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henfjel

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  1. How long is it until the concert is supposed to start? (how long as in hours and minutes, timezone-difference is huge between Norway and Argentina)

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    Thank you! In other words, it was supposed to start 13 minutes ago?

    No. It shall start in about 5 hours, I guess :) 5 or 6 :)

    Haha, now I'm up to speed.. I thought that the time on the printscreen was the start-time. Because it is, as you probably noticed 22.00 here now :lol:

  2. Originally gave this its own thread, but given the abundance of HoF discussion twas decided it might be better to try and import it in here.

    The ceremony's been something I've been thoroughly uninterested in since its announcement and I've pretty much kept quiet on my general feelings about it, which were that it was always going to be an industry back-slapping festival and neither really about Rock n Roll, nor really about giving anything back to the fans given the ludicrous exclusivity of the event itself and the limited range of its immediate broadcast.

    But the more I think about it, the more I'm quite disturbed about the fact that with Guns N Roses, the induction only encompassed certain members of the band based on some abstract criteria I'm still having trouble deciphering really... The members inducted; Axl, Izzy, Slash, Duff, Steven, Dizzy and Matt... how were they selected to be the only members of the rather lengthy list of people who've come and gone through Guns N Roses both before and after some of them?

    Before I get a ludicrous number of posts saying "How could you expect them to induct Pitman?" etc. talking about how it's the most ridiculous thing to expect in the world... They inducted Rob Trujillo with Metallica without batting an eyelid. At the time, he'd been in Metallica for a significantly shorter period than Tommy, Chris and even Richard have been in Guns and they'd only put out two records during his tenure. The complete industry dismissal of post-1994 GNR and these guys who've given up a lot of time and effort touring the world seems like a much more brutal snub than anything which Axl did...

    I can understand why acknowledging any of post '94 GNR would present the HOF with an enormous logistical problem, where then would they stop? But the degree of hypocrisy involved in the selection process means that the ceremony itself is not something I can view as honourable or admirable in any way.

    I guess what I'm trying to ask ultimately is, is there anyone here who is absolutely accepting of Rob Trujillo's induction with Metallica who can also honestly justify Tommy, Chris and Richard not being inducted with GNR. If so, why?

    I mean beyond the abstract field of personal opinion, i.e. "Metallica is still Metallica." That might work for you on a personal level, but overall we're looking at a similar scenario, a collective of musicians releasing music under a particular name where personnel has changed... this happens all the time in bands. Accepting it in this instance should be no more traumatic.

    hi! saw your thread and was about to post this..

    Though I see what you mean here, I do see why none of the post 94 Guns N' Roses members where inducted. As far as my knowledge goes, bands are inducted 25 years after the debut album of said band. I read somewhere that what they did with guns was to induct those who played in the band while they rised to fame, and who was a part of the band turning famous since there has been so many members. Therefore, no post '94 guys since none of them where there to help bring Guns N' Roses to worldwide fame.

    About Metallica: Both Cliff Burton and Jason Newsted were also inducted. I guess they inducted Rob since he had played there for 8 years and participated on several albums by then :)

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