Legendador

8 minutes ago, t-p-d-a said:

Just imagine Matt Sorum didn't turned Jeff Becks brain into mashed rice and we would have Locomotive live in Paris. Was this really a thing Locomotive with Jeff Beck?. We would have this track on the Deluxe Edition and already as bootleg / (PPV) TV recording or even on a future Blu Ray.

It's still a huge show with great guest appearance

Have you seen they reharsing it on YouTube, with Jeff?

1 hour ago, GnR Chris said:

Nine Inch Nails’ debut record released in 1989. We really shouldn’t even imply “My World” was an influence. It was the other way around. 

As others have said, people always take “My World” way too seriously. Just like “Absurd” or other songs that aren’t considered A-listers. Not everything is going to be or is supposed to be “November Rain.” 

I've never said "My World" influenced any of those bands, but that the same style of music was used to exhaustion during the new metal, industrial metal era.

If "my world" was a song by any of those bands it would be considered a good song.

1 hour ago, MYWIFEMYLIFE said:

UYI aged magnificently, they're tastefully layered, cleverly diversified album with fantastic performances. Could they get better? Imho, no. To me it's the best album ever and nothing will top them, not even a new GNR album.

Agreed, but see I think the same about AFD, but not the acoustic side of Lies, I think is so nostalgic and sad nowdays.

2 minutes ago, Nice Boy said:

I’ve never thought of it as a song, it’s more like a skit, such as found on hip hop albums of the same era 

But I always though MY WORLD as AXL's predictement to the future, he was highly influenced by Nine Inch Nails, Butthole Suffers, Ministry, and I think this was his way to make something "different" and that with the Nu Metal scene / industrial metal era would become the thing.

"My World" is the wrong song, for the wrong band at the wrong time, but nothing different than what Nine Inch Nails, Korn, Ministry, Limp Bizkit, Orgy, Deftones would do years later.

Being "My World" made and played by one of those bands would it be that bad?

3 hours ago, drlaban said:

Start with the first song. That voice sounds familiar.

You're actually right! But I rememberanother part between Alan Niven and Erin, she is crying and Axl is screaming in the back or something,

Listening to the album, GREAT WHITE was so average... hahah

19 hours ago, MaskingApathy said:

Which Great White song is that?

I know the album was Psycho City, I just don't remember the song.

On 11/16/2022 at 11:56 AM, Stay.Of.Execution said:

I love how he's still able to open his eyes while being fucked in the ass after dahmer put an electric drill in his brain. 

Wasn't it even indicated somewhere that Steven did give BJs for drugs in real life? Forgot where i read that.

"We'd go out and meet chicks- older women- who would take us back to their Beverly Hills homes. They'd give us booze, coke, they'd feed us, really. All we had to do was fuck them. Occasionally a guy would pick me up. In return for a blowjob, I'd get a little dope and maybe 30 or 40 bucks. I lived about 5 or 6 blocks from Santa Monica Blvd, so if I was with Slash, we'd get back to my house first, I had two rooms, a living room, and a bedroom, and I'd always sleep in the living room. In the bedroom, I had this guitar and a little amplifier that I was learning to play, and one day I just showed it to Slash. I knew two chords and two scales and I tried to play along to Kiss Alive- strike all the Ace Frehley positions, man! Well, Slash just fell in love with that guitar. I gave it to him, and within a week he was writing songs. He was just made for the guitar. Made for it. I just wanted to be a rock'n'roll star, the guitar was too complicated for me. I set up all these pillows and coathangers and got my first drumsticks and played along to Kiss and Boston. Music made me feel special. Rock'n'roll is in my heart and in my soul and the lifestyle was a huge part of it. It's like, sex and rock'n'roll, that was the lifestyle I was living, right from then. It was never heavy drugs at that age. The heroin thing didn't come until after we were successful, I was a big pothead, thats what I liked, the three P's man - Pot,Pussy and percussion! We had waaay more fun before we got success than after."

http://www.snakepit.org/steven.html

30 minutes ago, Rovim said:

 

This is one: 

This is two (the real deal):

