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I can’t wait to watch this

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100% Getting that and Soul Monster cements it. I’d gladly take more (Zodiac, Oklahoma, and Tonto with vocals would be amazing… would be curious about Seven too), but it’s all gravy. The General and Soul Monster were far and away the most wanted grails left. Getting those in October really helps close a chapter. Plus, we have Atlas, Checkmate, and a lot of the others at least instrumentally that we were after for years and years

Hol. E. Fuck. Can’t believe that rumor was real. Hope to hear the track soon

I’d grab it. It’s a nice momento for a good price. Band sounds pretty good, and we’re all desensitized to Axl now anyways

I have a copy of the original cover but it is an unofficial copy. It has yellow vinyl. Sound is pretty good!

A very late response, but I agree. My most wanted would be the complete first Vegas show in a nice gatefold since I was there, but LA 2017 would make an incredible box set. Maybe someone will press them one day. I don’t know why bootleggers haven’t, those shows are perfectly acceptable vocally and GNR is a popular band. Unrelated to vinyl but I picked up a 6- CD set of both Hollywood Bowl shows since I was at the second one. Even though Axl struggles, the recording quality is excellent.

That’s awesome! I went to a record show a few weeks back that had an OG cover AfD for $300 and a Live Era for $400. Hurt to pass on them but that’s too much for me. I go for bootlegs more, anyways. Im about to pull the trigger on another vintage one called “Fun in the Danger Zone” which I believe is the complete 1987 Hammersmith UK show. I’ll be looking forward to that one.

I know! We were both hanging out with Bumble before the gig! He played the Catcher and TWAT solos on his guitar for us

I am going off of what we tangibly have other than what words Axl has said. All 4 officially released tracks sound like leftovers to me. Again, that does not mean I do not like them. I am very happy to have them and play them often enough. They still don't feel like A- tier material for me. Well, they just aren't. Perhaps is a 1- minute song that repeats almost exactly twice with a short solo in- between. Absurd has Axl's "PUSSY FULL OF MAGGOTS" verse repeat twice with no variation. Hard Skool is a little better, but still has a shit ton of repetition and minimal lyrics. The General is a mess of 3 sections that repeat. The bridge is even the same as the intro with throwaway lyrics! Monsters, I genuinely enjoy, and think is a great GNR track, but even that song suffers from some repetition with copying and pasting. The bridge really saves it, but even with it, none of these leftovers have the twists and turns and little parts and changes that make some GNR songs so unique. I will gladly buy Monsters when it is released on vinyl and any other songs that come out! I'd also be stoked for a compilation LP with all of these songs. It would be a surreal record for me to buy and own. I am not referring these songs as leftovers to be derogatory. I am, in fact, happy to accept them that way! I never thought I would hear a lot of these songs up until 2018 when we got the first leak of Monsters. I respectfully think it is insane to blame the lack of a follow up record on the current lineup. I know you love NuGNR, and that is cool (I have great memories from those days, too and think that 2012 Detroit show was unreal), but Axl had 8 years to put something out from CD to the reunion. He didn't. I am sure there was red tape and shit behind the scenes, but he never performed a new song live, never put out a single... nothing. For whatever reason, there wasn't going to be a CD2, even if it ever did exist. We should all just be happy to get these songs in any capacity. To me, these leftover tracks are not worth not having a reunion. That is nuts to me, dude. Axl, Slash, and Duff are the real band. I will take 2016 any day over a CD2 now knowing these songs aren't all that incredible. How could we not? The fact that we are getting these songs is just gravy at this point. I also disagree that the final versions are worse because of Slash and Duff. I know you love Bucket and Finck (I do, too), but I thought some of the Village versions were messes. Hard Skool's old intro and bridge were baffling to me. I'll take Slash's guitar on the final, any day. Absurd is enhanced with him, too. The song just sucks and that isn't on him. Perhaps works better for me with less going on, and Slash's and Robin's solos are just whatever to me. The General is just power chords except at the end, I have no reason to believe NuGNR guitarists would enhance it. Monsters sounds awesome with Slash imo (the NuGNR version sounded intriguing to me, too). But ultimately, who cares? These songs are ancient history, by now. As I said, they are gravy. I wish Axl would have just dumped them all with Slash and Duff in 2016 so we could all move on, but instead, it has been the slowest death ever for that era. Oh well, I'll take it and at least we know what the majority of these once- mythical songs sound like! Shit, the best songs to me most likely were never even finished! I'd take Slashed- up Zodiac, Oklahoma, and Tonto in a heartbeat.

I'm just using my ears, man

Good summary. I like parts of the song, but as you said, it doesn't go anywhere and that is its biggest problem. The chorus is heavy and pretty rad. Feels like 3 different ideas slapped together and looped (which it is). The bridge is a mess then Slash slaps some shredding on the end to add a tiny bit of variety. The song was better by association when listened right in front of Monsters because you then at least had variety between the tracks. As a single, it is a complete misfire. I like The General as a forum legend and meme, and I got a kick out of seeing the debut of it in- person live, but if I wasn't aware of the infamy over the track, it would be a nothing for me. It certainly does not live up to the hype. It is too bad, because parts of it are cool. The chorus is simple but pretty neat, and it is one of the heaviest metal things the band has put out. Pieces of the orchestra are sinister and neat. If Axl really worked out the best parts of that song and crafted different parts around it, it could have been a really cool song. Same with Absurd. Change the lyrics, add some parts and a real bridge for variety, put in a guitar solo and it is a completely acceptable comeback song. Unfortunately, these leftover tracks are just that- leftovers. They are repetitive and lack a lot of structural variety because they were the ideas that did not make the final cut. It doesn't mean I don't like them or that I am not happy to have them, because I really am, and I welcome more. But that does not change the fact of what these songs truly are. Even Hard Skool could have benefited from a completely different part of the bridge before or after the slide solo with some vocals. Think of the little bridge in YCBM. It isn't long or anything, but it does wonders to the song structure. Not every song needs a verse/chorus/verse/chorus/bridge/chorus structure (and some do); I used to really appreciate all the little changes and twists and turns in GNR songs that make them interesting. My hope in 2016 was that the CD leftovers would have been completely redone. They should have reworked and rerecorded these songs from the ground up with Slash and Duff writing all- new sections around the existing ones. It would have fostered actual song writing and it could have even led to some all- new songs in addition to the reworked leftovers. Imagine them keeping the verse and chorus guitars of Absurd, adding a totally new bridge and some other parts, and Axl contributing all- new lyrics and vocals. Unfortunately, it seems Axl does not want to write and record new vocal sections, so it means they have to work with what they have and just record new guitars over all the old parts.

Since last posting here, I have tracked down, "Appetite for Destruction : 1986 Sound City Session N' More" (official) "Live at Castle Donnington 1988"- Donnington Castle- Donnington, England 1988 (vintage bootleg) "Riffle Totin' Florists"- Perkins Palace- Pasadena, California 1987, and The Marquee- London, UK 1987 (vintage bootleg) "Live at the O2, Vol. 1"- The O2 Arena- London, England 2012 (modern bootleg)

The Studio 60 vinyl album is still easy to find fyi.

Yes, that’s the show. The RSD release is vinyl!

It rocks live, too. I am definitely picking up that live album they are putting out for Record Store Day. It is the Hackney Diamonds release show. Short, kick- ass set and WWW is a highlight

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Honestly, there is not a single song I don't enjoy on this record- especially when they are listened to as a whole!

Just picked up a stellar bootleg of a show with Gillan singing. It rocks, but I prefer my Martin boot

I wonder why Crue didn’t get Dj to replace Mick. John 5 is much better

Motley just sucks live and diluted their brand with their shit- show of a reunion. I don't think I can name a worse reunion. Playback controversies, Vince Neil sounding consistently unlistenable, and then the coup de grace of them dropping Mick Mars. I have long outgrown Motley Crue but I can see why promoters and Motley Crue would be excited about the prospect of a GNR/Motley co- headlining tour. That would be easy for them to market and most casual fans lump both bands in, together. It would be way more lucrative for Motley than for GNR, though. Motley is playing a B- tier casino in the middle of Michigan, this summer. That is NuGNR circa 2013-2014 level territory. They need big acts to play the big venues, whereas GNR don't. I could definitely see GNR having Motley as an opening act, but I doubt Motley Crue would allow their egos to accept that. I could see GNR partnering with another mega- band one day for a co- headlining tour, though. They surely do well in larger markets (the Boston and LA shows I saw in 2023 were pretty packed), but they struggled when I saw them in Detroit in 2021. I don't think they would go for Motley Crue, but a double- bill with the Foo Fighters, Metallicas, AC/DCs, Queen + Adam Lamberts, Aerosmiths of the world for one last stadium jaunt could be possible.

Agreed. It hasn't been the same since Church of Rock N Roll imo. Gonzo and then disbanding was a big mistake imo, as they had some amazing momentum in 2012. I saw them 3 times that year and they were a force to be reckoned with. Got to hang out with some of them at the gigs, too. They were really cool dudes at those shows

I saw Foxy Shazam open for Slash in 2012

It would be an okay business decision, as it would help fill up stadiums but Motley Crue is not a band I care to see, again. Pass

It’s especially crazy considering we have the original, complete and unaltered versions officially released and they’re fucking awesome