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On 2/2/2022 at 10:30 AM, estrangedtwat said:

I was a huge band of both bands in the early 90s, and Eddie did indeed trash GNR publicly, specifically making fun of Axl's teleprompters saying if you can't remember the words to your own songs you shouldn't be singing them.  They were an easy target around the time of those MTV awards when all the new "cool kids" showed up in flannel and Axl was there dressed like Liberace and had an orchestra playing with him.

 

And yes, I absolutely stand by his hypocrisy regarding his divorce.  Not because of the fact that he got divorced.  People do it all the time.  But the fact that he went and did every stereotypical cliche thing that a "rock star" does after publicly denying he'd ever do that:  he replaced his longtime wife with a younger woman to have kids with, and after making fun of the vapidness of beautiful women he married a fashion model.  He's not the first.  Thurston Moore left Kim Gordon for a younger woman.  Wayne Coyne of Flaming Lips dumped his wife of like 15 years for a much younger woman and had kids.  These guys were always saying how "different" they were and in Eddie's case has always been an outspoken "male feminist."  But at the end of the day, he's not that different from the guys in Crue, is he?  Just wanted a little piece of that Girls Girls Girls.

I think you make a good point, whether or not you were trying to, but Axl did what the fuck he wanted to do. He was like Freddie Mercury. Do what you want and be yourself. He certainly was doing that!  The Seatlle fuckos all dressed the same, oh look at me in my flannel shirt and boots, I look so cool like all the other grunge sheep. Fuck em"

Can you tell that I'm drunk 

22 hours ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

Riad is one of his favourites seriously? The splash of Slash's turds dropping into a toilet create a better listen than that piece of shit

Turds dropping Splashes turned up 3.5 dB is my favourite Remix of that. The ending transitions into Blood in the Water. Dammn Haemorrhoids...

I think it has already been mentioned, but the antique synthesizer on Paradise City and the whislte is pure Axl genius. 

On 1/10/2022 at 12:34 PM, RussTCB said:

That's exactly how I feel. How on Earth can you love & support a band that opens with ISE literally every night of the tour and have the nerve to clutch your pearls at the term "bitches" in the UYI booklet?? 

And no, Duffs ultra woke attempt at explaining the ISE lyrics away (read: when he flat out lied) doesn't count as justification for being OK with them opening with ISE but then still claiming to be offended by use of the word "bitches". 

I’ve literally been backstage when Axl’s henchmen have taken girls one third of his age to his dressing room to meet the ‘boss’. These boys enjoyed their ‘toys’ and can’t pretend that they are saints. I for one don’t care, I wish I could do the same, so I’m cool with it but at least I’m up front and honest about it. Unlike woke Duff. 

I don't ever go out of my way to listen to them, since the day or two after they were officially released. I'm just not that interested or motivated to listen to these old songs. 

I did hear Hardskool again on the radio while driving a few days ago, its probably the 3rd or 4th time I have heard it on the radio while driving, and again it was a nice suprise to just spontaneously hear it. 

If Axl actually released a new album of new songs I would be obsessed with playing it all the time, and loving every minute of digesting more of his art, but hearing old songs is stale as fuck.

4 hours ago, DurhamGirl said:

The thing that shocked me was Doug commenting that Axl did not enjoy one minute of the Illusions tour....if so then why did he do it I wonder.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, women, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Same reason I would do it. 

Merry Christmas everyone! It has now come and gone here in Australia, but for those that haven't had it yet, it won't be long. Soon is the word...

14 hours ago, CubanSkies Dummy said:

Like I've wrote in 2007 when I've post the "Sorry" lyrics: believe me when you see it.

I can hear some bits of info.

Tidbits:

- HardSkool more likely intended to close the new album.

- Slash is giving an interview for Rolling Stone Maganize (FR ed).

- 2022 tour gets a new name.

You read it here first!

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"Midnight falling between my own pour soul."

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Here is a short review of each song:

ROLL ON 2 U: Nice rnr track, think of "Outta Get Me" but without all that energy and magic. Nice.

FEELIN' IT: Seems like a good rnr single. Finally, a riff. Superb. Gem of the album. Powerful sound (finally!!). Possible brand new single; first brand new unheared song since 2008.

CASINO NIGHT ZONE: First piano driven song of the album. Rapping Axl returns for a few seconds. Maybe, the first GNR song ever to have a "techno" echo. Very short song but my personal fav.

ELVIS: Think of a "Sorry" lil brother. Nice, angry vocals. Darkest song of the album and that cellos are LOUD for a little moment. 7/10 if you ask me.

OMG: Heaviest song of the album. Almost like screamo Rose on steroids. Buckethead guitar in the background???? Powerful.

ATLAS: Filler. Not as happy as "Casino Night Zone" and not even in the league of "Catcher In The Rye". Interesting intro. 5/10 if you ask me. The Sean Beaven mix was much better.

