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Do you really have to be a feminist to think Fernando should go for his behaviour (if it's true, of course)? I would think being a decent human being would be enough.

And then there are the people in the industry they have to deal with. Will they be okay negotiating with Fernando after this? This must tarnish his reputation as a businessman (). I couldn't even type this without laughing out loud, but you get what I mean.

But why hasn't that happened then? I think he'll quietly step down or be demoted, with no communication from the band. He will be able to live his life of luxury, but with a bit less bragging in public about it. Him just being out of the picture. That would be my guess.

I wonder if the sexual stuff was 'new'. Didn't the thing @Blackstar posted about the wrong filing in the Spring only mention the copyright stuff? So they were ready for the copyright stuff, but not the sexual harrassment?

They must have known this for quite some time, so they must have some plan by now about how to tackle it. They knew this was coming. I doubt there will be a public resignation. I did have the feeling that Fernando was less visible the last year or so, but that could be my imagination. He was in the Perhaps video of course. Pity.

Fernando will have to go from the public eye at least. I hear everyone saying of course his family won't drop him, but surely it must have some consequence? I would never drop my children, but if they've done something so wrong, there will have to be consequences. He obviously has problems. It's great that Axl is so loyal. Sadly, the same can't be said of Fernando. If he was loyal, he wouldn't do all that crap to endanger the whole 'family business' as he sees it. Even if he denies all the sexual harrassment or makes it into some consensual thing, fact remains he was at least way in over his head on the business side. He's not fit to manage GNR. Axl and Beta should have known that. I wonder how Vanessa feels about it all. I hope they at least are the happy little family she portrays in social media. She seems to steer clear of all the drama and seems to be doing well as Axl's assistant who's always around.

I see you forgot Grace McKagan

True, but that's how it always is. If I see any headlines like that, I try to read up more, because you know it's often not what it seems. But I'm sure most people don't bother and think: General asshole and misogynist Axl is at it again.

Why attack someone because he only has 5 posts and he says something you don't agree with? Bit silly. He's just giving his opinion, no need to be a bully about that. If you don't believe he's a lawyer, okay, no one cares. If you believe he's Fernando's lawyer? Fine too.

Well, it's not on us. She was picked out of front row because she wanted to show her pics, if I recall correctly. We can pretend her looks didn't matter, but I wasn't born yesterday and I don't think it benefits women in any way to put your head in the sand about that stuff happening. Her work is widely appreciated, so even if she wasn't hired for her looks, her looks were what got her backstage to show her work to start with. And that's exactly why it's wrong to pick out pretty girls to take backstage. It's demeaning and it leads to abuse.

As far as I know, Andrei Gilott was talked about, not you.

I was just thinking that. That was kind of an omen.

She had pneumonia. I think her tech guy replaced her the shows she couldn't do.

She wasn't held captive. She obviously thought that she would get more out of it by not making trouble then, with his promising coffee table books and such. He also told her he loved her for years, she might have believed it at some point. We will never know that, of course, but for some reason, she only decided to go to court when she was thrown out.

She should have left seven years ago. Shame on everyone that must have had at least an idea about this. Seems we were right about Fernando. Little useless incompetent show off who thinks he's the man, given far too much power.

I don't think it's a leap. Do you think it's mere coincidence he called it a monster? If he'd called it straight out Monsters, it wouldn't have made any sense at the time. Now everyone just thought he meant it was a monster of a song. It sounds like the thing Fernando would find funny. Right now, I'm going with the theory that Monsters was to be the hidden track, not one song with The General. Hopefully we'll still get it at some point. I'm still wondering about who leaked it all though. It must be someone very close to the band. As I believe it's Slash on it, I don't think it's something the hoarders have had for years. I think if they had, we would've heard of the Monsters title before this. No one had it. And it wasn't until Blackstar found the credits that we first heard of Monsters at all. And lo and behold, a few days later, everything leaks, right after the delay, on the day we should've gotten The General (and Monsters?) and a week later, they do The General live. I know people have been called morons on here for thinking the band was involved, but until further notice, I still believe it's someone associated with the band who leaked it. Just because I think no hoarders had it, and I don't see a random studio guy leaking it.

I heard someone said it on discord. Perhaps same person as on Reddit. No idea. Yes, odd with the merge. I really wonder how they make it into one song. I could see it as two parts, but one song seems odd.

I heard people theorize that Monsters Will be the R side to the Atlas single. I love The General, like Monsters too, but so far The General is my favourite.

To be honest, that happens quite regularly, at least where I live. Things you order get in back order, works at the house get delayed because of weather or other unforeseen circumstances. I would've been furious numerous times then in life just because of that. It's just annoying with GNR it's ALWAYS that way. The only thing they seem to do right is touring. Thank God for that. (at least for me. I always have a blast at the shows I go too.)

I don't think it's a simple delay. It never is with GNR. There are always WTF reasons for anything going wrong in GNR world. Duff just managed to get a vinyl out, right? It's always only wheb it's under the GNR name that something goes wrong. I'm not pissed or even very surprised, but I think it's beyond naive that this is just a delay like so many things are delayed in the music world. Meanwhile my daughter's laughing at me as Taylor Swift re-released another one of her albums, including five new songs from the vault, today. I was telling her earlier this week today we should listen to The General, and not Taylor Swift. Thank god she has idols who actually like releasing stuff. I wouldn't wish a band like GNR on anyone

Don't give them any ideas! They would be capable of doing that just to troll us. We're never getting the general.

I'm oldskool and everything I wanted to hear always came out on vinyl and cassette, and later on cd. I don't think 'vinyl only' is a treat to an oldskool diehard like me. I think it sucks.

I find it suspicious *only* five people say the list was around before 2019. I was glued to MYGNR when the leaks came out and I don't recall any of that: We had the title all along! (I might have forgotten, of course.) If Blackstar can't find any definite proof and if EstrangedTwat doesn't know about it, I'm not buying it and I think it's the mind playing games. Until proven otherwise.

Oh, sorry, I got that idea with the 56 pages of conditions that were mentioned a few pages or so ago It seems they are set on selling as little as possible. Only vinyl and only online from three webshops.

How is it possible no forum people work in a record store? They wouldn't even have to leak the thing, just confirm it's ready to be put on the shelves by Friday. Maybe take a pic of the record of both sides.