more, I wish “The General” was the A-side to “Monsters” instead of being the B-side to “Perhaps.”

Thematically, TG and Monsters gel together… not sure if I dig it as much coupled with “Perhaps” (if that makes any sense.) 

Ultimately, I love all three songs, but it’s the question of the listening experience…

I usually play the general, Monsters and follow with State of grace - a trio of tunes with some darker themes then Perhaps is a feel good breather after that