7: Yes. Yes. YES. This is the quality I was waiting for! EPIC SONG. 10/10. Think of a mix between "Circus Maximus", "D Tune", "Curly Shuffle" and "Poison Heart". I MEAN, FREAKIN' REALLY. AXL, WHAT WAS YOU THINKING WHILE YOU DISCARDED THIS SONG FOR "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"?! WHY YOU PUT "SCRAPED" INSTEAD?! Oh, you need serious help, Axl Rose. Tears on my eyes. Really.

ABSURD!: Second filler. Released as a single. I prefer the 1999 vers.

EL HERMANO: If "Absurd!" is the "Scraped" of this album... This is the "Riad N' The Bedouins". Really nice guitars; little vocals. Maybe, it works very fine as an opener (And put "Roll On 2 U" as track 9; switch places). 3:39 of heavy rock. Hm. After all... It's a new song. Who cares?!

GENERAL: Another "Sorry" little brother. I really see "Elvis" / "Sorry" / "General" like the same batch of melodies, I don't know. Interesting track. Rose vocals not powerful as in "Absurd!" or "Feelin' It". Where is that "grinding riff"?! Sebastiannnnn. Last heavy/dark song of the album.

PERHAPS: Third piano driven song of the album after "Casino Night Zone" and "7". A certainly great upgrade over the 1999 vers. It's dark but with a bit of hope. I like it, I love it!

HERE TODAY: Duff vocals. If "Perhaps" is night; "Here Today" is the dawn or the sunrise. Lovely track; maybe even epic song. Think of a mix between "Misunderstood" and "Crazy" by Aerosmith. I don't know. Just freakin' magic. It's a song of love, sure but it hurts... Still hurts. Beach, sunrise/sunset. I don't know how to describe it. I really love it. 10/10.

RIDERS OUT OF SIGHT: EPIC. YES. YES, LAST EVER ROSE MASTERPIECE OF ALL TIMES. Start like a dark song, like an uninspired "Patience", slow, but later on... I REALLY LOVE YOU AXL. MAN. YOU'RE THE GREATEST FRONTMAN OF ALL TIME. AFTER ALL THIS TIME, THE THING IS THAT WE LOVE YOU, MAN. "NOVEMBER RAIN" / "ESTRANGED" / "RIDERS OUT OF SIGHT". LOVE YOU, MAN. LOVE YOU AS A STARFUCKER. Tears in my eyes again. We are so fortunate to live in this world. Really.

Axl, how beautiful life is while you're in the world.

HARD SKOOL: The great finale. 90's rock and roll style, let's go!! End of the journey. It was a nice ride, right? Like "Roll On 2 U", this is a great direct rock and roll. And life is this.

 

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I can't wait to get my hands on this new album!

Yesss! Loving this album already!

HERE TODAY… /  GONE TO HELL… / SWEET JARMO O’MINE  Trilogy of songs starts now

2 hours ago, JustRnR said:

Maybe not the most impressive vocal performance but my favorite is a video that I can't seem to find on YouTube anymore. It is a video of  Axl and West playing The Garden at some bar.

Yeah that was incredible. Shame that there’s people in the bar talking loudly and not appreciating the musical genius in the corner of the room. It was  amazing young Axl in all his beautiful glory.

On 12/5/2021 at 8:52 PM, Sledge said:

First we release the single online, THEN we wait months for the lyric video, THEN we wait a few more months for the physical release, THEN I sit on the toilet....

How’d you go on the toilet mate? I hope you didn’t have to wait as long as Chinese Democracy for it to come out.

On 12/12/2021 at 12:57 AM, Twinaleblood said:

You're welcome, you're going to enjoy it a lot! 

Thanks for posting it mate, it was a great watch. I guess it’s not surprising that Axl sent out music with no vocals on it to him,  he would be worried that shit would leak…

Gary seems like a lovely guy.

1 hour ago, prairieboy said:

In an attempt to say positive things…. Ummm… I still really like the song… and the Garden of Eden is no longer the GNR video I like the least…?

#positivity?

 

What! You should be banned from this forum for all eternity. The Garden of Eden video is awesome, one of my favourite GnR vids, and a great song too !

19 hours ago, megaguns1982 said:

No new album and it’s crazy to think that more time has elapsed than had between the release of AFD and UYI. This reunion has almost ran as long as GnRS original big touring years of roughly 87 to 93. At this point it’s really obvious it was all a cash grab. My main question is: how much money is enough already? You can’t take it to the grave, perhaps they all want to set up their families for the long run?  I just can’t get my head around it.

I think you’re right mate. It’s all about the money and enjoying their last couple of decades on this earth with immense wealth, and setting up the families for generations to come. I guess that is genuinely what a lot of people would want though, so you can’t blame them. I think they enjoy touring so why not? Slash has pretty much said he can’t sit still and has to tour.

