Gordon Comstock

I remember that quote, but I think Matt was talking about instrumentally complete songs. I also remember someone (not sure if it was Matt, Gilby, or someone else) saying Axl only had lyrics for the verse of one song and the chorus of another song. It would be cool to hear those songs, but probably similar to the instrumental Village leaks - some cool ideas but I'd only listen to (most of) them a couple times.

With vocals? Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the only 'completed' song was the re-worked Ain't Goin' Down that they used in the pinball machine, and I think that was done either late '93 or early '94. Maybe This I Love too, if that counts. But by all accounts there weren't many 'complete' songs with vocals in the mid '90s. I can see why people think Down By The Ocean = Box, but Box was released over a year before Axl mentioned DBTO. We know he listened to Slash and Duff's albums back then, there's no reason to think he wouldn't have been aware of Box and the rest of Izzy's songs... maybe they're similar, but I doubt they're the same song.

Yea, it's another song that was massively over-hyped and I'm sure we've already heard the best version(s) of it. The best thing they could do is unload whatever is left before the next tour. 12" EP, 45 rpm, 2 songs per side. Monsters/SOG and Atlas/Nothing, or something like that. Slap some shitty artwork on the front and take my $40. Then finally move the fuck on from the CD era.

I don't think these were recorded again for the UYI sessions, aside from maybe Just Another Sunday (which I think Duff mentioned once in 1990)? As for CD stuff, there's Cuban Skies, Monstrosity, Light My Fire, Tonto with vocals, and a more finished version of Nothing, if we're going by the CD2 email list. We know Ron and DJ submitted songs but apparently Axl never worked on them...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.I.R.V. He's written a few songs with Brain over the years. This is an album that Brain, Marc and Pete Scaturro released in 1990

No idea why they didn't mention him, but again he's been on all the other singles... I thought Brain and Melissa were just a composing duo these days, they haven't dated in years have they? Didn't she post something earlier this year about her bf passing away? I don't follow either of them online except for what I read on here, I honestly don't know or care what their deal is.

The 'proof' is the quote from Melissa's website, saying Brain was on Absurd and Hardschool. It doesn't really matter because the HS drums are so sterile it may as well be a drum machine, but since Brain is on all the other singles it's fair to assume it's also him on Hardschool.

Of course, but they've had this finished track for probably a couple years and they've decided to release mediocre, repetitive songs instead of an actual 'big gun'. Even if Axl can't sing the bridge live, this is the time to release it - when they're about to take a year off from touring. Like everything else about this band, it's frustrating and makes no sense. Thank fuck we got the leaks lol.

I've had the 'high quality' FLAC version of The General downloaded for several hours and still haven't bothered to listen to it yet - the song is just painfully mediocre. Very repetitive, bad production, vocals soaked in effects, it ticks all the boxes for a 'NITL single' but that's not a good thing. But then there's Monsters, a fucking great song that even poor production doesn't ruin, and they're just sitting on it. This fucking band...

This might be the one I posted a while ago when comparing it to Absurd and HS. It's the 24/48 FLAC.

Always thought he got way too much shit for what was obviously supposed to be a fun moment. He fucked it up, but he was far from the worst part about that performance. There's a million other performances of WTTJ if you want a 'perfect' version anyway. Credit to Ron - the guy was on stage at one of the biggest festivals in the world, it was a 'big moment' for that lineup, he's playing one of their biggest hits, and he still went out of his way to interact with a fan.

Honestly I hope he brings some of those guest singers on tour, it would be a refreshing change from Myles and likely bring some cool changes to Slash's setlist. I could list dozens of singers I'd like to hear on Slash's new album, but just as an example I'll say Ayron Jones and Marc LaBelle since they opened some shows on the last GNR tour. Get Ayron and Dirty Honey to open at least some of the shows, and get them to sing 6-8 songs in Slash's set each night, plus at least 2-3 songs with Todd on vocals. Rotate a few openers/guest singers over the course of the tour, it would be fucking awesome. I'd travel to at least one show for something like that. Unfortunately I think he'll tour that album with SMKC and it will be underwhelming, but hopefully we get a few nice performances on late night shows and stuff, whenever he promotes that album.

