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if you take them as one song together, the General and Monsters do stand out as the exception. First epic length piece since UYI. Coma’s deranged younger brother.

I don't think The General, Perhaps, State of Grace, Eye On You, or Absurd stick to that formula, though in most cases it's something being left out rather than something extra being added. Eye On You doesn't have verses at all. The General doesn't either, it has three different choruses or refrains that all get reused, plus a bridge. Perhaps and State of Grace only use their chorus twice and spend most of their time on verses. Absurd had what passed for its chorus chopped out, one of the verses copy pasted to be the new chorus, and the other verse just left in there to fill space.

Reminds me of Sweet Child O’ Mine where we ended up with “where do we go now?” because they couldn’t think of anything else.

I tried that listen in reverse order thing some people are saying and it just doesn’t work for me. Lyrically, Monsters provides closure to the General. I believe putting it second was the right choice.

In an ideal world, Tommy could show up once or twice on a tour as a surprise guest and Going Down would get played for his five minutes on stage.

I hear it as “oh but it’s all burned down” followed by “oh but it’s over now.”

Now that I’ve heard it, I wonder why this song ended up being called The General.

Damn it I already used up all my likes for the day

Streamed it while I was gaming with a friend yesterday. Her first reaction was “holy fuck, 9 minutes?!” but she actually enjoyed it. Said it reminded her of Alice In Chains. AbsuRd on the other hand… Just a request No more songs like that pls lol The rave thing Did he just say pussy full of maggots

Perhaps these originated as separate pieces back when they were demos, but Axl felt enough of a connection between them to decide they belonged together as one. If that were the case, it must have been before the orchestral backing was recorded, since they’re both drawing on one common piece. On a side note, when I was a kid I always thought Queen’s We Will Rock You and We Are the Champions were two halves of the same song, since they were invariably played back to back on the radio, and always in the same order.

The orchestra track that was played as a concert intro. It’s in the background throughout the song.

I agree. We should probably stop putting so much faith in these random info bytes we’ve gotten from band members and so on over the years. They’ve got dozens of these unfinished tracks with constantly changing working titles floating around, and they were all built up out of separately recorded bits and pieces. I don’t even think Axl himself could keep all of it straight.

So what, if anything, from the Me & My Elvis demo actually made it into Monsters? Maybe I just haven’t listened closely enough, but they sound nothing like each other.

Easily the best playing Slash has done on any of the NuGuns material.

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Probably got it mixed up with another song entirely

It’s a great schizo anthem. Whoever linked it to Estranged was obviously full of shit. It’s more of a sequel to Coma.

It’ll come just as soon as everyone has gotten their Dr Pepper

Here’s a song you can’t listen to while you’re stuck in traffic, at the gym, on your headphones at work, or anywhere else you spend most of your day. Merry Christmas.

You’re halfway there. The elite scam is to hype it as vinyl only, sell all those records, and then give it a digital release a month or two later once the return date has expired.

Has there ever in the history of the band been a song they put out on vinyl but purposefully withheld from their digital catalog? No. Is there any particular reason for them to do that now? No. To say it might never happen is just as much of an assumption as to say it will. The difference is that one assumption is backed by precedent, and the other is not.

Why wouldn’t it? Every GNR song that’s been officially released has been gotten a digital release, and every song they’ve released since the reunion has been played live. I find it bizarre how far this assumption has spread.

I don’t know why I hadn’t thought of this sooner: what about taking the 2002 Rock in Rio show and giving it an AI remaster so we can finally hear what Buckethead and Robin sound like with some good vocals?

Forgot to mention, I brought a friend along who had never been to a big rock concert before or really listened to much GNR besides the hits on the radio. He ended up having a blast and being really impressed by the show, particularly with just how long they were able to play for (somewhere between two and a half and three hours, I think). Other funny feedback: “I’m trying to keep count of which is happening more, Axl changing shirts or Slash changing guitars.” Other notes: the acoustics and the mixing were excellent, one of the clearest sounding shows that I’ve been to. None of the solos sounded phoned in at all. Estranged was the highlight of the show for me. Really enjoyed that performance. Reckless Life was the worst, sounded like a mess and you could barely make out one word of it. The setlist has also noticeably shifted to include a larger share of songs in his lower register. Between It’s So Easy, Brownstone, DOTF, Chinese, Bad Obsession, Pretty Tied Up, DTJ, Absurd, Wichita Lineman, Don’t Cry, and Patience, almost half the show is using his lower vocals.