Gordon Comstock

The final version of Hard Skool is fine. Not the worst thing they could've released but far from the best. The drums, vocal effects and overly loud mastering really bring it down compared to the demo. And that stupid bell Monsters is the first leftover song that Slash and Duff really fit into, maybe because it's a weird Axl song that pushes them out of their comfort zone, maybe because we never got attached to a demo version, or maybe a bit of both...

Technically yes, they're 2 songs. Whenever they're officially released, they might be 1 song. But really, who cares? The version I'm listening to most now is the edit someone made where the songs are stitched together using the 2006 intro. The General - short interlude - Monsters. It sounds awesome.

How did that comment about Seven get pinned to Fortus!? I'm 99% sure the "Seven = Circus Maximus and D Tune" thing came from that kid who posted lists all the time. Atlas1997 or something like that? I guess he posted it enough that people just started accepting it, and somehow it became "Fortus mentioned it to a fan..." but I don't think Fortus had anything to do with that.

Well, it was the combination of the Elvis titles and the 'Black Sabbath' comment, I can see how that description could fit that instrumental. Nice to have it cleared up now though... Soul Monster definitely lived up to the hype

It seemed likely, but yea it's nice to have confirmation. Hopefully that means Me & My Elvis became something else later, and wasn't abandoned. I still want to know what Monstrocity is, too...

I hope they don't try to cram both songs onto one side of a 7" record... hopefully now that it's leaked, we'll get Monsters and another song by the end of the year. But the Perhaps single should've just been a 12" 45 all along. Overcharge me $35-40 and take my fucking money. Perhaps, Wichita (live or studio, doesn't matter) or a Duff song on side G, and these two songs on side R. Throw Atlas in there if they're feeling really generous. It's crazy that Axl sat on Monsters, an actual 'big gun', for 20 years... imagine hearing it live in 2006 or 2010. Even though the lyrics are fucked up, I smile every time I hear it, especially the 2nd half. It's so fucking good.

Oklahoma would be an easy one, they can say it dates from the mid-90s and we just heard the nuGNR interpretation of it. Same for basically anything piano driven that we haven't heard (supposedly at least one song from that 2010 after party) and stuff like Nothing. Stuff like Zodiac, Dummy, etc will probably be abandoned unfortunately.

If they're gonna try to recapture the classic sound on future material, then it should be Lies, not AFD. Wichita Lineman has been one of their best live songs for years, stick Axl, Slash, Duff and Richard in a room with some acoustic guitars and you'll probably get some good songs. I'd rather hear them do a covers album of their classic rock influences (Thin Lizzy, Alice Cooper, etc) than attempt a new 10-12 song album of rockers. That said, I hope we eventually get to hear more 'experimental' stuff like TG, Monsters, SOG, etc.

They'll never recapture the AFD sound even it they tried. It would just be SMKC with Axl on vocals... give me experimental stuff like The General and Monsters over the bland riffs from 4 every day of the week. People were talking about the 'as good as November Rain' quote earlier... they're not musically comparable, but Axl kinda pushed Slash outside his comfort zone on these songs and the result was great. Monsters is basically what I was hoping for from 'CD2 big guns', if it's the last CD era song we hear then they closed the chapter with a bang.

Ah yes, the first reunion track from Axl, Slash and Duff... and they still didn't use Frank on drums.

If it's Soul Monster, someone on here (I forget who) years ago figured out it was likely 2004, since that's when they had a studio booked at Christmas time.

The 'as good as November Rain' quote is real, but was second hand. "With 18 songs, the group's next album [...] which will be released in June [...] is a collection of songs, which, in Axl's opinion, are as good as 'November Rain'. Among them 'Madagascar', included in the show on Sunday. The CD will include a tribute to John Lennon [Catcher in the Rye], and another [song] about child abuse." (O Globo, 01/16/01) http://www.gnrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?id=3537

Because the quality of the Bumblefoot leak is pretty shit, and the End Of Days version is still a good song. On an actual album, of course it would be the updated version. You also put Rock The Rock...

I've listened to this playlist a couple times today: The General Monsters Oh My God (1999) Absurd Perhaps (2000) Hardschool (2000) Atlas Shrugged (2001) Going Down (2006) State Of Grace Throw Tonto and Zodiac in there and you've got a great album in 2002, and an album CD nerds still would've loved in 2011.

It definitely could be Soul Monster. At this point I don't care what the working title was, it's fucking great. I'm gonna go smoke a bowl and listen to these songs another couple times.

It could be Soul Monster, but it could also be that the General orchestra was chopped up and added to Monstrocity, because we still have no clue what that is/was. The 'most Black Sabbath moment' description fits Me & My Elvis a lot more than it fits Monsters, but the bridge in Monsters fits the description of the bridge in Soul Monster. All 3 songs were listed separately in the CD2 email. It's all speculation for now. At this point I don't even care, it's a great song that I've had on repeat all day.

This is what I hear: Daddy don't I swear I won't I'll be good from now on And I'm awful sorry Daddy don't The hell I won't I won't be good anymore And you'll all be sorry Can anybody tell me Why this pain it just won't stop Can anybody help me This pain it just won't stop My only regret Is that I never took the time to forget All those unspoken feelings That you'll never spare And those who understand it Have your respect And not your sordid meaning Don't know what to tell you now It's never really what they tell you now Don't know what to tell you now It's not really what they tell you now The 2nd chorus is different though, it seems like 'have to show respect'?

A tour-de-force of any old passion A broken heart that was out of fashion Dynamic duo keep your ..(figure).. crashing My early warning was your satan(i)c laughing I was there for you Its all I could do Oh but its over now Oh but its over now I was there for you Its all I could do Oh but its over now Oh but its over now The monsters...... You stole my soul with the devil's romancing All alone in your bedroom, dancing Thought I could feel somebody worth having But in the end I guess you're good for the damning I was there for you Its all I could do Oh but its over now Oh but its over now SLASH The monsters...... The more I did, what I did, I did for you There's no excuses for the hell I let you put me through I never did, I was a kid, would I kid with you? To make it better there's just nothin' that I wouldn't do I doubt there's anybody left that wants to know the truth The dirty secret that you hid away inside of you Who ever thought I'd be around to shed a light on you Well here's the story baby I got nothin' else ta do I was there for you Its all I had to do Oh but its over now Oh but its over now I was there for you Its all I had to do Oh but its over now Oh but its over now I was there for you Its all I had to do I was there for you Its all I had to do I was there for you

Instrumentally though, that description fits Elvis better than Monsters.

Why do people think it's Soul Monster and not Monstrocity? Is Soul Monster not the song that Axl described as 'our most Black Sabbath moment'? That's a lot closer to Me & My Elvis than Monsters...

What else do we actually know about though? Of the songs in the CD2 email the only instrumental we know for sure we've heard is Tonto, so I guess I could've said that. Nothing probably sounded much different by 2008 and Eye On You was likely abandoned long before then.

No, but the early instrumental demo is likely Me & My Elvis. I only mentioned it because it's one of the few songs we know has vocals.

There's like 1 or 2 lines in The General that are hard to understand, same with Monsters (basically just the deep vocal parts)

Monsters The General Oh My God Absurd Atlas Perhaps Hardschool State Of Grace Going Down Soul Monster That's the album we should've got back in 2010.

Not even close, The General is better than the other singles and Monsters is by far the best we've heard since CD.