Axl probably has no intention to work hard making an album anymore, his best has come out 30 years ago and if you listen to the last two officially released songs, he knows his best is well and truly behind him. His voice is in steady decay, so it’s a matter of touring until people stop showing up. He can’t really come out and say that though, like,  Hi all I’ve retired from making music!,  as that would be a downer. 

13 hours ago, EvanG said:

I don't know if shitting on stage and then eating it and throwing it at the audience is technically breaking the law, but that guy sure was a piece of shit.

They say you are what you eat…

22 hours ago, Rovim said:

was she asserting dominance or something? this is not showmanship or rock n' roll imo. It's just attention whoring, not very original. Not that there's anything wrong with golden showers if your bladder is full and the mood strikes you but this was very one sided. The guy didn't even get the chance to reciprocate. Selfish.

Give her a break, she was just live streaming. Isn’t that what we all beg for here?

I heard Hardskool played on the local rock radio station here in Brisbane, Australia, on the day it was released. It was great hearing it on the radio. Sounded amazing. Songs sound different depending on what you hear them on, but it really did sound fantastic on high volume in the car. I can’t say that I have heard it since unfortunately. But it’s a popular radio station so it was good exposure to hundreds of thousands of people at least 👍

17 hours ago, DTJ80 said:

This is my hope. A suitably priced CD boxset would be awesome…..doesn’t need to be grandiose or anything…just a simple box with vinyls and CDs! I know some folk think it would be a waste of money/not enough interest but if priced reasonably and manufactured in realistic numbers then absolutely there is a market. Take my money now!

Seriously not going to happen while Axl is alive. When he is dead, then certainly the floodgates may open with his estate capitalising in every way imaginable. There will be Mills & Boon books with Axl as the main character, GnR drones, secret recordings of Axl singing in the shower etc… 

Bought mine in Australia, says “Made in the EU” in the tiny writing on the back. I wouldn’t say that it sounds great, but it did get covered in a lot of beer early on when playing it for mate’s when we were drinking 😁

In all honesty, I’d rather see this thread closed and a new thread started if they ever do release a new album. 
 

Otherwise it’s a constant trawl through the pages of dribble to see if anything has actually happened lately.

Others thoughts?

42 minutes ago, EvanG said:

I have never heard anyone claim that GnR is the biggest in the world right now either.

Me neither, it is just a bit of a throw away line probably.  

In reality there are certainly some regional differences. Here in Australia, they really are one of the most popular, biggest crowd-pulling acts on the planet still. Which is impressive. But again, thats a regional difference thing. Rock music is popular here in Australia, rap music much less so. So you could say that Guns n Roses is one of the biggest touring bands in the world, for us Aussies anyway. 

If you compare them to their contemporarys, even though they rose well above them all, but GnR nowadays pull much bigger crowds than say Def Leppard, Motley Crue and the like who would be lucky to play in front of 5000 these days, compared to 50 000 like GnR do. So they have remarkably stood the test of time, despite how very little they have done creatively for decades. 

11 hours ago, thelostrose said:

Why would it be distracting, if GnR and Slash would release a new records at nearly the same time?

1. A lot of people don't give a shit about Slash's solo stuff. The record won't be serious competition.

2. Both records could benefit from being released close to each other. It would even be a kind of promotion for the Guns record, since Axl usually doesn't do promotion.

1. It would be distracting because you would have a normally functioning band like SMKC releasing singles, releasing music videos, playing live on talk shows, doing interviews on various media platforms (Electronic and Print), while the interviewer would be saying "So how was it back in the studio with Axl Rose after many decades". "Did you and Axl get along well?" "Would Axl turn up to the studio on time to record?" "Did you have many disagreements with the type of input you were able to have on the songs that were already actually written ten years ago" "What the fuck is up with that song Absurd? Did you have to see a Psychologist to get over actually being a part of that abomination?"

All the while Slash is going " It was great working with Myles again, and"  Interviewer "What about Steven? is he coming back in to the band?"

I think you answered your own question directed at me with your point 1. 

And I reinforced the ridiculousness of it all by expanding on your point 2.

8 hours ago, GnR Chris said:

I do think a full album is coming. I don't think it's coming soon. Meegan posted that the first single from Slash/Conspirators' new record is dropping very soon. I don't see how it logically even makes sense to release a Conspirators single then do a GNR album drop in, say, November.

Unfortunately, though it's been a fun year, I think GNR will stay dark till before the next leg of a tour starts. We will probably see a record in that timeframe.

I think you are pretty much right with your view on things. Slash and Axl obviously talk. It would be distracting in general for both parties to be releasing material around the same time as each other, and not optimising sales, which they would care about. So I think the two new GnR songs are an appetiser and just to keep the fans a bit happier, on the hook, until late next year. 

Otherwise, as usual, we won’t know anything concrete until it’s confirmed by Richard Fortus.