"We'd go out and meet chicks- older women- who would take us back to their Beverly Hills homes. They'd give us booze, coke, they'd feed us, really. All we had to do was fuck them. Occasionally a guy would pick me up. In return for a blowjob, I'd get a little dope and maybe 30 or 40 bucks. I lived about 5 or 6 blocks from Santa Monica Blvd, so if I was with Slash, we'd get back to my house first, I had two rooms, a living room, and a bedroom, and I'd always sleep in the living room. In the bedroom, I had this guitar and a little amplifier that I was learning to play, and one day I just showed it to Slash. I knew two chords and two scales and I tried to play along to Kiss Alive- strike all the Ace Frehley positions, man! Well, Slash just fell in love with that guitar. I gave it to him, and within a week he was writing songs. He was just made for the guitar. Made for it. I just wanted to be a rock'n'roll star, the guitar was too complicated for me. I set up all these pillows and coathangers and got my first drumsticks and played along to Kiss and Boston. Music made me feel special. Rock'n'roll is in my heart and in my soul and the lifestyle was a huge part of it. It's like, sex and rock'n'roll, that was the lifestyle I was living, right from then. It was never heavy drugs at that age. The heroin thing didn't come until after we were successful, I was a big pothead, thats what I liked, the three P's man - Pot,Pussy and percussion! We had waaay more fun before we got success than after."

http://www.snakepit.org/steven.html

On 11/15/2022 at 3:07 AM, Rovim said:

I think it's likely that Gn'R was much worse. Its been said that every classic Gn'R member did fucked up shit too: Steven with drugs/Erin story, Izzy selling heroin and trafficking women, Axl hiring DJ Ashba, Duff working for the mob, Slash injecting Todd Crew with heroin which if true was a mistake but he still died. All allegedely so to be fair to Niven, we don't know what he said exactly but yeah if he said something shitty it wouldn't surprise me, he comes off as not a very pleasant man.

Axl said the cancer thing about Slash during the time when Slash's mother was dying of cancer and basically called Slash a killler in 2010 or around that time. Slash said in a 2000 interview that him and Axl were never friends, it was just businness or whatever. 

these were not quality people so Slash being surprised about Niven is kinda ridiculous imo without knowing exactly what was said to his ex wife Renne and not an excuse, but maybe Niven was just drunk that night and was even more of an asshole. 

 

You're scratching the surface there with the members of the band: "false" rape charges, underage girls, Izzy pissing in th alley of a plane, Slash overdosing all the time, Axl being violent in Chicago, hustling (stealing money, selling drugs, fights and cops everywhere), unprotected sex (imagine how many kids they actually have without not even knowing, Duff storming someone's house with a shotgun to rescue Steven, which as taken hostage by drug dealers, steven doing a blow job for drugs, Axl beating up Erin (and here is one of the main reasons he hates Allan, because Allan took a aswering machine recording of Erin asking for help and gave it to Great White and they inserted that into a song.

Their abusive and wild relationship was not unknown to friends and those around the band. According to Rolling Stone, the band Great White used a recording of Erin Everly defending herself from punches thrown by Axl Rose on their 1992 Psycho City album.

Nobody wanted to be fighting with Axl, so they elected Niven as their spokesperson and there you have it: someone always complaining in the name of others. But this is just the surface.

1 minute ago, Legendador said:

I don't remember the exact same quote, but I remember he saying in his book he went to visit Alan or something during the 2000's, and while he was there he did something "terrible/horrible to a girl" and that he was so shocked.

Maybe someone could find the quote and post it here, but see, Alan always comes out as envious and bitter.

My bad! The thing was as this:

"As it pertains to Niven, I've always wanted to know what exactly it was that caused Slash to turn his back on his management. In Slash's book, he claims Niven, himself, Slash's wife and Alan's wife were partying one night and Alan got extremely weird as it pertained to Renne. In a very Slash move, he says in one sentence "I don't remember exactly what t was he said..." but then, several sentences later, he says "...it was very weird and I never forgot it..."

Alan said or did something horrible to Renne, Slash's ex-wife.

26 minutes ago, Shacklermyrye said:

Man thats fucked up if true

I don't remember the exact same quote, but I remember he saying in his book he went to visit Alan or something during the 2000's, and while he was there he did something "terrible/horrible to a girl" and that he was so shocked.

Maybe someone could find the quote and post it here, but see, Alan always comes out as envious and bitter.

Alan Niven is pretty bitter towards Axl, and I think his whole opinion about Axl and GNR is tainted because of that. (but also Slash, in his book said that Alan did a horrible thing to a girl - I think - once and that prevented them to be friends again)

GNR was never his main project and he tought they would catapult Great White to the same height of success, but they weren't good enough for success.

The thing that is pretty hauting is the last line of this interview, which seems so accurate: "Guns N' Roses have been creatively impotent since 1991"!

But I'm confused, what's the real role of a manager in a band, or what's the role Niven thought he had within the band, because by the way he says, the bands success is owned to him.

This also makes me think if TEAM BRAZIL was or would be able to do something different? Better? Are they responsible for the reunion, or the lack of new material? The same with Merck. Alan makes it look like he was the boss of the band telling Axl how, what and when to do it or not.

