Gordon Comstock

I'll stick with the spirit of this thread, instead of listing things that are actually within a manger's control. So basically what I'd want from the band: scrap the re-re-re-recorded CD leftovers. If possible, cherry-pick some that go back to the mid 90s (Oklahoma/Berlin if it has vocals?) and set maybe 2-3 songs aside for a final alum. Release the rest as a box set of 1998-2015 mixes. Instead of singles every couple years, release cover EP's. At least 3-4 tracks, and release at least one EP each year they tour. I'm a big CD fan, but fresh recordings of Wichita, The Seeker, Slither and I Wanna Be Your Dog would be better than the Frankensteined songs they've been releasing.

I only listened to it a couple times before the actual song leaked. It's impressive that he made it, but of course I don't listen to it now. Although, there's people here who actually listen to Rock The Rock and Nothing, so I probably shouldn't be surprised people still listen to evader's version...

I have no doubt he claimed it, but that's not a good reason to believe it. Who confirmed it? Fernando certainly isn't above exaggerating his importance, and bullshitting fans on discord, reddit, etc. and if he is responsible for the lithos, he's not above using fan-made artwork. When TB took over in 2011 I thought they might finally manage to get some cool things done - they live streamed a few concerts, started a fan club, re-did the website... but it quickly became clear they're unprofessional and incompetent. They've earned their reputation on here, from insulting and arguing with fans online to botching live releases... Fernando might be a fun guy, the recent accusations would suggest he's not a decent guy, but at this point I don't know why anyone would prefer him to any other manager.

What makes you think Fernando was the reason they started doing lithos?

The thread right below this is the old Eye On You thread from 2019... The Village leaks were 19 discs, mostly songs that were included on CD or instrumentals, and there's been tons of discussions about songs like Atlas, State Of Grace, etc since then. The remixes (assuming you mean This I Love, Blood In The Water, etc and not the acoustic KOHD disc) leaked about a year earlier, in 2018, around the same time as the House Of Blues pro shot, Absurd and OMG with Bumblefoot, and some other stuff.

There's no way I'm gonna remember all the dates/years, I'm definitely forgetting some bands, and only counting the openers that didn't suck... Aerosmith x2 Airbourne Alice Cooper x3 Alice In Chains x5 Amythyst Kiah Ayron Jones Begonia Big Wreck Black Label Society Black Sabbath Buckcherry x3 Buckethead x2 City And Colour Colin James The Darkness Deftones Die Mannequin Dirty Honey Disturbed Duff McKagan's Loaded x2 Elton John Explosions In The Sky Foxy Shazam x2 Gob Godsmack x5 Guns N' Roses x13 Hopsin I Mother Earth In Flames x3 Joan Jett Joe Perry Project Kid Rock Mac Saturn (will see them again opening for The Struts in a couple weeks) Machine Head Maneskin Marilyn Manson Megadeth Monster Truck x3 Motley Crue x5 Mt Joy Nathaniel Rateliff And The Night Sweats x2 (will see them again next year) Ninjaspy x10 Radkey Red Hot Chili Peppers Rival Sons Royal Blood x2 Sebastian Bach x3 Sevendust Shinedown x2 Sixx AM Slipknot Stone Sour Stop Light Observations Treble Charger Trivium x2 Wintersleep x2 Yelawolf x3 Zakk Wylde (Acoustic show)

Records, albums, LP's... I hope we can all agree "vinyl's" is wrong, and cassette's are really the worst format.

When should I expect that badge?

Dude this is great!

It's such a stupid thing, but it annoys me every time. I feel like I'm channelling @RussTCB here, but I've read the word "vinyls" so many times in this thread it's going to make my head explode It's vinyl. Singular and plural. "Vinyls" is what teenage pop fans call those things that hang on their bedrooms walls.

Does it? The remix version of This I Love has some of the most powerful rasp we heard from Axl in the 2000s but it was never released. Maybe we've heard most of what's 'in the vault' but we don't really know. You seem fixated on the idea that he was trying as hard as possible to sound like 1992 Axl and use as much rasp as he could manage. I don't think that was the case.

Maybe. But he's also got a that 'extended intro' version of CD that was uploaded 7 months ago. It's definitely possible that CD's like this were made for Eye On You, and every other song from the CD sessions. At this point it seems like the CD could be real, but the 'leak' is fake. It seems like it was just randomly sent to darknemus, and he shared it. I don't think it was even sent to him by the guy that posted the CD? Someone probably saw the discogs link and quickly threw this 'leak' together as a troll attempt... and it didn't even work

Yea, it sounds fake. But even for GNR standards this would be such a bizarre troll job. This guy has been uploading what seem like legit internal CD's from Universal for over a year, mostly Rammstein, just so he could try to fool people with another version of Eye On You? That's one dedicated troll...

Eye On You vocals definitely made it into the final version of Hard Skool https://voca.ro/1mYjIq9sTI3n

I was gonna write some long reply to this, but fuck it. If you think the clean voice wasn't a conscious stylistic change, and that he couldn't pull off rasp, I really don't know what to tell you. As far as 'why would he change his style from what made him famous' or 'why would he only sing certain lines with rasp', it seems clear to me that he was going for something new and trying to re-invent himself with the clean voice. New band, new sound, new look, new approach... it might not have worked, but that seemed to be the intention. Like I said, I'm not gonna attempt to figure out what his reasoning was for doing it, I don't know if he thought he was fooling anyone into thinking those vocals on UTLH were from 1992, or if he was 'pretending it was 87-93' or whatever, they're probably just what he thought sounded good. He's made plenty of questionable decisions in the studio over his career. Also thanks @Blackstar for posting those quotes, it would've taken me a while to dig them out.