I hope he tours that new solo album next year, but I really hope it's not with Myles.

Apparently it's real. 08.14.02 - Summer Sonic Festival, Hall 3, Hong Kong Convention And Exhibition Centre, Hong Kong, China "Before ‘Chinese Democracy,’ Axl explained the title of the album and showed the crowd [on the video screen] the artwork for the new album. The artwork is black and white and features a bicycle, with a wall behind it that someone painted with “Guns N’ Roses!!” "He played two new songs, the first one a slow number that he didn't introduce. Before he played the second one, he told a little anecdote why the new album is called "Chinese Democracy". He said it was because he saw a photo taken in Hong Kong, which he's using as the new album cover. And then he showed it on the video screens, and it was a black and white picture of a bicycle with a basket, and in the wall behind it, someone had grafittied "guns n roses"!!! He said "I didn't paint that myself, so one of you motherfuckers out there must have did it!" The crowd went wild, and he launched into the song."

I'd probably go see them if they announce a Vancouver show, but my expectations would be low. Brian doesn't sound like he could do a traditional tour, but maybe they'll spread a couple dozen shows over the whole year...

I can see what you mean about the cgi figures, but the CD/Shackler's cover is nowhere near as bad as that I agree about the repetitiveness on CD though, I like Madagascar but I was always surprised when people said it was one of the best songs on the album. It's simple and repetitive, but it's got great vocals and guitars which is the bottom line for some people I guess. There's some genuinely great songs on CD like Prostitute and There Was A Time, but there's no Jungle or Rocket Queen or anything like that... That said, Monsters is a legit 'big gun' and I hope they release it sooner than later. The NITL have all been mediocre tbh, but Monsters proved they do actually have some quality songs left in the tank.

Monsters and Leave Me Alone are the same song - Soul Monster. And tbh, re-releasing CD-era songs with Slash and Duff would be ridiculously lame and uninteresting even for a band that barely releases music. I really don't know why some people here want a 'new' version of CD, OMG, Better, etc but I guess it's a 'beggars can't be choosers' thing... Give me live songs, cover songs, or even Duff songs over re-recorded songs from 20+ years ago...

From what we've heard, Hardschool with the long intro would've been the best opening song for CD2. If completed, Zodiac and Oklahoma would also be good choices. Just going off the few tracks we've heard and that CD2 email list, this would've been a decent tracklist. Hardschool Oklahoma/Berlin Perhaps Atlas Shrugged State Of Grace Tonto Going Down Absurd The General Soul Monster OMG, TIL remix, Ten Percenter, etc could be bonus tracks. Obviously we can't really comment on songs like Cuban Skies, Nothing, Monstrocity, Down By The Ocean, Seven, etc but they had at least one more solid album ready to go, even without those tracks.

The last time they had good album/single artwork was the CD/Shackler's 7" (which is just the back of the CD vinyl) and the CD 'box set' with the t-shirt and belt buckle. The Red Hand cover was nice too, if that counts. But all the NITL-era singles have had cheap looking artwork

I also got Lucky Dip tickets for Vancouver

Compare any 2016 video with any 2022 video of Axl singing Back In Black. He can't even do that one song anymore, but some people think he could do a full AC/DC show? Or a tour? Some of the delusions on here are hilarious

Not really, I don't buy the ridiculously priced box sets, magic 8 balls, puzzles and whatever other shit they churn out. I downloaded everything in the AFD and UYI boxes for free, but if they release physical versions of new music I'll continue to buy that.

A blotter paper insert from this album, 'Mud Mouth' by Yelawolf

GNR looking at fans asking about The General digital release and deciding to delay it again:

It's not gonna be a hidden/bonus track, and it's really gonna suck if they just sit on it for a year, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's what happens. It's a shame, because it's by far the best NITL-era single we've heard so far. The best thing they could do is release it on December 24, tweet something like 'this years tour was a fucking monster, thanks everyone' and capitalize on whatever hype still remains.