1 minute ago, The Matinator said:

So do the songs on Live Era have the same overdubs or are they the original tracks?

I'm curious to hear Rocket Queen.

1 hour ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

You should look at your posts, they don't appear to look like you're joking. They just look like you're a moron

Great, it says more about you than about me!

1 hour ago, DustNBones1990 said:

I’d love to see a convo between you and @Karice🤯🤣

We already did, and it was better than this!

43 minutes ago, Stay.Of.Execution said:

Nothing you're saying here makes any sense regarding the Ritz video. Nothing 

Wow, man, you're always such a grumpy buzz killer, I'm just making a joke old man.

Take it easy.

49 minutes ago, Stay.Of.Execution said:

Yes, they went through the trouble and made a 2hr collage of the show they already had in full. Doesn't that make sense?

Do you really trust this band? They released SILKWORMS for godsake!

With AXL and CO anything can happen or did you forget about GNR Selects, or that McDaddy song?

Silly you... LOL

Did anyone, that was actually at the Paris screening, can confirm if it is actual live footage or just a huge collage of images over live music?

Does anyone copy?

Out...

2 minutes ago, Gunnerfan_rus said:

They do not promote this because they don't want to steal the focus from the upcoming new album too much!

WHICH NEW ALBUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM???  

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIND? LMAO

The end of the world is not that near...

1 hour ago, UncleJosh said:

The fact that only 15 people showed up might explain why they are not doing more and/or bigger screenings.  If that is accurate.

Let me guess, with zero promotion like this band always does? So I guess those 15 people were French members of this forum?

I love when people in this forum blame other factors than the band itself for its failures.

LACK OF PROMOTION = ZERO INTEREST

Here in São Paulo, Brazil, we have an open air movie theater in a horse race track, if they properly promoted something like this here it would pack for days with lines around the block!

1 minute ago, Rovim said:

Slash has no reason to leave Gn'R again

To a guy that likes to be creative, work, release record after record, it will, eventually become boring only to tour the same songs for 10 years.

I'm not saying he has reasons to leave right now, but there are patterns and signs that they are becoming bored.

17 hours ago, Tom2112 said:

I'm not going looking for the interviews but they are out there in plain English and yes it has been said more than once. That is fact. That wasn't meant in a "Axls writing all the time and there's an immediate release coming" it was just a 'Axls a creative guy and is always messing with new ideas'. 

Again, this was said in a far too far past, actually before Chinese Democracy was released.

The mojo is dead and gone ever since.

6 hours ago, jimisbatman said:

Awesome, Slash is gonna be out too....... Bring on CD2 😂 

Actually, if Slash is out again GNR is over!

15 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

I agree with plenty of this. But when you get into what Axl does when he's out of sight then it's murky water. Most gnr members over the last 15yrs have said that Axl is always writing... We have their word but no actual physical evidence so we're here.

I'm sorry, but nobody never said, over the last 15 years, that Axl was always writing. This forum survives on Axl's lack of effort to do anything different than touring.

That's the fact.

2 hours ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

GNR is a business model. They’re making way too much money and seem to be way too “functional” right now to just stop. They’re making money off of the shows, the what feels like weekly merch, the nightrain bullshit, re-releases, etc. This is not a band that is about releasing new music and moving forward- it’s a business model. A legacy act. GNR are a performing act and less so musicians. The idea of a whole new album just isn’t going to happen.

I’m sure Duff and Slash aren’t in love with it but they’re making bank, playing songs they love and are at peace with Axl. I’m sure the NITL lineup will continue for another 5 or so years until they all decide to retire and move on. In that time, besides maybe a few more singles, that’s all we’re getting. This is not the same hungry and passionate team of musicians we saw in the 80’s and 90’s. 

Totally agree!

And by the way the general fans and media received ABSURD and HARD SKOOL, why bother to be release something that will always be compared to a 1987 classic album and that will not be better than that. Nothing they'll ever release will be as good as AFD or as monumental than UYI. Nobody on the rock genre can be compared or to top that.

I totally understand Axl, why put any effort on something that will be for sure, compared, undermined and criticized to a pulp and worst, which could tarnish the legacy, like Chinese Democracy almost did?

It is a no-win situation, so it makes sense to tour for life, release leftovers and rare boxsets to appease die-hards and November Rain with a 50 piece orchestra for the general fans. Business-wise it is brilliant.

A last bow and business move would be a single concert with the five allumini, with guest spots for Sorum, Gilby, a footage of that, a live CD, some memorabilia, like Led Zeppelin did and that's it!

1 hour ago, Tom2112 said:

Well do you know what he does in his time off from touring? Very possible he spends time in his home studio. Regardless if he releases music or not

That's ABSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSURD!