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That's awesome. I really like that.

Axl is gonna Axl. I'd love to hear this track. Great song, epic line up. I suspect it might be a short while at least, not only because of Axl, but we've just had Mark Knofler release a single with a tonne of guest artists (inc Slash) for TCT - maybe it'll be in the next month or two? It's been laid down since 2017, so that's kinda in line with Axl's usual timeframe.

1. Rocket Queen 2. Ain't it Fun 3. There Was a Time 4. Coma I picked something from each major era/album, but avoided the likes of Civil War, YCBM, Patience, Estranged & (maybe) Nightrain because I'd be surprised if even casual fans hadn't heard these. Otherwise, it would be exactly those. 1. Nightrain 2. You Could be Mine 3. Civil War 4. Patience

Probably explains why they couldn't pay Kat...

Couldn't agree more. I haven't heard an Atmos mix that improves any song. They're kind of novelties to listen to, but I haven't found any that I prefer over OG or other alternative mixes.

I have a SD2, a TS9 and a TS808 - such a hard choice to pick the 'best'! Oh man - this is going to be killer!! The Pusher!! Crossroads!! Cannot wait for this. Would love to hear Slash play Cocaine. Not sure who would do vocals.

Yeah, I'm sure I saw an Ibanez TS in there. Yep, we'll have a Slash Gibson 335 next, and likely an Epiphone version too. Personally, in terms of semi-acoustics, I love the Epi Sheraton's with the mini humbuckers.

And then there was Madison...

It's attitudes like that which prevented these women from coming forward at the time of the incident.

Shelia was likely told not to use the word rape, or the publishers edited it, unless she brought a legal case because it would otherwise be potentially libellous.

What a piece of shit. Who talks like that on an open forum. Gets all pissy because she didn't mention him by name. Kat referenced 'they' as in GNR - of which he's the manager. Surely that's good enough?! Speaks volumes of (alleged) behaviour if he's this petty...in public.

Gotcha. Thanks for that.

It hasn't even got to court yet. If it gets there, it'll likely mean there is substantial evidence. I'd suggest that people won't be talking about it too openly as it could affect the trial (should there be one).

Very, very true - GNR only has a handful of albums and really only one or two that most casual fans are aware of.

He lived very comfortably on royalties and then reunited with Slash when he knew he was on fumes - I think his luckiest period was managing to (mostly) sell out arenas with DJ in tow and Vegas. Given the demand for nostalgia acts (and sadly this is what GNR is now) and grown ups with lots of spare cash wanting to relive their youth - it's huge business. Definitely lucky, but he timed it right for the gravy train - I think for us fans, we're just a little disappointed that it came late for Axl's voice and it was at the sacrifice of CD II and maybe even III. There are perhaps a handful of bands could have done the same without releases, but I'm not sure any would have the same pull as Axl & Slash. Kiss being the obvious example.

At least you recognise that. I dare say there are many more that do not and yet still take the same stance.

Age is irrelevant. If she initially consented and withdrew that consent, and Axl continued - it's rape. There's no real grey area there. Withdrawn consent means you stop. Immediately. That's even more so the case with 'kinky' sex, otherwise it may end up becoming a violent attack very quickly - consider this: Axl became too aggressive & she needed it to stop - why does her age mean anything at that point? Either way, Axl said it never happened, which if proved incorrect, and there is evidence to put them together in that room, Axl is fucked. It's a bold claim to say it never happened unless that's the absolute truth. I hope Axl is innocent, and proven as such purely because I'm a fan, but when someone comes forward with a potentially credible case, you have to listen to both sides and not jump to conclusion based on irrelevant facts.

I can see how that phone call would go: "Hey Izzy, remember how we stiffed you on the tour deal, and you told us to go fuck ourselves? Well, it's time for you to repay the favour. How about you help write some songs that GNR Ltd will own, you might get some royalties but ya know, songs don't really sell these days so you won't make much. Don't worry about coming out on tour - we have a pretty great guitarist who actually kinda looks like you. Pretty sweet deal, right? Everyone wins."

Thing is, a certain someone gets touchy with artists (allegedly). Best let a computer do it.

Ask the general public what their opinion is of Axl and you'll get a lot of 4 letter words. People remember Axl of the 90s and haven't really changed their minds. We see he has become more professional in recent years, but we have no understanding of how combustible he is behind the scenes.

99.99% of people won't even hear the clipping. And speaking to those who have heard it, most people won't even like the song! I like The General (it's no Monsters though). I can just about hear the clipping now it's pointed out (annoyingly). As for reputation - it won't affect a band with the stature of GNR. It's a dodged digital track. It's a big deal to us, but nothing in the grand scale of things.

I think this is the nail on the head. Slash & Duff most likely did their bits and that was their input done. Sent over to Axl et al to mix. It's just the CD booklet all over again. Half arsed and ironically rushed at the end, quite likely due to procrastination rather than perfection.

Other than Hard Skool being a B Side, I completely agree. Hard Skool definitely had single and air time potential. Hard Skool, Perhaps & Monsters would be been a great selection of singles for an 8 track EP of CD leftovers. I haven't listened to Atlas enough to make an opinion on that. As much as I like the Reunion versions, I can't help but wish for final versions with Bucket, Brain & Robin.

Yeah, I see your point and agree - kids have always worn t-shirts of bands they've probably never even listened to. But I'm not sure those same kids would go to the GNR website. They're more likely to pick it up in a commercial chain store.

Which is pretty much the majority of the GNR target audience...