Gordon Comstock

That's great and all, it's nice that they're enjoying themselves, but it comes down to Axl's physical ability to sing these songs and I just can't see that lasting another 10 years. Forget about songs like Reckless Life and TWAT, I don't even think we should expect him to be singing PC, LALD, etc in his 70s. Realistically they'll need to do shorter legs of tours with more days off between shows, and definitely no more back to back shows. I wouldn't be surprised if future tours are much more spread out: tour on the east coast for a few weeks, take a month off, tour on the west coast, take another month off, and so on. They could stretch out a farewell tour for a couple years by doing something like that, which I think is probably what will happen in 2025/26/27...

I thought Slash was focusing on the solo album with guest singers after the SMKC tour...

Yea I remember the mock-up stage design, but I think it was Brain that said he'd play the new songs and Frank would play the old. So even if there was 2 kits on stage I don't think they were ever gonna play songs together. I'll have to look up the quote though, I think it was from around the same time he mentioned the remixes...

Yea, the 'drum battle', it was the most enjoyable part of the show most times I've seen them. GNR planned that in 2009 I think, Brain would play the CD songs and Frank would play the old songs, pretty sure they wouldn't have been playing songs at the same time. It would've been a stupid decision and they were right to abandon the idea, but I guess Axl was just trying to find something for Brain to do besides remixes?

No, the Godsmack one is enjoyable

I've seen Godsmack a few times at festivals, they're a solid live band. They're worth seeing at least once just for the drum solo.

Didn't a couple full songs eventually get posted online? There was a LALD video that I think was from this show, and Welcome To The Bumble... I haven't seen either in ages though. They were technically pro shot but not the kind of videos that are shown on the screens...

They started around 10:00 when I saw them in 2010 and I thought wow, he's early! I saw 4 of the Vegas residency shows between 2012-14 and I don't think they ever hit the stage before midnight. The 2014 shows might've been close to midnight though. The shows were always worth it.

Do you think the whole thing sounds like NITL Axl? I think Monsters was pretty obviously recorded in the early-mid 2000s, probably around the same time as songs like Better and Sorry, but The General seems earlier than that. I'd guess 2001-02, his clean voice is different and not as strong as 1999 or 2006, but it's close to how he sounded at some 2002 shows. It's been coated in effects like OMG (and to an extent, the other NITL singles) but it seems obvious to me that it's an early 2000s take...

Wow, I don't think I could disagree more about this. Since the first time I heard it, I thought it was obvious these vocals are from the early 2000s. Just like the other songs, this is CD-era Axl coated in effects. It immediately reminded me of the weaker 2002 shows. And in the context of this tour, he didn't sound too bad on the live version, but 'just like he did on the leak' is quite a stretch...

I posted this elsewhere, but I think the NITL singles (and maybe Atlas or some other leftovers) will be released on their next album... and that album will be a 2CD / 4LP Greatest Hits or Best Of. Would anyone here be really be surprised if they went the Aerosmith route and released an expanded Greatest Hits to tie in with a farewell tour? Nobody expects Axl to be performing these songs in his 70s, do they? The end is definitely getting closer, I wouldn't be surprised if the next tour (probably 2025) is marketed as a very long farewell tour... do some '40 Years Of GNR' shows in 2027 and shut it down after that. Assuming Axl's voice even lasts until then... That said, I enjoyed the show in Vancouver this year. Songs like Pretty Tied Up, Absurd, Bad Obsession, Wichita Lineman, Down On The Farm, Don't Cry... his natural voice is still powerful and enjoyable. But the raspy highs are gone unless he's screaming at the top of his lungs, which he can't do for a full song anymore. He needs at least a few days between shows now. His voice just isn't gonna last that much longer... it is what it is, unfortunately.

Honestly, one of the most surprising things about this thread is that people still rip songs from youtube and soundcloud

Actual leaks, full songs with Slash and Duff on them. Monsters = Soul Monster. It's definitely the better song...

First time since 2006 Axl has played a song that hadn't been leaked years earlier. Credit where it's due, he's giving 100% on that outro and really taking a chance on an unreleased song. He would've killed The General, Soul Monster, Hardschool, etc at any time between 2001-2010 but it's better late than never... honestly this is more than I expected from this era of the band, it's great so see them do something like this again.

"Ok, so we're gonna try a new song... one I haven't sang since this tour started somewhere this spring. This could be very interesting. If there's ever a better place to fall on your face, I think this fuckin' counts... this is called The General."

When did this become a fact? There was some videos with the chorus backing vocals but I don't think we ever heard Axl sing it during a sound check. The pre-recorded vocals mixed with Duff and Melissa made some people think Axl was there, but it definitely wasn't a fact...

Also the Hollywood Palladium 2019 show according to people on here that were at the show, but there's no recording. It was also on the setlist. Mexico 2020 is just the first recording we have of it.

It wouldn't make much sense, but they were apparently sound checking Hardschool at some of the 2019 shows... so it might still be a while until they play it. I'd like to be wrong though.

Cool that they actually sound checked it. If they play it, what are the chances Axl uses the studio effects on the chorus? He's done it before and it's not uncommon among big artists... and it would probably sound better than straight up mickey...

We're waiting for AtlasIllusions to post his video

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He's obviously going to butcher and barbecue a donkey.

Yea it seems like he first mentioned a solo album well over a decade ago? Then a few years later did some songs with Corabi which seem to have been scrapped... This single is ok, I'm really interested to hear the full album. I ordered the vinyl.

https://shop.mickmarsofficial.com/ The legendary guitarist, whose riffs, solos and overall devastatingly heavy sound powered the L.A. icons through four decades of world-conquering, multi-platinum sonic mayhem is, as he demonstrates on his debut solo effort, still a serious force to be reckoned with. Only now, listeners are reckoning with more Mars than ever before. "When it comes to my playing, there's the MÖTLEY side and the Mars side," the guitarist says. "Either way, I always have a very clear vision of what I want to do." On the aptly titled "The Other Side of Mars", fans get that vision in its full, multifarious glory. To be sure, there are plenty of characteristically riff-tastic, tough-as-nails hard-rock anthems. The album also presents the guitarist heading into new and uncharted territory, tearing through caustic, modern metal, conjuring gothic-tinged soundscapes, and digging into anguished, slow-burning power balladry alongside unspooling bluesy, cinematic instrumental workouts. The music throughout the collection is otherwise studded with slide guitars, violins, violas, keyboards, glitchy freak-outs and all manner of sonic surprises. "There's a lot of ideas that I have that, I don't want to call them 'left,' but they are, you know what I mean?" Mars says. Regarding those stylistic turns, he continues, "My feeling has always been, I might gain some fans, I might lose some fans. But what they're hearing, it's all me." The guitarist enlisted a crack team of musicians to help him along the way. A key contributor to the project was WINGER and former ALICE COOPER keyboardist (and, like Mars, Nashville resident) Paul Taylor, who, in addition to performing on the record and assisting Mars in co-writing many of the tracks, introduced the guitarist to powerhouse vocalist Jacob Bunton. "Jacob came into the studio and it was like, bam!" Mars recalls. "And I just said, 'Yeah, he's the guy.' And most of his vocals were one take." The supporting band was rounded out by KORN drummer Ray Luzier, bassist Chris Collier and singer Brion Gamboa, who contributed lead vocals to two songs. Mars reflects, "those required a little bit more of an angsty, desperation kind of thing. And Brion really came to the table with that." Alongside playing bass on all songs recorded, Collier mixed and mastered the debut solo album. But while Mars surrounded himself with a new cast of players for the sessions, there was one figure who represented a significant link to his storied past: Michael Wagener. The much-lauded German producer and engineer worked behind the boards on MÖTLEY CRÜE's 1981 debut, "Too Fast For Love", and his relationship with Mars stretches even further back. "I had known him for a long time, and I actually brought him to MÖTLEY," Mars says. Working with Wagener this time, the guitarist continues, "he had such an understanding of where I wanted to go with the material. And he never said 'Hey, do this,' or tried to change my mind or anything like that. He was just really adamant about recording what I wanted to record, and making sure we recorded it right." The result is a record unlike anything Mars has offered up in his more than 40-year career. To that end, he says that even as he unleashes "The Other Side Of Mars" on the world, he's already working on a follow-up. He offers, "I'm trying to keep growing," Mars says. "Because if you stop learning new things, if you stop playing new things, if you close your mind, you're done. You have to keep moving and creating. Next!" "The Other Side of Mars" track listing: 01. Loyal To The Lie 02. Broken On The Inside 03. Alone 04. Killing Breed 05. Memories 06. Right Side Of Wrong 07. Ready To Roll 08. Undone 09. Ain't Going Back 10. LA Noir https://blabbermouth.net/news/mick-mars-announces-the-other-side-of-mars-solo-album-shares-loyal-to-the-lie-single

Thanks @FRANSAD for remastering my videos from the Vancouver show