I like The Darkness but I'd put them in the same tier as a band like Buckcherry. They're fun live and they have some good songs, and they're better than some other bands of that era like Airbourne, but they're not an A-list band or anything. I think they when I saw them in 2015 it was a sold out show, but they played the Commodore (1000 capacity). I watch Justin's youtube videos occasionally, a few weeks ago he interviewed one of my favourite singers (Eric Nally), he's entertaining but that's all his commentary should be taken as...

Maneskin released a deluxe edition of their latest album with 5 new songs. The Driver is my favourite, and I saw them play it live a few weeks ago. Trastevere is nice too

Love On The Rocks With No Ice and Black Shuck are good ones from the same album as IBIATCL. Open Fire (from the Last Of Our Kind album) is another one of my favourites.

Of course there's moments on Live Era like Rocket Queen or UTLH where it's the totally clean CD era voice, but the re-recorded vocals on songs like WTTJ and Estranged sound like classic Axl. He could absolutely still nail the rasp. I'm not gonna attempt to figure out his reasoning for making those choices, but it was clearly a stylistic choice. He was pulling off raspy 20-second screams in LALD but that just happened to be the perfect note for him to do it? Do you really think that's more likely than choosing to sing in a cleaner voice? That fact that he wasn't singing like 1992 is the whole fucking point! Can you give me an example of where he attempts it and it doesn't work? Because that did start happening in the NITL era, and of course there's shows like Rio and Bridge School, but I can't think of any 01-02 shows where his voice just fails him. I don't see your logic on this one. He had the biggest break of his career between the UYI and CD tours, and could obviously still pull off rasp in the studio, yet somehow once he hit the stage he couldn't do it? Except for the moments when he did do it, and it sounded good? Almost like he was... choosing when to sing with rasp? As far as the rasp fading, the opposite happened in 2002 and 2011. But again, he was being selective. The show I saw in Seattle in 2011 is a good example, he sounded amazing on WTTJ then weak on YCBM. Street Of Dreams was clean but Better was near 2010 level. Estranged was weak but Civil War was incredibly strong. That was about 2 weeks before the tour ended, and I'm pretty sure you can still find all those videos on youtube if you care to look. He'd known Ron Anderson since the AFD days and worked with coaches throughout his career. His singing style was undoubtedly destructive but he wouldn't have made it past the 80s if he hadn't maintained his voice to some degree. Maybe he didn't have the greatest technique, but it's not like he didn't know what he was doing.

This is fake (made with AI) and that Cut of Jib guy is a reddit troll.

It would make a lot more sense that Better2 was the acoustic version, since it was done in 2006. It could also be Better Gone. But DJ said that piano version was something he put together...

How do people still post shit like this? Listen to the Live Era vocals, If The World, The Blues, IRS... he never lost the rasp in the CD era. He nailed the raspy vocals when he went for them, the problem was that he rarely went for them. The LALD screams never sounded better, he could pull off the rasp effortlessly on songs like The Blues and OTGM... but of course he used the clean voice most of the time. Which is why it's weird that you say he should've seen a vocal coach - he probably did, and was probably told that the 01-02 approach was the key to longevity. That was literally Axl singing with a healthier technique, but it didn't translate well to songs like WTTJ, YCBM, etc so he changed it up in 2006. 2006 was rasp-heavy, and the 2007 shows were weaker but still good. 2010 was UYI-levels at times, and obviously he went cleaner in 2011 - but he could still seemingly flip the switch and nail the rasp. The late 2014 shows sounded as good as the 2016 shows. The only time he really pushed himself too far (at least in the last 25~ years) was the AC/DC tour followed by constant NITL touring, and we all saw the damage that did. And really, you don't have to look beyond the AFD tour to see the damage he was doing. I love the 1991 shows but he sounds just brutal on some of them, plenty of UYI shows were cancelled because he blew his voice out, and he was working with Ron Anderson back then. The way he abused his voice coupled with age meant it was probably only a matter of time until he ended up sounding like he does today... But we wouldn't have got the AC/DC tour if he hadn't maintained his voice at some level for a long time. Unfortunately these days there's just not much left to maintain.

You're Crazy You Ain't The First Patience Wichita Lineman Knockin On Heaven's Door That would be my ideal acoustic set. It would also be cool as a first encore, cut the main set a little short then follow that with maybe SOYL and PC.

Aside from the singles they've released in the NITL era, we can assume these would've been on CD2: Atlas Going Down Tonto Cuban Skies Nothing Monstrocity Thyme OMG There's also titles like State Of Grace, Berlin, Down By The Ocean, Seven, and probably a couple others I'm forgetting...

What recent events? Slash is touring from January through April, and then he'll probably start promoting that 'bluesy' solo album with guest singers. They could get into a studio between now and the end of the year, but I doubt it. If a new album happens somewhere down the line, great... but don't hold your breath. I think the best case scenario for actual new music would be one song with Axl (and maybe Duff) on Slash's next album.