Gordon Comstock

It's not gonna be a hidden/bonus track, and it's really gonna suck if they just sit on it for a year, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's what happens. It's a shame, because it's by far the best NITL-era single we've heard so far. The best thing they could do is release it on December 24, tweet something like 'this years tour was a fucking monster, thanks everyone' and capitalize on whatever hype still remains.

The leak is the final version, Axl absolutely would release a song with vocals that distorted, and GNR France posted pics of their vinyl days ago.

Mac Saturn deserves to be bigger.

The Struts and Mac Saturn were awesome tonight. They said they have an announcement in a week and will be back soon, pretty sure The Struts will be opening for the Stones in Vancouver....

Ah, thanks!

It was confirmed, but it'll take me a while to find the screenshot. Maybe @Blackstar can post the site that has the Hardschool credits - Freese has a 1% writing credit but I'm sure Brain was listed as a performer.

All the singles have had Brain on them. The problem with Hardschool's drums is they've been edited to the point of sounding like a drum machine.

It's a weird opener but I listened to that playlist earlier and it kinda works, it sets the right tone. A slow burner with a heavy outro, leading into one of their heavier songs. Scraped with the drum intro would probably be the most traditional opener...

I'm not saying they should release their own I Don't Want To Miss A Thing or anything like that, but those 90s Aerosmith albums did have some good songs. But even if they did call Izzy, would he want anything to do with GNR these days? Will they split the loot? Maybe they'll dig out Down By The Ocean or something, but I don't think any real collaboration will happen again.

It's honestly too rough for me to have a real opinion on it. I listened to it again for the first time in a long time because of this thread, and there's a very bare-bones sort of idea there, but I don't really even consider it a 'song' more like a rough sketch or an idea. But yea, it's not something I'll listen to again.

The obvious answer is to call Izzy but that's not gonna happen. I think he's too stubborn to hire writers who aren't 'part of the crew' like Arkeen, Huge, etc. But I agree, hiring songwriters wouldn't be a bad thing.

I'd still be happy with another covers album tbh

He was open to an Axl/DC album, but again he wouldn't have to write anything. We're getting CD era songs because the lyrics and vocals are already complete, it's really that simple. I wouldn't hold out hope for an actual new album, unless people want something that's mostly instrumental or written by Duff... I actually wouldn't mind a short album with 3-4 CD leftovers (that they haven't already released), 1-2 Duff songs, 1-2 covers, maybe 1 actual new song, and a long instrumental closing song (like a 10-minute piano driven jam with Slash and Fortus trading solos the whole time).

It's such a rough, early idea that I'm honestly surprised people listen to it regularly. It seems like it's just Axl and Billy Howerdel fucking around in the pro tools room while Axl tries out melodies... it's interesting to hear Axl working on such an early version of a song but he's literally mumbling scat vocals in the middle of it, it's not something I'm gonna listen to in a playlist.

Yea, I don't put much stock into his opinions, but they seem to be the theories that gain traction which is why I mentioned him.

Yelawolf, I still have a couple of his songs that haven't leaked but I know they're circulating. Also leaked an Anderson .Paak song a couple years ago.

Atlas/Monsters is what MSL has been claiming for a while now. Idk, both will likely come out, but almost everyone here would've guessed Atlas would be released before The General... who knows when any of this stuff will actually e released. Now that the Slash/Duff version has leaked I would think a Nightrain release or expanded Perhaps EP is our best bet for getting Monsters. It would be ridiculous if they waited another year or two to release it, but this is GNR so... I'm just glad to have it now.

This is true. I've bought, sold, leaked and hoarded some unreleased stuff (rap songs that most people here would have zero interest in) and I once sold an untitled track, only to see it listed as 'Your Man' (lyrics from the chorus) a few months later.

No they didn't. You've confused things, they never mentioned the mix, it was the actual quality of the pressing (probably distorted) which has nothing to do with the mix of the song.

Are people seriously waiting for an Atlas EP with that shitty AI artwork? Of course 'plans must have changed'. It's obviously because the Perhaps vinyl was delayed... yep, that must be it. Otherwise they totally would have released Atlas by now... You know bad vinyl pressings aren't exactly uncommon? Even if it was just one song per side, they still could've fucked it up. They probably thought the pressing would go smoothly, but it didn't. Maybe they jumped the gun before they heard the test pressings... either way, I'll be amazed if the released version isn't the same as what leaked. What horse told us it wasn't the final mix? Why would anyone assume these are demos?

Like on the Atlas EP that's supposed to come out this month? Seriously though, I hope they don't just sit on it for another year or two. I'm guessing it will either be on the Nightrain Exclusive CD/vinyl next year, or they'll release a Perhaps EP with the General, Monsters and 1-2 live songs. Either way it's frustrating though. The General isn't bad, but it's not that much better than the other singles... simple, repetitive, lots of vocal effects, but at least there's some nice guitar. Monsters on the other hand is an actual 'big gun', and it's just sitting on their hard drives ready to go. Maybe Axl knows it'll be a bitch to sing live, but if he doesn't want to attempt it, now's the time to release it.

My ideal CD and CD2 would've looked something like this: CD1: New GNR (2006) Chinese Democracy Better The Blues If The World There Was A Time Rhiad Perhaps Madagascar Hardschool I.R.S. Prostitute CD2: Dark/Heavy GNR (2007) Sorry Shackler's Revenge Scraped (Lies They Tell) Catcher In The Rye State Of Grace Going Down This I Love Absurd The General Soul Monster

Definitely possible, since he re-used UYI ideas on that album (Nightcrawler became Speed Parade).

Yea, it was great seeing them in smaller venues and hanging out with fellow nerds at the Hard Rock, chatting with other die-hards outside an arena at noon for a show that maybe sold 10k tickets, etc... someone on here, I forget his username, brought inflatable dolphins to the Seattle 2011 show, which we waived around during Estranged... Bumblefoot ended up with mine at one point The forums were generally were more fun, more of a community (for better or worse) and it was more of a niche fandom. That said, I still love the album. The demos have almost ruined it, there's better versions of almost every song (the best examples being Catcher and The Blues) but it's still a solid album and definitely one of GNR's top 3. I didn't really get interested in the forums until the first clip of Better leaked in late 2005, signed up for CD/newgnr sometime in 2006, so I wasn't waiting as long as some people. But it was still a great experience listening to the full thing for the first time. I'd heard parts of Sorry, This I Love and Scraped when they posted it on myspace, but tried to hold off for a few days until the album was out. I went to the nearest Best Buy which was about an hour away (and was not the exclusive retailer in Canada ) and listened to the full album on the drive back, it was incredible. Now, I only listen to the album occasionally, maybe once or twice a year (same with their other albums, honestly). But I became invested in it and it came out at a time in my life that I'll always have a soft spot for it. As far as what could've, should've or would've been... it don't really matter. It should've been released earlier, should've been a double album, should've had 2006 Axl doing late night performances and all that, but at the end of the day, for what it is - it's a great record. Fuck it, I think I'll throw my headphones on and listen to the album now...

July 5 I signed up for the fan pre-sale thing... does that mean I'll get a code, or is it a lottery kind of thing like Taylor Swift does? Would I be better off waiting for Lucky Dip tickets?